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Re: Schumer Shutdown — Losing the “Independents”?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 16 11:23:29 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 11:13:05 2019.

They're like woodcocks to their own springes, to paraphrase Shakespeare.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 16 11:33:38 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 11:13:05 2019.

Nope.

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Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 11:37:46 2019, in response to Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 16 11:09:16 2019.

Except that you really know that's not true. You may not like the guy, but he's no fascist and I don't know him personally to say if he's a racist or not

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 11:39:50 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 16 11:14:53 2019.

That's racist!!!!!!!

See how that works?

The Lib who Cried Racist.

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Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 16 11:40:12 2019, in response to Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 11:37:46 2019.

You're willfully blind if you deny he's either a racist, or pretends to be one to win their votes.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 11:40:57 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 16 11:15:11 2019.

And other than talkin about when he was working with his father, no one has been able to give a clear answer on to how he is a racist. They talked about his border security concerns, and him wanting to stem the tide of illegal aliens, but nothing that shows him to be a bona fide racist. Unless, of course, I'm missing something.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 11:41:29 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 16 11:33:38 2019.

Yep

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 16 11:44:19 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 11:40:57 2019.

The Definitive List Of Trump's Racism.


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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 16 11:44:33 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 11:40:57 2019.

SMH

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Re: Trump Shutdown — Losing the “Independents”?

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 16 11:56:45 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown — Losing the “Independents”?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 16 10:20:36 2019.

Independents have long been viewed as swing votes.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 16 11:59:18 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 11:40:57 2019.

no one has been able to give a clear answer on to how he is a racist.

How about alleging that an American judge of Mexican descent can't be impartial in a civil suit filed against him?



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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 16 12:01:14 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 16 10:29:45 2019.

Here's Ann Coulter describing her influence over Trump

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Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall?

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 16 12:18:50 2019, in response to Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 11:37:46 2019.

Whenever someone on the left hurls such false accusations, it's projection.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 16 15:07:29 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 11:40:57 2019.

He's made numerous derogatory comments about blacks, and Jews (“those little guys I only want them counting my money”). Which is why I find those supporting trump here so confusing. He really hates some of you guys for no reason beyond your faith practice.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Jan 16 15:31:30 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 16 15:07:29 2019.

Your dead ex-husband had made numerous comments here that could be considered anti-Semetic and which I've got bookmarked. Also how does his cracking the skill of someone he disageed with, using a baseball bat, work with your support of that Gillette ad ? If he were still alive, you'd be defending his neanderthal behavior.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Wed Jan 16 15:33:23 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 16 15:07:29 2019.

Your dead ex-husband had made numerous comments here that could be considered anti-Semetic and which I've got bookmarked. Also how does his cracking the skull of someone he disageed with, using a baseball bat, work with your support of that Gillette ad ? If he were still alive, you'd be defending his neanderthal behavior.

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Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 15:54:25 2019, in response to Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 16 11:40:12 2019.

He is patriotic, or at least that's how he portrays himself.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 15:58:31 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 16 11:44:19 2019.

It won't let me see the article, it says I've used up my free viewing for the month already, whatever that supposed to mean. Anyway, you were going to show me a New York Times opinion piece, because for the last decade or so, it went from all the News That's fit to print, to People magazine

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 15:59:55 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 16 11:44:33 2019.

My case in point.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 16 16:02:44 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 15:58:31 2019.

Actually, everything in that linked article is factual.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 16 16:02:44 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 15:58:31 2019.

Actually, everything in that linked article is factual.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 16:03:38 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 16 11:59:18 2019.

Mexican is not a race , it's an ethnicity

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 16 16:06:33 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 16:03:38 2019.

Yes, Trump was showing his bias against an American jurist of Hispanic descent. And???

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 16 16:09:20 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 16 11:44:19 2019.

That's a good compilation. There's more than that though.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 16 16:12:56 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 15:58:31 2019.

