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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 20:36:52 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Ftgreeneg on Tue Mar 12 20:18:28 2019.

Legacy admissions outrage this white man!

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 20:38:01 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Ftgreeneg on Tue Mar 12 20:19:29 2019.

Worse than affirmative action.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 12 20:41:57 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 20:36:52 2019.

They are as bad as affirmative action admissions based on race.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Ftgreeneg on Tue Mar 12 20:42:14 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 20:36:52 2019.

Good I say if one is taken away the other should be also. The outrage should be same for both but for.most it isn't.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 12 20:43:17 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Ftgreeneg on Tue Mar 12 20:42:14 2019.

Yes. Both should be banned.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 12 20:46:19 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Ftgreeneg on Tue Mar 12 20:42:14 2019.

You do realize though that affirmative action as been around long enough that it also effects the kids of those that got in through affirmative action too.
It's not just the Democratic Elite rich people.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Charles G on Tue Mar 12 20:48:05 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Mar 12 20:20:39 2019.

I don't think Universities running athletic programs that are effectively minor leagues for professional sports leagues or training grounds for Olympic athletes and giving out educational scholarships to supply the athletes for those programs makes any sense at all.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Mar 12 20:50:26 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 12 20:41:57 2019.

Anything not based on academic merit is bad

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 12 20:51:24 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 20:38:01 2019.

Affirmative action is only bad if it disadvantages a poor white person relative to a poor minority person.

There deserves to be affirmative action in favor of kids who have grown up in a low income environment. They have to deal with adversity those in higher income environments don't face.

Of course, affirmative action shouldn't be so pronounced that it admits kids into colleges where have almost no chance of succeeding.



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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 12 20:52:22 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Mar 12 20:50:26 2019.

I disagree. A moderate level of affirmative action based on income alone is valuable.



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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 12 20:55:31 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 12 20:51:24 2019.

Except much of it is race/ethnicity based and that's just wrong



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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Easy on Tue Mar 12 21:10:18 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 12 20:55:31 2019.

I strongly support race-based affirmative action, but I do question whether admitting Nigerian students whose parents moved here in the 80's and 90's corrects the effects of slavery among African Americans.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Mar 12 21:12:47 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 15:15:31 2019.

IAWTP

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 12 21:25:18 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Easy on Tue Mar 12 21:10:18 2019.

The kid getting knocked out because of affirmative action had nothing to do with "slavery"

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 12 21:25:59 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 12 21:25:18 2019.

In tact his ancestors may have died fighting to abolish it.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Easy on Tue Mar 12 21:46:56 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 12 21:25:59 2019.

Those ancestors would be proud of him

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Mar 12 22:01:06 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Charles G on Tue Mar 12 20:48:05 2019.

Why?

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Ftgreeneg on Tue Mar 12 22:04:34 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 12 20:46:19 2019.

How so? If you're saying bc of those economically disadvantaged then ideally that's how it should work.

The fact is even with Affirmative Action statistically speaking blacks and Latinos with college degrees still struggle to find employment in their respective fields than whites with the same degrees from 'lesser' schools by a lot and at one point harder time than white without degrees also (don't know if the later is still the case however).

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Ftgreeneg on Tue Mar 12 22:07:05 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Charles G on Tue Mar 12 20:48:05 2019.

It's done bc these athletic programs bring in major $$$ for those schools. I do think however we need to admit those kids aren't amateur athletes at all however.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Mar 12 22:14:03 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Ftgreeneg on Tue Mar 12 22:07:05 2019.

I agree with you for the most part but they're not pros either.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 12 22:18:01 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 15:15:31 2019.

Soros is not mentioned on Fox, not even by Hannity. Left wing stereotype fail.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 12 22:24:47 2019, in response to Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 12:52:19 2019.

Not even related to affirmative action, which has to do with government. Fail yet again.

Bribery is bribery. Does it bother you that this might be liberal Hollyweirdos involved?

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 12 22:26:55 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Easy on Tue Mar 12 21:10:18 2019.

I strongly support race-based affirmative action

So you admit being racist, never mind for totalitarian government?

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 12 23:05:03 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Mar 12 22:18:01 2019.

Soros is Breitbart/Infowars territory...

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Mar 12 23:14:11 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Easy on Tue Mar 12 21:10:18 2019.

A Nigerian isn't an African American in the truest sense of that term?

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 12 23:35:08 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Mar 12 23:14:11 2019.

