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Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 12:52:19 2019

But...but...but... affirmative action!

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 13:13:01 2019, in response to Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 12:52:19 2019.

Stupid analogy.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 13:26:13 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 13:13:01 2019.

Why? Conservatives complain about "unfair" college admissions because of "affirmative action"; meanwhile, wealthy elites are buying college admissions for their unqualified kids.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 13:31:22 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 13:26:13 2019.

Because affirmative action is a matter of policy. This is a crime.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 13:40:43 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 13:31:22 2019.

Wanna bet some of the suspects in this case whined about "affirmative action" in college admissions?

In any case, my point is that here, the premise of affirmative action is completely defeated by wealthy elites bribing their kids into some of the top schools in America.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 14:17:06 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 13:40:43 2019.

No, it isn’t. It’s like justifying discount train fares for the poor by citing examples of fare evasion.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 15:00:08 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 14:17:06 2019.

Kid A, an underachieving child of wealthy parents, gets into School B because his parents paid to fix his ACT/SAT scores, or bribed some coach to falsely list them as an "athletic recruit".

Kid C, a brilliant minority inner-city child, aces the ACT/SAT on his own, or is the star player in the varsity, but is denied a place in School B because it has already been taken by Kid A, who shouldn't be there at all.

But conservatives whine about Kid C "unfairly" getting into School B (on his own merits) because of "affirmative action". That's just shameful.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 12 15:05:16 2019, in response to Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 12:52:19 2019.

When I first saw the subject line I thought it read, "Soros Nabbed..."

LOL!

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Mar 12 15:07:27 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 15:00:08 2019.

If Kid C is qualified without regard to minority or athletic status then I have a problem with the child being shut out. However, in most cases of Affirmative Action, Kid C has lesser scores.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Mar 12 15:07:49 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 12 15:05:16 2019.

Dog whistle!

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 15:11:36 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Mar 12 15:07:27 2019.

Can you post a credible link supporting your claim that "in most cases of Affirmative Action, Kid C has lesser scores"?


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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 15:14:57 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 15:11:36 2019.

The whole point of affirmative action is to place ethnicity before merit. If the applicant gets in because of merit, then that's not "affirmative action."

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 15:15:31 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 12 15:05:16 2019.

You've been watching too much Fox Propaganda.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 12 15:23:18 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 14:17:06 2019.

Excellent example.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 15:30:57 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 15:14:57 2019.

No, the whole point of affirmative action is to ensure that those with merit aren't refused entry because of their ethnicity or color.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 12 15:36:50 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 15:30:57 2019.

And then you have people that ARE refused entry because of their ethnicity or color because affirmative action said a less qualified person that was of a different race or ethnicity should get in first, simply because they are that race or ethnicity. How is that fair?

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 12 15:37:08 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 15:00:08 2019.

Would Kid C be the same one that took a clock radio apart and put parts into a pencil case?

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 15:37:57 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 12 15:36:50 2019.

Can you show me an example of that actually happening?

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Mar 12 15:38:07 2019, in response to Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 12:52:19 2019.

I did not need to bribe anyone when I attended Passaic County Community College - Paterson Campus a couple years ago. My sole reason for matriculating which means attending said institution of higher learning was simply to knock off the rust with respect to my Geodesic Surveying knowledge so I could prove to you people once and for all that I am the foremost land surveyor on this board bar none or bar some. I took the course so I could learn the recent advancements in technology and procedures in order to engage and defeat Fred G, a highly regarded land surveyor in his own right as well as a professional photographer of some note, in a competition. For reasons I am not at liberty to discuss, said competition never materialized.

Some of you may recall one morning, immediately after I worked the "Redeye" from Sea-Tac to Newark, I was in class goofing off because I was acing the weekly exams without even trying. I was turned around in my chair, chewing gum and discreetly blowing bubbles while talking to the student behind me about the Iowa State Cyclone Speed-Option attack out of the offset-I and how K-State will overcome it since it sees that offense in practice every single day. I was called out by the Associate Professor and the ensuing dialogue went along these lines:

Teacher (pointing directly at me in the fourth row): "Is there something you'd like to share with the rest of the class?"

Me: "No?"

Teacher: "Is that a question or answer?"

Me: "What?"

Teacher: "Is there a problem? Do we have a problem here?"

Me: "No."

Teacher: "Good. How about you turn around and either chew your gum quietly or spit it out."

Me: "I'm sorry and I apologize."

Teacher: "I am not asking for an apology. I just need you to respect the lecture."

Me: "OK"

I actually spit out the gum and out of pure spite stuck it to the underside of the desk that was attached to my chair. It was an admittedly foolish even childish thing for me to do, like something out of junior high school, but I was publicly humiliated and that was my only recourse... it was the only arrow left in my arsenal. By now, it should be readily apparent that in these situations I do not seem to have the sense to think things through.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 12 15:39:37 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 13:26:13 2019.

And who said that these people are conservatives. I'd be willing to bet that most of those who bought their kids into college are rich liberals with their own form of affirmative action.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 12 15:39:53 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 15:37:57 2019.

