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U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by Dave on Mon Jul 30 23:06:30 2018


Constructing new missiles at a factory that produced the country’s first intercontinental ballistic missiles capable of reaching the United States


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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 31 04:18:51 2018, in response to U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by Dave on Mon Jul 30 23:06:30 2018.

So much for that Nobel prize

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 31 07:36:34 2018, in response to U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by Dave on Mon Jul 30 23:06:30 2018.

Does this mean people who bought those special Trump/Kim coins are eligible for a refund?

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 31 07:41:55 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 31 07:36:34 2018.

I think those things will shoot up in value

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jul 31 08:33:49 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 31 07:41:55 2018.

That's what I was just going to say!

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Jul 31 09:21:42 2018, in response to U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by Dave on Mon Jul 30 23:06:30 2018.

I have a question. Are these the same spy agencies who assured Bush 43 that Sadaam Hussein had stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons? The same agencies that convinced Bush 43 to go to war in Iraq? The same 16 intelligence agencies that the left called liars my so many years ago? Just wondering.



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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by WayneJay on Tue Jul 31 09:23:26 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jul 31 08:33:49 2018.

Right! I was thinking the hoarding may start at any minute now.

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 31 09:36:25 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Jul 31 09:21:42 2018.

These are the same agencies that told W that "Bin Laden determined to attack in the United States."

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 31 10:00:41 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Jul 31 09:21:42 2018.

Did the agencies assure 43 that there were weapons or did Dick Cheney assure 43?

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 10:08:45 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 31 09:36:25 2018.

Not to mention that the assertion about enriched uranium was a lot weaker.

Link from 2003 from before this all became a politicized attack on the intelligence agencies.


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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 10:10:04 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 31 10:00:41 2018.

The agencies said there was some evidence. It wasn't exactly an ironclad assurance.


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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 31 10:13:09 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 10:10:04 2018.

Just like there is some evidence of Russian collusion but there is no ironclad assurance. If no further evidence is found, I'll be satisfied that there was no collusion.*

*And I'd be more satisfied that there was no collusion, because I would rather my president not be a traitor.

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 31 10:27:24 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 31 10:13:09 2018.

Collusion isn't a specific criminal offense, but criminal conspiracy is. We'll see what Mueller eventually brings before a jury.

That said, I'm with you. I'd just as soon not have a President--even Donald J. Trump--who is a known traitor to the American people. Our republic would absolutely convulse, should that ever be borne out.

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 10:38:24 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 31 10:27:24 2018.

Collusion can be one of several criminal offenses of different degrees of severity.

- Donald Jr. probably really did say to the Russians "Hey it would be great if you could get dirt on the Clinton campaign." That is solicitation of campaign assistance of value from a foreign source. That is illegal, but not sufficient cause to remove Sr. from office.

- Jr. could have said "Hey, if you get dirt on the Clintons and my Dad gets elected, he'll reduce sanctions." That's called soliciting a bribe. If that happened, Jr. deserves jail. If Sr. can be shown to have approved it, Sr. deserves removal from office and jail.

I have no reason to believe the latter occurred - this is just a hypothetical illustration of how collusion could be a very concrete and serious criminal offense.



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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 31 10:41:15 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 31 10:27:24 2018.

Not to mention that in the event it turns out that Trump is a traitor, Republicans will just equivocate for their leader instead of standing up for America.

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jul 31 10:49:16 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 10:38:24 2018.

Yes, and those are both examples of people acting together to plan or do something illegal. Collusion is an element of these, but isn't specifically listed as a crime by name (e.g. "collusion in the first degree", etc.) in federal law. There's enough smoke, however, emanating from Trump's White House, that Mueller's team will eventually discover the dumpster fire that almost certainly has to be burning in the Oval Office.

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 31 10:52:46 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 31 10:41:15 2018.

Exactly, demagogue over democracy. They want a strongman.

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 31 11:11:09 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Jul 31 09:21:42 2018.

Funny how they become credible when the left wants it to be so. Of course, they might be right, but we all know what happened to the boy who cried "Wolf".

We ought to do a Robert Mueller anthrax investigation redux. Seriously.