I believe the way it works is an African-American is any descendant of American black slaves. People from the Caribbean and Africa have their own categories, although to be PC, they even pretend that they are African American these days

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 23:51:44 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 12 23:35:08 2019.

Remember in 2007 when Barack Obama was “not black enough?”

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 13 00:00:23 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 23:51:44 2019.

Well he's certainly not African American!

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Mar 13 01:30:49 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 12 23:05:03 2019.

Breitbart and Infowars are not in the same category, although the latter tries to weasel into the former.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Mar 13 01:30:56 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 12 18:10:01 2019.

Yeah.
You would say that...yet overlooking the shit you folks hwve been doing since the educational system began.

NOTHING YOU CAN SAY will EVER JUSTIFY YEARS of systematic racism involving schools.
The very fact that YOU brought up affirmative action makes You a liar and a hypocrite.
You APPROVE OF THE UNFAIR educational standards levied upon the poorer people...and support the callousness of the rich.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Ftgreeneg on Wed Mar 13 01:50:54 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Mar 12 22:14:03 2019.

They should be, these college players are bringing these major sports programs billions of dollars coaches getting Multimillion dollar contracts, programs getting their huge sponsorships the only ones not getting paid are the actual cash cows.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by AlM on Wed Mar 13 03:34:19 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Mar 12 23:05:03 2019.

soros site:foxnews.com gets me 4,650 hits on Google.

Most of the stories are pretty mainstream but some of their commentators have gone all the way to the edge.



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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Mar 13 08:37:09 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Ftgreeneg on Wed Mar 13 01:50:54 2019.

I understand that part but they're receiving a degree at the end of their 4 years in exchange. Plus the vast majority of them will not go on to pro sports careers which in my opinion proves that they shouldn't be considered pros.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 13 12:05:49 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 13 00:00:23 2019.

It reminds me of the Olympics where some idiot reporter was talking to a Black athlete from United Kingdom asking her how it felt to be an African American competing in the Olympics. The woman answered her, "but I am British". The asshole reporter was so overtaken by political correctness that she had to use what she felt was a "politically correct" term to describe her.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Charles G on Wed Mar 13 12:41:26 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Ftgreeneg on Tue Mar 12 22:07:05 2019.

The programs bring in major $$$ for a small handful of schools. Most schools lose something between a little and a ton on their athletic programs -- but keep them in the hopes that they will someday become one of the small handful of schools that net a profit on the whole thing.

Do you think the USC Water Polo team giving out scholarships is really a net positive for the school?

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Mar 13 14:34:20 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Mar 13 12:05:49 2019.

Yes! I remember that!

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Ftgreeneg on Wed Mar 13 17:43:09 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Charles G on Wed Mar 13 12:41:26 2019.

Would think it's bringing in something or they think it will in the near future or they wouldn't spare the expense giving out scholarships.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 14 21:17:03 2019, in response to Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 12:52:19 2019.

If people assume that a minority going to college got there only because of affirmative action, then people should assume that any person with rich parents only got there through bribery and fraud. It's only fair.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Are dee em on Thu Mar 14 21:38:03 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 14 21:17:03 2019.

Is there anybody who gets in because they studied and got a legitimate high SAT. No quotas, no bribes, no connections?? Probably doesn’t exist.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Mar 14 22:35:07 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 14 21:17:03 2019.

I already assume most folk in the top colleges got in via bribery and fraud. Especially if they share a surname with the name of a building, stadium, or wing of a complex.

There is really no benefit to fancy name schools anyway. Most states have decent state schools (at least the blue states, provided students have enough brains to ignore the partisan rhetoric spewed by tenured ex-hippies). With the current outrageous costs, private colleges themselves have become the scam nowadays, textbook examples of parting fools from their money.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 14 22:53:44 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Mar 14 22:35:07 2019.

It depends on the private school. I agree about most of them, but the really top ones are useful because it's a place to groom connections.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 15 01:19:17 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Mar 14 22:35:07 2019.

I already assume most folk in the top colleges got in via bribery and fraud.

You would be wrong in your use of the word "most."





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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 15 01:47:23 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Thu Mar 14 22:35:07 2019.

Most states have decent state schools (at least the blue states)

Right; the "red states" have no colleges at all. Pfft.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Mar 15 02:16:34 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 15 01:47:23 2019.

I dunno, other than a few like Texas I thought the #1 subject in red state schools was foot ball.

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