If someone is gained entry through affirmative action, obviously someone else is denied entry. And it not be based on merit, and instead, simply because they "aren't the right race".

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 12 15:40:26 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 12 15:39:37 2019.

JayZee is forgetting the Democratic Elite.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 15:43:12 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 12 15:39:37 2019.

In the indictment, every single parent named is a corporate CEO or Hollywood actor. I'm willing to bet there aren't more than a few liberals (if any at all) among the fifty suspects they arrested or are chasing down today.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 15:44:53 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 12 15:39:53 2019.

That's your opinion.

That's also not how affirmative action works.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 15:48:19 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 15:30:57 2019.

No, that's the point of anti-discrimination law.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 15:53:25 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 15:43:12 2019.

"If any at all?" You just said that there are Hollywood Actors in the list. Are you fucking kidding me?

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 12 17:38:44 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 15:53:25 2019.

Did you check each and every one on that list? What is their party affiations? By the way, how many were Jews?

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 12 17:41:18 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 15:30:57 2019.

LOL, that includes Tawana Brawley who got into Howard Law School even though no one ever "MANIPSIMATED" her or her family.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 12 17:43:34 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 12 15:40:26 2019.

No. Heys pretending to forget. He's ignoring.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 12 18:05:24 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 13:40:43 2019.

Justice for Jussie.
No free college in jail.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 12 18:10:01 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 15:44:53 2019.

Yes it is. Someone is knocked out, because someone is added based on skin color or race.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Mar 12 18:22:36 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 15:11:36 2019.

Then why did University of Michigan adopt bonus points for being a minority if they were going by a strict total point score that otherwise made it impossible to determine if applicant was a minority so impossible to discriminate?

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 12 18:28:15 2019, in response to Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 12:52:19 2019.

This has been going on for centuries. $$$ talks. Jay is totally in his element for this post! His victimology can shine!

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 18:31:43 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 12 18:28:15 2019.

So, you support bribery and cheating so wealthy, privileged, underachieving kids can take admission slots that should rightfully go to applicants who really did the work, minorities or otherwise?

Not surprised.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 12 18:36:12 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 18:31:43 2019.

WHERE did I say I supported it?

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 12 18:38:04 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 18:31:43 2019.

There you go with your cuntism.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 12 18:38:53 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 12 18:36:12 2019.

That's just him with his cunt arguments again.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 12 18:44:53 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 15:53:25 2019.

Actually, there only seem to be 2 actors/actresses whose names are getting mentioned.



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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 19:04:14 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 12 18:44:53 2019.

I haven't heard of Lori Loughlin in years, but I think Filliam H. Muffman are both liberal.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Charles G on Tue Mar 12 19:37:38 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 15:48:19 2019.

I'd be less bothered about Affirmative Action if it were based on economic background or the educational opportunities that the student had growing up.

Instead, affirmative action programs use race/ethnicity as a proxy for economic status rather than actually looking into the student's historical opportunity.

My children are African-American. My wife and I have been lucky enough to provide them with a very nice upper-middle class life and they have attended some of the best schools in the US and Europe. As my youngest gets set to apply to universities in the US, it seems very wrong that she could deny a spot for a less-economically advantaged African American student simply by (truthfully) checking a box on her application.


With respect to the original story, charge 'em all with whatever they can charge them with -- bribery, racketeering , mail fraud, whatever. It's just one more item that makes me wonder why on earth it makes sense for US Universities run scholarship athletic programs.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Mar 12 20:16:51 2019, in response to Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 12:52:19 2019.

Scores? Ok Abe Lincoln
It's more 2 score and a dozen minus 2


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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Ftgreeneg on Tue Mar 12 20:18:28 2019, in response to Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 12:52:19 2019.

Always found it interesting Affirmative Action garners so much vitrol legacy admissions outrage has no where near the outrage. Out of our last three president s two had the grades to barely qualify for a Community College and the other was the black man...

Affirmative Action also benefits women but race is always the first thing brought up. Let's see what the common lightening rod in this issue is🤔

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 12 20:18:56 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 18:31:43 2019.

Yes, the Democratic Elite for one, but you keep "forgetting" them.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Ftgreeneg on Tue Mar 12 20:19:29 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 12 13:31:22 2019.

What about Legacy admissions?

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Mar 12 20:20:39 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by Charles G on Tue Mar 12 19:37:38 2019.

Why does it make sense for athletic scholarships?

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Mar 12 20:26:07 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 13:40:43 2019.

Another Carnac the Magnificent moment.

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Easy on Tue Mar 12 20:28:35 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 12 20:18:56 2019.

Dog whistle?

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Mar 12 20:30:29 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 12 15:11:36 2019.

Can you post a credible link to what the accused whined about? Or that claim that a minority kid gets shit out of an institution become the 2 score a dozen minus 2 took their place?

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Mar 12 20:33:10 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Mar 12 15:36:50 2019.

Good one

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Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Mar 12 20:36:05 2019, in response to Re: Scores Nabbed In Huge College Admissions Scheme, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Mar 12 15:38:07 2019.

Somehow this reminds me of Dave Barry.

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