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 11:37:08 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 31 11:11:09 2018.

"Credible" depends on what you do with it.

"Reports indicate Iraq is enriching uranium" or "Reports indicate North Korea is developing new missiles" both deserve to be taken very seriously.

Neither is of the level of certainty where you just go and invade.




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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 31 12:24:36 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 11:37:08 2018.

Ologism doesn't involve nuance. Either God said it in the Holy Book or It didn't.

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 31 13:51:15 2018, in response to U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by Dave on Mon Jul 30 23:06:30 2018.

I'm sure this makes the left very happy. If they actually fired one at the US and caused some damage, they'd be having orgasms.

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by Allan on Tue Jul 31 13:55:32 2018, in response to U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by Dave on Mon Jul 30 23:06:30 2018.

Of course, the Dolt won't admit that he made an error in trusting Kim.

He'll just blame the Democrats - who had nothing to do with his visit and meeting.

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 14:09:19 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 31 13:51:15 2018.

You should take your disgusting opinions and shove them where the sun doesn't shine.



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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 31 14:18:49 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 31 13:51:15 2018.

That's stupid. Really stupid.

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 14:26:51 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 31 14:18:49 2018.

The right wing is expressing disgusting opinions to divert attention from the way their fearless leader is behaving. It's "Well you're doing it too" behavior.


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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 31 14:30:41 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 14:09:19 2018.

Right back at ya, slick.

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new mistles

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 31 14:31:31 2018, in response to U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by Dave on Mon Jul 30 23:06:30 2018.

But what are they putting on the missiles?

They fire one over Japan and there's going to be a problem.

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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 31 14:32:23 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 31 13:51:15 2018.

They can't figure out whether they want Trump to be a dove or a hawk when it comes to the hermit kingdom.

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missives

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 31 14:34:46 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by Allan on Tue Jul 31 13:55:32 2018.

Who said he trusted Kim? And when has he "blamed the Democrats" in anything having to do with this??

You sure are great at those red herrings.

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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 14:35:52 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 31 14:30:41 2018.

I've never accused my political opponents of wanting the United States to suffer terrible injury.




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Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 31 14:38:23 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 14:26:51 2018.

It's ridiculous. They hold all the cards and still cry.

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Sick of AIM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles)

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 31 14:40:39 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 14:26:51 2018.

I am not right wing. I've explained this so often that even a poltroon like you can understand me.

I will say this again so that knuckle-draggers like you and your ilk can perhaps hear me.

I am not beholden to any party or to any ideology. I vote my conscience. I hold both left wing (pro Roe v. Wade) and right wing (smaller government) views simultaneously. I will support anyone I feel is doing their best for the country. I don't care if that person is a man, a woman, a hybrid thereof, gay, straight, black, white, Republican, Democrat, Whig, Federalist or Know-Nothing.

But there are two things I detest - (1) arrogance and (2) hypocrisy.

And right now, I feel that the far-left wing of the Democratic party, which unfortunately is the ascendant wing, have both attributes in spades.

I do not have to bash Donald Trump to prove myself to you or anyone else. But I will bash the radical left as often as I feel like it, and it is my opinion that politically speaking, the radical left WANTS North Korea to start building missiles again and be a threat to the US because that would hurt Trump, rather than see Trump succeed by any measure.

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Re: Sick of AIM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles)

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 31 14:42:21 2018, in response to Sick of AIM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles), posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 31 14:40:39 2018.

Just admit you said something stupid and move along. Now you've doubled down.

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Re: Sick of AIM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles)

Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 14:49:06 2018, in response to Sick of AIM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles), posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 31 14:40:39 2018.

You didn't say the "radical left." You said "the left."

If you're talking about a handful of crazies, that's different. But that's not what you said, and what you said is a very right wing opinion. Easily half the Democratic Party can be described as leftists, so we're talking a quarter of the country that you maligned by accident.










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Re: Sick of AIM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 31 14:50:19 2018, in response to Re: Sick of AIM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles), posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 14:49:06 2018.

handful of crazies

lo@lm!

