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Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'' |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Feb 15 13:54:25 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by AlM on Fri Feb 15 13:32:36 2019. Democrats are emphasizing electabilityWhen have I heard that argument before? |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 15 13:58:41 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 15 13:51:37 2019. I have no objection to people criticizing her. You obviously don't read my posts about her.I do object to people calling her un-American just because they don't agree with her. That's a Saudi style thing to do. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 15 13:59:21 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Feb 15 13:54:25 2019. Just because it didn't work in 2016 doesn't make it a bad thing to do. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 14:05:09 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by AlM on Fri Feb 15 13:58:41 2019. I agree. I also object to her being called a screwball. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 15 14:06:24 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by AlM on Fri Feb 15 13:32:36 2019. Lol!!! |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 15 14:08:01 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by AlM on Fri Feb 15 12:53:04 2019. You are starting to sound like bing bong |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 14:10:12 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 15 14:08:01 2019. No, he's not. WTF are you talking about? |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 15 14:21:46 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 14:05:09 2019. I agree. Although many of her ideas aren't completely thought through, but in many cases she is on the right track.For example, a large number of former miners went through an Obama era program to retrain as solar installers. Many went on to do as well, in many cases better to much better in the new career than the would have done in the mines, and at much LESSER RISK to their overall health.given that the government has been paying for black-lunghealthcare for a longtime, that saves the taxpayers money. Just an example of how the then-nascent (now virtually eliminated) green economy could help Americans in so many ways. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Feb 15 14:26:52 2019, in response to "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party", posted by Dave on Fri Feb 15 09:09:13 2019. Well, either she will go down in flames or she will be the next great Socialist. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 15 14:30:40 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 15 14:08:01 2019. Huh?I say Michael Moore's views aren't mainstream Democratic views. Do you agree or disagree? |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 15 14:31:47 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Mitch45 on Fri Feb 15 14:26:52 2019. Or most likely neither. She has a point of view, and there are many people who agree with her point of view, but they are far from a majority. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Feb 15 14:36:52 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by AlM on Fri Feb 15 14:31:47 2019. She gets a lot of press, though, and has an army of Twitter followers. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 15 14:38:50 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Mitch45 on Fri Feb 15 14:36:52 2019. And? |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Feb 15 14:39:19 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by AlM on Fri Feb 15 13:34:04 2019. The IRS can use a “reasonable estimate” of tips received by employees to calculate a restaurant’s share of FICA taxes, per the Supreme Court’s 2002 decision on US v. Fior D’Italia. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 15 14:44:35 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Dave on Fri Feb 15 14:39:19 2019. And how would mtk be certain that she did not use such a "reasonable estimate" when she filed her taxes? Isn't that what any local H&R Block would advise? |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Feb 15 15:10:43 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by AlM on Fri Feb 15 14:44:35 2019. Assuming she used HRB. |
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Posted by Ftgreeneg on Fri Feb 15 15:23:50 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Feb 15 11:32:44 2019. I did? Bc that's news to me... |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 15 15:37:08 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Dave on Fri Feb 15 15:10:43 2019. But also every other honest accountant in the city.I'm just not understanding this presumption of reckless tax filing. |
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Posted by Ftgreeneg on Fri Feb 15 15:47:43 2019, in response to "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party", posted by Dave on Fri Feb 15 09:09:13 2019. Many Dems thought the same about Trump... Though I do think her support of Amazon leaving NYC has dealt a blow to her. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 15:53:57 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Ftgreeneg on Fri Feb 15 15:47:43 2019. No, it hasn’t. Her supporters were against Amazon anyway. Those who favored Amazon don’t agree with her. |
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Posted by Ftgreeneg on Fri Feb 15 15:59:31 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 15:53:57 2019. It will her supporters will support her no matter what but like Trump she also needs mainstream democrats on her side and that it hurt. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 15 16:32:41 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 14:05:09 2019. AOC isn't stupid. She's a rookie and makes rookie mistakes. Of course this will make me a fanboy in some dimwit's eyes. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Feb 15 16:34:22 2019, in response to "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party", posted by Dave on Fri Feb 15 09:09:13 2019. NOT 25,000 JOBS, but 25,000 6-figure careers. What a bunch of dumb fucks the democrats are proving to be. If this is a small example of how the new crop of dumb-shit democrats will lead their party, this nation will be led by conservatives for the foreseeable future. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 15 16:34:55 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Mitch45 on Fri Feb 15 14:36:52 2019. Yeah so does Ann Coulter and that Pizzagate dude. Not really a major barometer but I do get what you're saying. She's the IT right now. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 15 16:37:14 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by AlM on Fri Feb 15 15:37:08 2019. It's a generalization that all restaurant help cheats on taxes by hiding tips. When businessmen like Trump do it it's "smart financial thinking" |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Feb 15 17:17:58 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 15 16:37:14 2019. The "art of the deal". |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 15 17:18:12 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Feb 15 16:34:22 2019. What was the bottom line financial gain for all those jobs, adding in for the infrastructure and services cost? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 15 17:28:18 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 15 14:21:46 2019. She's not only on the wrong track, she's not even on running track. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 15 17:30:01 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 15 16:32:41 2019. Lol, Yes a real bright bulb happy that a company with over thousands of jobs over $150,000 a year are not coming to New York City |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Feb 15 17:31:24 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 14:05:09 2019. Have you noticed that in nearly every media photo she has her mouth open and eyes wide like she's yelling or maybe being shrill? She's odes kinda talk like that though. Those photos can't help her perception among casual observers. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 15 17:31:32 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 15 16:34:55 2019. Ann Coulter is a congressperson with political power? |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Fri Feb 15 17:31:47 2019, in response to "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party", posted by Dave on Fri Feb 15 09:09:13 2019. She may be not be top brightest, but fact she gets Trumperina's pissed is good start, she may be more powerful than those Dumb deplorables. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 15 17:32:55 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Easy on Fri Feb 15 17:31:24 2019. She does talk like that though so it's just the photos of her like that. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Feb 15 17:33:55 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Feb 15 10:45:23 2019. Did Cuomo even accuse AOC of anything? He blamed the state Senate. I have a feeling that AOC had nothing to do with this - we blame her because the media flocks to her, but there were local politicians involved, and this was a state and local matter. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 15 17:36:03 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by 3-9 on Fri Feb 15 17:33:55 2019. I agree that AOC doesn’t deserve the blame. This is Michael Gianaris’ doing.And I thought I would enjoy a Democratic Senate. Well, you can’t win ’em all. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 15 17:40:00 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 15 17:30:01 2019. Yeah that's bad news. I still have questions tho, like what was the bottom line financial gain, adding in increased infrastructure and services. With that in mind would Amazon pay for it or would it end up with NYC paying all the salaries with increased expenses with Amazon there.And why did Amazon bolt so quickly? That's kind of odd for business negotiation to abruptly end like that. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 15 17:41:56 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Easy on Fri Feb 15 17:31:24 2019. Take enough photos of anyone and you'll get some unflattering ones. Also it depends on the media. FOX usually shows the unflattering photos. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 15 17:42:44 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 15 17:31:32 2019. I was speaking to the importance of a large Twitter following. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 15 17:48:29 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Mitch45 on Fri Feb 15 14:36:52 2019. How many of those Twitter "followers" are fake accounts? |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 15 17:54:24 2019, in response to "Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party", posted by Dave on Fri Feb 15 09:09:13 2019. If she were so powerful, Impeachment proceedings would have begun on Jan 4.Nancy isn't interested. Freedom Caucus was only 40 representatives, yet Ryan acted like a scared little mouse with them. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 15 17:59:33 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Mitch45 on Fri Feb 15 14:26:52 2019. I think handing Bezos $1.5 Billion is socialist. There was no guarntee of 25,ooo jobs paying on average $150K. It was just a "goal". Then they'll blame "stream-lined corporate structure", slowing economy, "synergies" to back out of it. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 15 18:01:54 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 15 17:59:33 2019. I had read that some of those jobs were people who would relocate to NY and not "25k jobs for NYers". |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 15 18:03:00 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Easy on Fri Feb 15 10:05:10 2019. It was just a few months ago that many here were ridiculing Luch for calling her the future of the Democratic Party. They thought that she was just a low level, insignificant congressperson. Turns out both were wrong. She's not just the future of the Party, she's the present.Yup. And I predicted excessive new restictions on air travel, housing, farming, and just about everything in her Green New Deal which she scrubbed from her website. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 15 18:05:54 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 15 18:01:54 2019. When a company sets up shop in a city, to get tax breaks, they usually have to guarantee some % of jobs to locals. But they have to send in some legacy people to show them how to get the work done. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 15 18:06:39 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Feb 15 16:34:22 2019. And you believed that claim. |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Feb 15 18:08:58 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 15 18:05:54 2019. Obviously many, but not all employees would be NYers. But that was just the start. Think of all the supporting jobs that would have been created that now won't happen. I'm skeptical of tax breaks, especially as large as this one, but didn't amazon offer to walk that back? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 15 18:09:58 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Easy on Fri Feb 15 10:05:10 2019. but I do like her passion.Oh, big LOL @ "passion" to describe a Latina female. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 15 18:11:16 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Easy on Fri Feb 15 18:08:58 2019. I suspect Amazon knew they couldn't keep their job and pay commitments, and needed an exit strategy. So they blamed a few local politicians. |
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Posted by Dan on Fri Feb 15 18:13:52 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 15 17:40:00 2019. 'And why did Amazon bolt so quickly? That's kind of odd for business negotiation to abruptly end like that.'They didn't want to end up in a location where they would be faced with daily protests and disruptions of their operation. Virginia welcomed them, New York harassed them. I wonder if the Staten Island distribution center will be the next to go? Workers there want to organize under the UFCW. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 15 18:15:33 2019, in response to Re: ''Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a wrecking ball inside the Democratic Party'', posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 15 18:11:16 2019. the hypocrisy is that they are still opening HQ in VIRGINIA where the Governor thinks KKK black face humor is funny.And if a Republican did that shit, Amazon would be forced by the media and politicians to reconsider VIRGINIA unless the Governor resigned. The hypocrisy of newthink is amazing. |
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