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Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 12:18:06 2019

https://www.economist.com/democracy-in-america/2019/02/11/amy-klobuchar-declares

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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Feb 11 12:19:52 2019, in response to Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 12:18:06 2019.

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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 11 12:31:12 2019, in response to Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 12:18:06 2019.

Of all of the Democrats in the race, she intrigues me the most. What concerns me is that with all of the names in the race, Harris/Booker/Klobuchar will end up splitting the vote and then Elizabeth Warren ends up winning the nomination because her vote does not get split between other candidates.

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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 11 13:00:31 2019, in response to Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 11 12:31:12 2019.

Harris is nipping at Warren with significantly more leftist economic views than her past would indicate. Warren can be also hurt because Democrats want electability more than ideological perfection (see Pocahontas and also the risk of being labeled a "democratic socialist").

Sherrod Brown, O'Rourke, and Biden are probably much more of a threat to pushing Klobuchar into single digits since they appeal to many of the same constituencies.






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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 11 13:20:40 2019, in response to Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by AlM on Mon Feb 11 13:00:31 2019.

Brown and O'Rourke are to the left of Klobuchar

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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 13:21:25 2019, in response to Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by AlM on Mon Feb 11 13:00:31 2019.

Regardless, “splitting the vote” is why we need ranked choice voting at all levels. If the then-Republican Party used it in 2016, the catastrophe might have been averted.

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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 11 13:23:11 2019, in response to Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 13:21:25 2019.

INB4 "What catastrophe?" 🙄

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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 11 13:51:20 2019, in response to Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 11 13:20:40 2019.

Let's go to people who actually run the numbers.

Trump Scores:

Brown 29.5
Klobuchar 31.5
O'Rourke 30.1

She's got a high Trump score for MN, whereas they are from more conservative states where higher Trump scores are expected.






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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 11 16:07:56 2019, in response to Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 11 12:31:12 2019.

Klobuchar may not be best as time will tell but I give her props for announcing during a blizzard. Total coolness.

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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 11 16:56:00 2019, in response to Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 11 16:07:56 2019.

People are already trying to smear her that she is difficult to work for, but of the Democrats running she is the only one who checks off certain boxes for me especially her work as County Attorney in Minnesota.

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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 11 17:50:27 2019, in response to Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 11 16:56:00 2019.

Yeah we like to think of people as congenial, but that doesn't set off a big red flag for me. Is she Commander Queeg or does she just run a tight ship?

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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by Joe V on Mon Feb 11 18:30:05 2019, in response to Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by mtk52983 on Mon Feb 11 12:31:12 2019.

I don't think it would split up that way.

Klobuchar and Sherrod Brown can relate very well to the midwesterners that Hillary blew away. Brown just won as big in Ohio and Trump did. They are competing against each other

Harris/Booker are the bi-coastal Blacks that could compete against each other. But they differ in abolishing/retaining private health insurance.

Warren will never rid herself of her native American silliness, and she has a divisive personality, though she is absolutely right about the financial industry abuses in 2008.

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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 18:42:44 2019, in response to Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 12:18:06 2019.

WHO?!?!

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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by Mtk52983 on Mon Feb 11 18:48:33 2019, in response to Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 18:42:44 2019.

Senator from Minnesota

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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 18:52:51 2019, in response to Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by AlM on Mon Feb 11 13:00:31 2019.

Donald Trump is just sitting back and grinning like the Cheshire Cat at his opposition. I may even vote for him this time around!

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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 18:54:09 2019, in response to Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by Fred G on Mon Feb 11 13:23:11 2019.

🤔🤔🤔???

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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 11 19:03:10 2019, in response to Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 18:52:51 2019.

#almthink

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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Feb 11 19:04:59 2019, in response to Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 12:18:06 2019.

This will all be got naught if Michell Obama decides to run. The Dems are in such a state of flux & confusion, she'd get the nomination handed to her on a silver platter. Primaries are a popularity contest & she'd win them hands down. Not because she is articulate with the issues or can hold her own on the world stage, but because she's liked.
Being Black & a woman is a big help too.

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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 11 19:06:54 2019, in response to Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Feb 11 19:04:59 2019.

Being Black & a woman is a big help too.

being a white male is an obstacle in the Democrat party unless you're young and appeal to the segment of society that hates white men and thrives on stories like Magateens, fake maga hate crime in Chicago, etc............


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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 11 19:18:15 2019, in response to Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Feb 11 19:04:59 2019.

if Michell Obama decides to run

Why on earth do you think she'd do something like that?



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Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race.

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 20:39:09 2019, in response to Re: Amy Klobuchar enters the race., posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Feb 11 19:04:59 2019.

Just like Barack!

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