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Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles)

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 31 14:50:54 2018, in response to Sick of AIM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles), posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jul 31 14:40:39 2018.

I am not right wing

You sure convinced me of that.

And I suspect that you don't know what "right wing" would be in a US context, instead believing the lying international socialists when they claim that national socialists and fascists are "right wing" when they are also left wing.

I hold both left wing (pro Roe v. Wade) and right wing (smaller government) views simultaneously

That puts you in the libertarian camp. Abortion is murder, BTW, and the Roe decision is unjust and filled with contortions and lies.

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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 31 14:51:00 2018, in response to Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles, posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 31 14:18:49 2018.

That's a Mitch45 post. Really a Mitch45 post.

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Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles)

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 31 14:51:52 2018, in response to Re: Sick of AIM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 31 14:50:19 2018.

Yep; the left re-using ad hominem even though it ends their validity.

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Re: Sick of AIM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles)

Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 14:51:53 2018, in response to Re: Sick of AIM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles), posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 31 14:42:21 2018.

He backed down from "leftists" to "radical left."



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Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles)

Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 14:53:14 2018, in response to Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 31 14:51:52 2018.

Nope. It's Mitch who used the ad hominem. I just called his maligning of 25% of the country disgusting. I didn't say anything about him personally.




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Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 31 14:55:39 2018, in response to Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 31 14:50:54 2018.

Abortion is murder,

Ride the 3 train.

Go to East Tampa.

New Orleans.

Atlanta.

Baltimore.

Philadelphia.

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Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles)

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 31 14:58:06 2018, in response to Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 31 14:55:39 2018.

Abortion is murder. You're still lying about the abortion rates in those high-crime areas and outside them. Steve Dubner and Steve Levitt are and were liars.

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Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 31 15:02:36 2018, in response to Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 31 14:58:06 2018.

Ride the 3 train.

As for "those areas", they usually don't have clinics that perform an abortion. That's why the black conservative group put up a billboard in Manhattan. That's the area where many go for the procedure.

A NYCT worker was killed by gunfire on the 3 train. The "teens" involved no doubt escaped Planned Parenthood.

Have some compassion you Irish-Catholic bully!!!!!

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Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles)

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 31 15:04:36 2018, in response to Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 31 15:02:36 2018.

More lies. Behavior like that is learned.

Steve Levitt and Stephen Dubner's bigoted lies were debunked years ago. Abortion increases crime.

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Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles)

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 31 15:07:52 2018, in response to Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 31 15:04:36 2018.

LOL!

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Re: Sick of Olog-hai's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 31 15:10:53 2018, in response to Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 31 15:04:36 2018.

I agree that these women who abort become EDP's then eventually have offspring and those kids grow up around a crazy shebeast. Growing up around these women increases bad outcomes but if they did not reproduce we'd all be better off.

Ride the 3 train Olog-hai. Observe.

#irishcatholicism
#resist
#sayhername
#plannedparenthood
#abortionlowerscrime

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Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 31 15:13:38 2018, in response to Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles), posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 31 15:07:52 2018.

you are the well read and knowledgeable Spider-Pig and should kind of understand him.

I'd say many of these shebeasts do abort. But they reproduce at some point and that's the problem. Kids, especially males, growing up in a single-mother household with a mother who had an abortion.



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Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles)

Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 15:16:54 2018, in response to Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 31 15:04:36 2018.

Abortion increases crime.

How does that work?

I would never claim that abortion decreases crime. But what is your argument for it increasing crime?



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Re: Sick of lo@lm's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 31 15:34:24 2018, in response to Re: Sick of AlM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles), posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 15:16:54 2018.

How does that work?

It's a violent medical procedure.

Some studies show women never get over the decision to abort.

And many women who abort are mothers at some point, raising kids, but they have emotional issues and the kids are raised by these women.

I would never claim that abortion decreases crime

Alinsky. No surprise your name is in Alinsky.

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Re: Sick of AIM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles)

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 31 15:45:55 2018, in response to Re: Sick of AIM's Crap (Re: U.S. spy agencies: North Korea is working on new missiles), posted by AlM on Tue Jul 31 14:51:53 2018.

Baby steps 😂

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