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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Mar 15 01:19:03 2019 Check your favourite news sources; up to 27 dead for New Zealand at two Mosques, 5 students and 2 staff in Brazil. The Brazilian shooters used a revolver and bow+arrows before killing themselves. Interesting facts about the New Zealand ones: -70 page white nationalist manifesto was discovered. 3 dudes and one chick in custody. -The high victim count was at a mosque without armed opposition. -The other mosque had one armed patron who shot back. ABC13 source for that one. Both countries have the gun control laws that the left so desperately desires here, how could this happen?
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Posted by AlM* on Fri Mar 15 01:21:44 2019, in response to 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Mar 15 01:19:03 2019.* Both countries have the gun control laws that the left so desperately desires here, how could this happen? Moronic question of the week. What is the murder rate in NZ vs. the US? What is the gun murder rate in each?
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730* on Fri Mar 15 01:26:28 2019, in response to Re: 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 15 01:21:44 2019.* What is the murder rate from legal guns in the US vs illegal guns? Also an update: there were also explosives rigged to cars. WE need common sense bomb control!
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Posted by AlM* on Fri Mar 15 01:35:54 2019, in response to Re: 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Mar 15 01:26:28 2019.* You know quite well that almost all illegal guns in the US are a result of gaps in or failures of the regulatory process.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Fri Mar 15 01:42:55 2019, in response to 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Mar 15 01:19:03 2019.* 70 page white nationalist manifesto was discovered JFTR, some elements of the press already tried to play up "Trump supporter" when the guy in question hates Trump's policies passionately, and is himself a leftist "eco-fascist" who hates capitalism. He spews some BS about "a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose", just like Trump-hater (who pretended to be a supporter too) David Duke would spew.
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730* on Fri Mar 15 02:15:05 2019, in response to Re: 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 15 01:35:54 2019.* And more laws are going to solve this? The only law that I think would actually work is Singapore's: if you are caught with two or more illegal guns, you are classified as a gun trafficker and receive an automatic non-appeal-able death penalty. After a few years of giving the electric chair a decent amount of exercise, we'd have solved our gun problem.
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Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Fri Mar 15 07:06:22 2019, in response to Re: 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Mar 15 02:15:05 2019.* Only a perfect criminal justice system can mete out absolute punishment.
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Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Fri Mar 15 07:44:12 2019, in response to 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Mar 15 01:19:03 2019.* In the shooters' manifesto, they admire "Donald Trump, who is a symbol of renewed white identity, and common purpose."
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Posted by Dave* on Fri Mar 15 07:50:30 2019, in response to 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Mar 15 01:19:03 2019.* At least 49 dead now.
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Posted by ClearAspect* on Fri Mar 15 07:50:51 2019, in response to 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Mar 15 01:19:03 2019.* Absolutely tragic, it is time that ALL white supremacist organizations be correctly labeled as terrorist organizations. There is nothing right about such thinking and thought processes.
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Posted by ClearAspect* on Fri Mar 15 07:51:51 2019, in response to Re: 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 15 01:42:55 2019.* Where did you obtain this information, cause NONE of the articles so far said such.
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Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Fri Mar 15 07:56:39 2019, in response to Re: 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 15 01:42:55 2019.* In the shooters' manifesto, they admire "Donald Trump, who is a symbol of renewed white identity, and common purpose." Where did you read otherwise?
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Posted by Ftgreeneg* on Fri Mar 15 07:57:58 2019, in response to Re: 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Mar 15 07:50:51 2019.* IAWTP
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Posted by Stephen Bauman* on Fri Mar 15 08:07:26 2019, in response to 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Mar 15 01:19:03 2019.* Murder rate (murders per 100K population) USA: 5.35 Brazil: 29.53 NZ: 0.99 Firearms related death rate (deaths per 100K) USA: 11.96 Brazil: 21.9 NZ: 1.07 Firearms related homicide rate (gun homicides per 100K) USA: 4.62 Brazil: 20.7 NZ: 0.11 Guns ownership per 100 population USA: 120.5 Brazil: 8.6 NZ: 30
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Posted by Fred G* on Fri Mar 15 08:26:38 2019, in response to Re: 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 15 01:42:55 2019.* Link us up to that source
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE* on Fri Mar 15 09:02:39 2019, in response to Re: 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 15 01:21:44 2019.* The "AlM Canada Gun argument" again. No one gives a shit.
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE* on Fri Mar 15 09:04:52 2019, in response to Re: 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 15 07:06:22 2019.* Jussie is Guilty Long prison sentences for false teports of hate crimes.
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Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Fri Mar 15 09:15:19 2019, in response to Re: 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Mar 15 09:04:52 2019.* Absolutely. Long prison sentences for false reports of hate crimes. I agree completely.
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE* on Fri Mar 15 09:29:23 2019, in response to Re: 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by Ftgreeneg on Fri Mar 15 07:57:58 2019.* Of course you do.
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE* on Fri Mar 15 09:36:32 2019, in response to Re: 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 15 01:35:54 2019.* Right. The criminals bear no responsibility.
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Posted by bingbong* on Fri Mar 15 09:53:04 2019, in response to Re: 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Mar 15 09:04:52 2019.* That's not about these terrorism incidents. Who do you think you are, Luch?
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE* on Fri Mar 15 10:05:23 2019, in response to Re: 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 15 09:53:04 2019.* What you trying to say, bitch?
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Posted by chicagomotorman* on Fri Mar 15 10:42:12 2019, in response to 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Mar 15 01:19:03 2019.* Disgusting. I condemn the actions of this mad man.
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Posted by bingbong* on Fri Mar 15 11:00:31 2019, in response to Re: 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 15 01:42:55 2019.* WYF? You must be reading a different manifesto. A VERY different manifesto, Seriously. An eye exam may be in order.
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Posted by bingbong* on Fri Mar 15 11:02:42 2019, in response to Re: 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 15 01:42:55 2019.* Source or shut up. After retraction, naturally.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Fri Mar 15 20:39:49 2019, in response to Re: 2 Mass shootings - New Zealand mosques and Brazil school, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 15 01:42:55 2019.* “Conservatism is dead. Thank god. Now let us bury it and move on to something of worth.” “I mostly agree with Sir Oswald Mosley’s views and consider myself an Eco-fascist by nature.” “The nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People’s Republic of China.” All from Brenton Tarrant’s manifesto. So that kills any connection to the right and solidifies his connection to the left. (And it aligns with Red China’s policy against Uyghurs, does it not.)
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