Jay linked that through Google, which should lift the paywall. Next question has to be you claim you're a New Yorker (probably though we know your propensity to lie). Why don't you subscribe already? This is the paper of record.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 16:19:04 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 16 15:07:29 2019.

His grandkids and daughter are jewish!! And, isn't that a compliment? I want an Italian making my pizza, an Irishman for a bartender, and a Chinaman doing my math homework for me!

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 16:45:40 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 16 16:02:44 2019.

Like I said, I can't read it. But I'm sure ot's 100% factual!

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 16:46:22 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jan 16 16:06:33 2019.

Exactly. And???

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 16:53:27 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 16 16:12:56 2019.

Don't be stupid. And no thanks. I read the WSJ.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 16 17:41:48 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 16:19:04 2019.

How does anyone stand to be around you?

No, it's not a compliment. It’s a stereotype intended as a slur. However he rationalized his daughter's marriage is his business. He's still antisemetic.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 16 17:43:26 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 16:53:27 2019.

I,m it. You're being, though. Using a nonexistent paywall excuse to see the truth instead of the lies you consume daily.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jan 16 17:46:37 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 16 17:41:48 2019.

Now I definitely want to meet up with you and Bill this April.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 17:46:42 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 16 17:41:48 2019.

Did you ask him how he meant it? He is not.

People LOVE me! 😎

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jan 16 17:47:28 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 17:46:42 2019.

I like you.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 17:47:57 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 16 17:43:26 2019.

Cue the Twilight Zone music, the insanity is flowing!

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jan 16 17:51:52 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 17:47:57 2019.

I will when I get home.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 17:52:52 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Jan 16 17:47:28 2019.

Thanks! Likewise! If she met me IRL she would too.

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Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 16 23:00:23 2019, in response to Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 16 15:54:25 2019.

If he were a real patriot, he’d resign.

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Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 17 04:18:12 2019, in response to Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 16 23:00:23 2019.

But he is here, steering the country into prosperity.

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Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 08:27:52 2019, in response to Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 17 04:18:12 2019.

LOL!

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Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 17 08:41:38 2019, in response to Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 17 08:27:52 2019.

Get on board, you don't wanna miss out!

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Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall

Posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 17 08:50:44 2019, in response to Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 17 04:18:12 2019.

Oh? Where? The shutdowns gonna intensify the upcoming recession.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 17 10:08:01 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by bingbong on Wed Jan 16 17:43:26 2019.



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Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 17 10:13:26 2019, in response to Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall, posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 17 08:50:44 2019.

That's Pelosi and Schumer's doing.

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Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall

Posted by Fred G on Thu Jan 17 10:16:20 2019, in response to Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 17 10:13:26 2019.

LOL, nope. Trump owns it and it's said that he's cracking apart behind the scenes. "We're getting clobbered" he says.

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Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 17 10:20:25 2019, in response to Re: Trump Shutdown - Losing the Independents, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jan 17 10:08:01 2019.

There it is!

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Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall

Posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 17 10:31:39 2019, in response to Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall, posted by Fred G on Thu Jan 17 10:16:20 2019.

Saw that report too....maybe another week before he caves. I'm honestly surprised he hasn't yet, given two terror attacks dominating the news he could have used the opportunity to tweak Mcconnell into passing the House bills, and sign them while covering in a west wing closet. But it would have reopened the government with minimum fanfare. That doesn't matter. Paychecks matter, and this shutdown is harming everyone.

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Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 17 10:35:13 2019, in response to Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall, posted by Fred G on Thu Jan 17 10:16:20 2019.

Do you realize that just because he said it just to talk shit in the beginning, does it mean it's true?

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Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 17 10:35:53 2019, in response to Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall, posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 17 10:31:39 2019.

It's not hurting me TBH.

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Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall

Posted by Fred G on Thu Jan 17 10:39:58 2019, in response to Re: 56% say its Trump's Shutdown 36% say Democrats 62% oppose shutdown for wall, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 17 10:35:13 2019.

You really think that I'm gonna believe you every time one of his statements goes south that he was just "talking shit?" As you keep reminding us, he's our President; everything he says is an official statement.

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