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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 22 09:32:54 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 09:24:59 2018.

The only time I hear you guys consider IUPG is when somebody like Kavanaugh is under suspicion. Otherwise it's guilty if arrested.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Oct 22 09:50:49 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 22 09:32:54 2018.

+38

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Oct 22 09:54:45 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 22 04:30:54 2018.

PWNED

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Oct 22 09:56:48 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 22 05:38:31 2018.

The thing that sucks about being a railfan is that particular hobby tends to attract more than it’s share of “special” folks 🙄

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 22 10:40:52 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 09:24:59 2018.

No, I actually understand principles like “presumption of innocence” and “free speech” the way they actually work and not in the convenient, fantastical way you do.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 22 10:43:53 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 22 09:32:54 2018.

Presumption of innocence only applies at trial though.

If it applied at arraignment, there would be no bail and no one would ever be remanded because how can you jail an innocent person?

Because Kegvanaugh was never put on trial, the presumption of innocence is irrelevant. I can draw whatever conclusions I want. Just like I can believe George Zimmerman is guilty of murder while simultaneously agreeing with the jury verdict in his trial.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Oct 22 10:45:13 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 22 10:40:52 2018.

It's too bad that your liberal comoradden don't seem to understand the concept. They pronounced Justice Kavanaugh guilty without evidence and then justified their comments with the ridiculous excuse that it was just a job interview.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 22 10:50:17 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 22 10:40:52 2018.

I actually understand principles like “presumption of innocence” and “free speech” the way they actually work and not in the convenient, fantastical way you do

LOL, more gobbledegook. If what you said about yourself were true, your posts would resemble mine.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 22 10:51:23 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 22 10:43:53 2018.

Complete rubbish. Arrest is not the same as conviction.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 10:52:22 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 22 10:43:53 2018.

These are concepts way to complicated for certain people here (and I don't mean Fred).



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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 10:52:32 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 22 10:43:53 2018.

These are concepts way to complicated for certain people here (and I don't mean Fred).



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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 10:53:13 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 10:52:32 2018.

Odd. I reposted because it told me "Error" the first time I clicked Post.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 22 10:53:18 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 22 10:50:17 2018.

If what you said about yourself were true, your posts would resemble mine.



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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 22 10:55:58 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 22 10:43:53 2018.

[fine] point taken.

My point isn't that sophisticated but more a pedestrian guilty or innocent assumption based on whom is being accused.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 22 10:57:40 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Oct 22 10:45:13 2018.

He doesn't understand the concept either. Re-read what he wrote. He thinks that presumption of guilt is OK at arrest as if the person were tried already (it isn't; saying it is makes that a justification for internment), never mind being questioned for a Senate confirmation.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 11:12:23 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 22 10:43:53 2018.

Nonsense.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 11:13:27 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 10:52:22 2018.

Complete nonsense. I totally understand trials vs not trials. Stop the leftist talking point nonsense. We know what is a trial and what is not.
However, in this country, there is still a presumption of innocence and being treated fairly.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 11:13:43 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 10:53:13 2018.

That has been happening all morning to me too.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 11:14:12 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 22 10:55:58 2018.

But that is exactly what the left is doing.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 11:15:22 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 22 10:40:52 2018.

Nonsense. You don't see the leftists like JayZee, Bingbong, and other hard core leftists doing it? You don't respond to them like this when they do it.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 11:19:38 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 11:12:23 2018.

Do you have a citation for that, counselor?


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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 11:22:34 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 11:13:27 2018.

There is most definitely NOT a presumption of innocence in selecting people for jobs.

Proof: Hillary Clinton and "Lock her up." Or even just "Benghazi."






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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 11:26:11 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 11:15:22 2018.

I agree that I see JayZ sometimes tend to presume some classes of possible miscreants are likely to be guilty while for others he emphasizes the presumption of innocence. But he does it in cases where criminal investigations are likely to occur, like when a cop kills an unarmed black kid. It doesn't mean he is being fair, but it's not analogous to Kavanaugh.







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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Oct 22 11:38:50 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 11:22:34 2018.

Do you remember "Hillary for Prison"?

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 22 11:46:58 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 11:22:34 2018.

And there is not a presumption of innocence when investigating a crime EXCEPT at trial.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 22 11:50:04 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Oct 22 10:45:13 2018.

There was plenty of evidence that Kegvanaugh was guilty. Not enough to restrict his liberties, but enough to not confirm him.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 22 11:50:50 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 22 10:57:40 2018.

The failure to confirm a person for a federal judgeship does not rise to the level of something where the Sixth Amendment would apply.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 22 11:55:36 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 22 10:51:23 2018.

Except when the charges are sex offenses, and the accused is not a straight, white conservative.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 12:28:05 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 11:22:34 2018.

"people at jobs". LOL, yes, the leftist talking point you have been endlessly pushing. LMAO.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 12:28:41 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 22 11:55:36 2018.

LOL!!!!

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 12:30:11 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 11:26:11 2018.

Don't be so fast. He would have been on the total opposite side of the fence if all the situations that occurred were reversed.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 22 12:30:45 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 22 09:32:54 2018.

Exactly.

Another exception are mSs shooters, given they are predominantly white males.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 12:32:52 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 12:28:05 2018.

OK, you've made your position clear.

Presumption of innocence does not apply to Hillary Clinton when she is asking to be elected President, but it does apply to Brett Kanavaugh when he is asking to be appointed Justice of the Supreme Court.



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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 22 12:34:44 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 12:32:52 2018.

Sec Clinton was thrououghly investigates. It's a known fact Kavanaugh was NOT.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Oct 22 12:39:38 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Oct 22 11:55:36 2018.

You are a racist little shit.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Oct 22 12:45:24 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 22 00:20:11 2018.

The meat curtains

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Oct 22 13:14:47 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 12:32:52 2018.

Exactly. Any other questions?

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 22 13:17:17 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 11:14:12 2018.

The left always accuses their opposition of doing what the left itself is doing, especially when said opposition is not doing it.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Mon Oct 22 13:17:25 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by bingbong on Mon Oct 22 12:34:44 2018.

WABB

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 22 13:20:15 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 11:13:27 2018.

I totally understand trials vs not trials

But they do not. The way they talk about it, they're all about internment.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 22 13:21:45 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 22 04:52:07 2018.

Wonder why they never made a "Revenge Of The Jocks" movie?

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 22 13:23:54 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 22 04:30:54 2018.

That's lovely. So she's more exposed to diseases then. Nothing to be proud of.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 22 13:25:42 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Oct 21 15:19:43 2018.

Get some self-respect. There are some actual human women out there.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 22 13:53:28 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Oct 22 09:56:48 2018.

Yep!

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Oct 22 13:55:35 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Oct 22 12:45:24 2018.

Extra rare and bloody!

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 22 14:12:13 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Oct 22 09:56:48 2018.

At this point, I'd rather the company of railfans than politicians.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 16:12:08 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 12:32:52 2018.

What did I say about Hillary?

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 16:14:06 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 16:12:08 2018.

You don't accept the "innocent until proven guilty" theme for Hillary's run for president, do you?


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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 16:25:02 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 16:14:06 2018.

?????

Show me a post where I said something like that.

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Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players

Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 22 16:45:00 2018, in response to Re: Amy Schumer: No Super Bowl ad to support kneeling NFL players, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 22 16:25:02 2018.

I was asking a question.

You could answer, "Yes I do accept it."

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