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Re: Facts?

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 11:56:55 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 14 11:48:39 2018.

Lol. Can't I extend compliments? Give credit where credit is due?

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Re: Facts

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 14 12:02:51 2018, in response to Re: Facts, posted by Train Dude on Fri Dec 14 11:17:17 2018.

A Google search using that exact input returned no stories about John Kerry admitting Obama knew the return of Iran's money under the JCPOA would result in its use to fund terrorism. I checked in the "All" column as well as the "News" tab.

Perhaps you can furnish a link to the original CNN story? There doesn't appear to be such an item in their archives.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 12:03:06 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 14 09:21:07 2018.

Really? Last pollI saw, a day or so ago, had trump at 38%. (Rasmussen excluded.)

I can see a Raz-poll showing him that high. But that's about it. Even 43 is still below fiftyone.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 12:07:52 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Dec 14 09:54:21 2018.

He had no "reputation" to protect. He was a failed businessman (SIX bankruptcies?) and a burned out TV personality. I don't even think the wrestling people wanted to hear about him anymore.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 14 12:12:05 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 11:56:55 2018.

Sure, you can, I’m just saying it’s a very weak compliment.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 12:15:07 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 12:07:52 2018.

Damn you really hate professional wrestling.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by WayneJay on Fri Dec 14 12:15:07 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 11:56:55 2018.

I think his point is that cordial behavior is totally an expectation, and normally (but one never knows with Trump)) there would be no need to commend anyone on doing such.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 12:16:41 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by WayneJay on Fri Dec 14 12:15:07 2018.

I will copy and paste my response to Spider pig to you as well. "Can't I extend compliments? Give credit where credit is due?"


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Re: Facts?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 12:17:23 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by WayneJay on Fri Dec 14 11:41:16 2018.

HRC is a hypocrite.

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Re: Facts

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 12:18:19 2018, in response to Re: Facts, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 14 11:51:07 2018.

OK, I appreciate the compliment. It came out of left field.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Dec 14 12:27:17 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 12:07:52 2018.

Nevertheless, he still perceived himself as a "brand" and acted accordingly. Nobody ever said his perceptions were correct. Just explaining why Trump would act the way he did and it not be related to trying to win the Presidency. I still would like to see the Democrats come out with a better candidate in 2020 than have announced so far (Sen. Klobuchar of Minnesota is intriguing) or I will find myself voting for a third party in 2020.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:00:49 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 12:15:07 2018.

Not exactly. I think it's dumb. It's fake. It's stupid. It's vapid. And it appears to shorten the lifespan of its participants, so doing it is unhealthy.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 13:04:02 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:00:49 2018.

Thank you for finally admitting it.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:04:09 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Dec 14 12:27:17 2018.

Which is cowardly. If you don't like trump, take an actual stand and vote for a candidate that actually has a shot at defeating him. Like it or not, that's the Democratic Party candidate most likely.

It's the best way to stop this. And we know it needs to be.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:06:01 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 13:04:02 2018.

Never denied it. I disagree with your oversimplifying my opinion as hate. I do not hate it. Closer to indifferent is better.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Dec 14 13:06:43 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:04:09 2018.

If they put up someone like Warren or Sanders then they have not done anything to deserve my vote and I do not believe we will be better off with either of them as President.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:07:33 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Dec 14 13:06:43 2018.

Oh yes we will. For certain.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Dec 14 13:07:59 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Dec 14 08:32:39 2018.

If Trump lost to Hillary, I have no doubt that he never would have conceded. He would have screamed like a little child who didn't get what he wanted for Christmas. He would have blamed Hillary for busing in Illegals to flood the polls for their votes. His whining would have gone on and on for years. Him being greatious & taking his loss like a man is just not in his DNA. All IMO of course.
But thats for another thread.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:10:09 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Dec 14 13:07:59 2018.

You're probably correct. Especially as he, at the time, said as much.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:11:30 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 14 11:33:57 2018.

Yet he did. Remember it well.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 13:12:11 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:06:01 2018.

It's because of pro wrestling I will be in New York next April.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 13:12:44 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:11:30 2018.

Did you vote for Nixon?

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Re: Facts

Posted by Dave on Fri Dec 14 13:14:27 2018, in response to Re: Facts, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 14 12:02:51 2018.


