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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Feb 10 23:03:17 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 10 20:58:27 2019.

No it didn't. It means someone who wants a global economy and perhaps, government.

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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 10 23:04:36 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Feb 10 23:03:17 2019.

Not just "perhaps".

And even the Greek Cynics thought that way.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 10 23:05:43 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Feb 10 23:03:17 2019.

Which is an accusation leveled against Jews.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Feb 10 23:34:30 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 10 23:05:43 2019.

It's leveled against Liberals and other groups as well. You've been reading too much Stormfront.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 10 23:35:10 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Feb 10 23:34:30 2019.

It started as an anti-Jewish accusation.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Feb 10 23:48:47 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 10 23:35:10 2019.

Even if that's 100% true, you implied Irwin of using anti-semitic dog whistles which you know he did not do that. That's just victim mentality.

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 10 23:50:17 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Feb 10 23:48:47 2019.

Yes, he did. He used them without knowing.

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Feb 10 23:52:24 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 10 23:50:17 2019.

Really? You're going with that?

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 00:10:00 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Feb 10 23:52:24 2019.

You believe that he knew that it was offensive?

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Re: OT Subchat Poll

Posted by WayneJay on Mon Feb 11 00:16:21 2019, in response to OT Subchat Poll, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 9 14:27:28 2019.

I'm American, but those choices are some bullshit.

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 00:18:51 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 00:10:00 2019.

But it's not offensive at all.

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Re: OT Subchat Poll

Posted by Express Rider on Mon Feb 11 00:25:00 2019, in response to Re: OT Subchat Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Feb 9 14:48:35 2019.

and a great album by Marc Ribot - sadly out of print for quite awhile.
cosmopolitan was plural in the album title.

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 00:45:45 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 00:18:51 2019.

To you maybe. It's offensive to me.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 00:52:25 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 00:45:45 2019.

I would be willing to bet that you're not really offended at the term "global citizen" 🙄

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 01:18:10 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 00:52:25 2019.

I am. It's why I was reluctant to respond. It's why I compared it to rootless cosmopolitans.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 01:32:40 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 01:18:10 2019.

I feel bad for you, a grown man offended by "mean ol' words"..

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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Feb 11 01:49:46 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 01:18:10 2019.

But people self-identify as such, which upsets conservatives who aren’t biased against Jews.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 07:54:07 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 01:32:40 2019.

Sticks and stones may break bones, but words can kill millions.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 09:12:59 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Mon Feb 11 01:49:46 2019.

That’s true, but it’s about the individual perception. When I saw his poll, that’s exactly why I found answering uncomfortable. YMMV.

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 11 09:14:17 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 07:54:07 2019.

Very well stated. Unfortunately, over his head.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 09:31:57 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 11 09:14:17 2019.

No, it's not over my head. Everybody Plays the victim these days.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 09:32:47 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 07:54:07 2019.

I've yet to see a word kill not even one person. And what gets me is that you know he didn't mean anything of the sort but you have to pretend that you're insulted just to argue.

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Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 11 10:03:19 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 09:31:57 2019.

And millions of people paid with their life for being the victim.



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Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 11 10:09:38 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 09:32:47 2019.

Only in the sense that the victims did not die directly from the words. But the words often accompanied their being killed and were used as a cause for killing them.

You must then be fine with Palestinians who shout "from the River to the Sea" because after all those are only words and don't imply a threat to anyone's well-being.




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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 10:18:37 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 11 10:03:19 2019.

That's life. That's mankind.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 10:20:06 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 11 10:09:38 2019.

They could yell whatever they want, that doesn't affect me. It still doesn't mean that Israel wouldn't blow them to Smithereens if they try any shit.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 10:40:32 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 10:18:37 2019.

No, it’s not.

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 10:42:44 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 10:18:37 2019.

The idea that humanity should be governed the same way as the natural world and only the strong survive is Nazi philosophy.

And no, I’m not saying you’re a Nazi.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 10:49:15 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 10:40:32 2019.

Mankind has been at war with each other since the beginning of time

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 10:51:08 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 10:42:44 2019.

But I know you aren't calling me a Nazi, the same way you know that Irwin was not using an anti-semitic dog whistle.

It makes no difference if the Nazis espoused that idea or not, it's still the natural way.

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 11:00:34 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 09:32:47 2019.

Hitler never pointed a gun at anyone’s head and pulled the trigger. His WORDS convinced people to follow him and his WORDS ordered the death of millions.

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 11:04:07 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 11:00:34 2019.

The actions of a dictator leading a country is different than calling someone a global citizen.

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 11 11:06:17 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 10:51:08 2019.

It makes no difference if the Nazis espoused that idea or not, it's still the natural way.

To the extent that you are correct, it (whatever we are referring to at this point, presumably language used to support violence) should be strongly discouraged.

Just because there will always be murders doesn't mean that we stop prosecuting murders.



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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Feb 11 12:06:15 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 10 14:08:36 2019.

In your opinion.




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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Feb 11 12:07:43 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Feb 10 17:52:04 2019.

Bronx, New York.

And in Morris Heights, the real Bronx. Not the bullshit Bronx like Riverdale or Pelham Parkway.

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 12:19:40 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 10:51:08 2019.

The natural way is the wrong way. Civilization is what separates us from nature.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 12:30:36 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 11:04:07 2019.

It starts off with dog whistles, then it gets worse.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 12:31:42 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Feb 11 12:07:43 2019.

Is that like the “Real America?”

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 16:33:11 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 12:30:36 2019.

You're reaching ..

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 16:36:57 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 12:19:40 2019.

We are not above Nature, like I've told you. And, the way it works, the natural way is always the right way. Mankind likes to deviate from that.

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 11 16:39:27 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 16:36:57 2019.

So you oppose vaccinations? You've never had any yourself since you reached age 18? You don't get your children vaccinated?

Vaccinations are definitely not natural. Nature's way is to let people get the disease and either die from it or get immunized naturally.





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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 11 17:28:47 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Feb 11 12:07:43 2019.

Rep Omar Minnesota

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 18:37:56 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 11 12:31:42 2019.

EVERYONE knows that Real America begins in Pennsylvania!!!

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 18:39:02 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Feb 11 12:07:43 2019.

So then you are a red, white, and blue American.

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 19:38:16 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by AlM on Mon Feb 11 16:39:27 2019.

I haven't had any vaccinations since I was 18. My kids got them. And yes I agree with your last statement

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by AlM on Mon Feb 11 19:45:51 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 19:38:16 2019.

So you broke with your principles to keep your kids safe.

Decent of you, but it does suggest that your principles have problems.



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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 12 10:45:49 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Feb 11 16:33:11 2019.

Hardly. Ford's antisemitic propaganda influenced the Nazis.

And the choice of "The International Jew" was not random. "Internationalist" has long been an anti-Jewish slur, as people accused Jews of not being tied to any nation (thanks to centuries of opposition to Jewish settlement anywhere).

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Feb 12 15:30:33 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 12 10:45:49 2019.

I am not arguing that point with you, I was just saying that the original poster used a term which had nothing to do with what you were talkin about. That's all I'm saying

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 12 15:55:25 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Feb 12 15:30:33 2019.

He inadvertently used a term that did have to do with that.

It’s like foreigners who listen to rap and use the term “my nigga” as a friendly greeting.

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Re: OTChat Poll

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Feb 12 15:57:58 2019, in response to Re: OTChat Poll, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Feb 12 15:55:25 2019.

It was the term, a global citizen is a global citizen! It doesn't mean Jewish!

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