First story on a Google search

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Re: Facts?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:17:15 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by WayneJay on Fri Dec 14 11:53:42 2018.

Looks like he's gotten fatter over the past year as well.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:17:53 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 13:12:11 2018.

There's lots of reasons to come to NYC.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:19:35 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 13:12:44 2018.

Wouldn't have if I was old enough to at the time.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 14 13:25:20 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 11:23:15 2018.

Trump is fat

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Re: Facts?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:25:35 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 14 11:11:34 2018.

Nixon had a lot of really bad people around him. Yet he did some good things, like set up the EPA. His treatment of Vietnam dissenters left a lot to be desired. His use of the government agencies, particularily the IRS against any perceived enemy is just as criminal as the campaign related crimes. Watergate wasn't his only corruption.

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Re: Facts

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 14 13:27:05 2018, in response to Re: Facts, posted by Dave on Fri Dec 14 13:14:27 2018.

Yes, but that wasn't quite what TD claimed. He said that Obama knew the money would be used to fund terrorism. Kerry only alludes to the possibility that some of the money could end up in the hands of terrorists. Kerry made no "admission" that Obama knew otherwise.

TD seems to think that Obama knew it would be in the hands of the terrorists as an established fact, which is untrue.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 14 13:27:56 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 12:03:06 2018.

Rasmussen says 49. RCP averages several, including Ras. Maybe with Ras removed it would be like 38. Anyway if you drill down, strong support is about 20

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Re: Facts?

Posted by WayneJay on Fri Dec 14 13:34:14 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 12:17:23 2018.

That may well be, but it's not the point.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:35:47 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 14 13:25:20 2018.

I think he’s fatter than that.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:37:45 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 14 13:27:56 2018.

Well yeah, that's the actual number of people that consider themselves "conservatives" in the nation. It's what I call the noisy minority.

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Re: Facts

Posted by Dave on Fri Dec 14 13:37:50 2018, in response to Re: Facts, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 14 13:27:05 2018.

Kerry was SecState. It's hard to imagine that he knew and BO did not.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:39:26 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 11:23:15 2018.

Then you haven't looked at trump lately.

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Re: Facts

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 14 13:40:06 2018, in response to Facts, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 14 08:19:13 2018.

IAWTP

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Re: Facts?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 13:46:46 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:17:53 2018.

Sure there is. I have never been to the Tenement Museum. I plan on also visiting on my visit. And of course riding the subways.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 14 13:46:46 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:07:33 2018.

I agree with you, but others don’t and the goal isn’t ideological purity, it’s winning. I want to win so much that I’ll be sick of winning.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 14 13:47:23 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:00:49 2018.

Football does the same thing.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 13:47:30 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:19:35 2018.

Oh, I'm sorry.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 13:47:49 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by Fred G on Fri Dec 14 13:25:20 2018.

lol

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Re: Facts?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 13:48:49 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by WayneJay on Fri Dec 14 13:34:14 2018.

OK, what's the point?

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Re: Facts?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 13:49:36 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by bingbong on Fri Dec 14 13:39:26 2018.

Yes I have.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by jimmymc25 on Fri Dec 14 13:49:53 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Dec 14 13:07:59 2018.

Wonder what kind of show we'll see if he loses in 2020.

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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 13:50:08 2018, in response to Re: Facts, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Fri Dec 14 13:40:06 2018.

Of course you do.

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Re: Facts

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Dec 14 13:50:18 2018, in response to Re: Facts, posted by Dave on Fri Dec 14 13:14:27 2018.

My God are you a dumb fuck.

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Re: Facts

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Dec 14 13:50:50 2018, in response to Re: Facts, posted by Dave on Fri Dec 14 13:37:50 2018.

But Kerry didn't "know" that Iran's money would be used for terrorism. He only remarked that it could be.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 14 13:50:56 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 13:46:46 2018.

I’ve never been to the tenement museum either. But I have been everywhere in the public lines of the subway. I’ve also gotten on or off at every terminal except Woodlawn and Dyre. I am not sure about Bay Ridge-95th.

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Re: Facts

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 13:50:57 2018, in response to Re: Facts, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Dec 14 13:50:18 2018.

No he is not.

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Re: Facts?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 14 13:53:49 2018, in response to Re: Facts?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 14 13:50:56 2018.

In 1997, I rode every New York subway line, and walked around most of the terminals.

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