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Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Mar 8 19:39:59 2018

After a breakthrough, Trump to meet Kim Jung-un in May for talks

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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 8 19:44:02 2018, in response to Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Mar 8 19:39:59 2018.

I hope the talks go well.

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Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Mar 8 19:45:38 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 8 19:44:02 2018.

As do I. Hope for the best, be ready for the worst as the going says.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by Dave on Thu Mar 8 21:16:59 2018, in response to Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Mar 8 19:39:59 2018.

Who better to negotiate with a madman than another madman?

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 8 21:19:34 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by Dave on Thu Mar 8 21:16:59 2018.

Nevertheless, I am rooting for him to succeed. If he does, maybe we'll have a president who deserves a Nobel Peace Prize.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 8 21:21:22 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by Dave on Thu Mar 8 21:16:59 2018.

can you imagine those two hairdo's standing next to each other at a #summit

Orange haired Trump and side cut Un together at last.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by Dave on Thu Mar 8 21:27:37 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 8 21:19:34 2018.

IAVMWTP.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by Dave on Thu Mar 8 21:28:04 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 8 21:21:22 2018.

ROTFL! Luch, this is the post of the week for sure!

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 8 21:35:00 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 8 21:19:34 2018.

One of the purposes of the Nobel Peace Prize, is to encourage the recipients to continue the work for which they are being recognized. That was the reason Dr. Martin Luther King was so honored; it was also true for President Barack Obama. Both deserved their Nobel Prizes.

I will grant that if Trump can successfully get Kim to give up his nuclear arsenal, he, too, will have earned a Nobel Prize. We'll see what develops.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 8 21:40:48 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 8 21:35:00 2018.

I disagree about Obama. Dr. King had actually done something that, by itself, merited the prize. By your logic, Trump should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize right now.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by Easy on Thu Mar 8 21:42:44 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 8 21:40:48 2018.

Iawtp. Obama got the prize just for being elected. Not sure that’s enough.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 8 21:51:56 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 8 21:40:48 2018.

Obama received the Nobel for his work addressing nuclear proliferation (he was the first President since the fall of the Soviet Union to negotiate a nuclear arms reduction treaty with Russia), and for his achievements in international diplomacy.

Trump hasn't yet obtained a commitment from Kim to disarm, merely an offer to begin talks. If Trump can work out a verifiable, mutually beneficial disarmament plan, he will likely be awarded his own Nobel Prize.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 8 21:55:35 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by Easy on Thu Mar 8 21:42:44 2018.

The Nobel Committee begs to differ with you.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by bingbong on Thu Mar 8 21:56:09 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 8 21:21:22 2018.

Uh, yeah. That will be the barber nightmare shot for the Ages.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 8 21:56:23 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 8 21:51:56 2018.

He was awarded the prize before he had done any of those things.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 8 21:56:58 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 8 21:55:35 2018.

Of course they needed an excuse.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 8 21:57:22 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 8 21:56:58 2018.

Like "suspect was reaching for a weapon."

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by Dave on Thu Mar 8 21:59:08 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 8 21:51:56 2018.

Can you imaging The Donald being awarded a Nobel Prize? As if the man's head wasn't swollen enough as it is....(VBG!)

I wish him the best of luck and pray he succeeds!


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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Mar 8 22:15:39 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 8 21:51:56 2018.

Huh! He was nominated less than two weeks into his presidency. He did no such thing by that point yet.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Mar 8 22:16:46 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Mar 8 21:21:22 2018.

LMAO

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by Easy on Thu Mar 8 22:28:55 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 8 21:55:35 2018.

Way too early in the presidency for that wouldn’t you say? We bombed countries and ramped up action in Afghanistan after that. IMO they were trying to manipulate him into being less aggressive with our military.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 8 22:37:49 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 8 21:57:22 2018.

More like the suspect didn't keep his hands where the police can see them.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Mar 8 22:38:22 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 8 21:55:35 2018.

Of course they did.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Mar 8 23:27:06 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 8 21:51:56 2018.

Making shit up again? Facts, Olsen, facts.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 8 23:40:40 2018, in response to Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Mar 8 19:39:59 2018.

I hope it works. Anything is better than crazyman brinkmanship

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by Easy on Thu Mar 8 23:58:29 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 8 23:40:40 2018.

Maybe. Or that may be why he’s where he is with this negotiation.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 9 05:02:45 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Mar 8 23:27:06 2018.

Yup, facts.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Mar 9 05:55:56 2018, in response to Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Mar 8 19:39:59 2018.

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer ?

I know Noko is hurting with the sanctions, but I wouldn't trust anything Kim says.

Maybe he's feeling heat from within to stop playing madman and do something ?

Bill Newkirk

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Mar 9 06:33:32 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 9 05:02:45 2018.

Again, it's not facts, it's after the fact. He was nominated less than two weeks into his presidency. If it was 2010, not 2009, it wouldn't have been a sham.

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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 9 06:46:37 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Mar 9 06:33:32 2018.

Please explain why the Nobel Peace Prize Committee would risk potentially cheapening one of the most prestigious honors in the world, by carrying out a "sham" in recognizing President Obama. Did you even read the citation for Obama's Nobel Prize?

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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 9 07:49:09 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 9 06:46:37 2018.

Because the liberal Norwegians wanted to show their privilege by condescendingly giving it to a black man months into his presidency just to show him, what a good job you're doing! Keep up the good work! You're doing as good as us! Yes, this is what these liberal whites do whether or not you realize it.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jeong-eun by May

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 9 08:07:50 2018, in response to Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by ClearAspect on Thu Mar 8 19:39:59 2018.

Not too fond of McCune-Reischauer or Yale transliteration. Let's give Revised Romanization a shot.

Very sad that his name in Chinese characters means "Gold, true charity" (金正恩).

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 9 09:05:52 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 9 06:46:37 2018.

It did cheapen the prize. He was honored for what he might accomplish, not for what he did accomplish.


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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Mar 9 09:07:58 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 9 05:02:45 2018.

Come on, my friend. You know that this was historic because it was the first "AFFIRMATIVE ACTION" Nobel Peace Prize in history.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Mar 9 09:09:17 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 9 09:05:52 2018.

Frozen Hell Alert: We agree

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Mar 9 09:11:07 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 9 09:05:52 2018.

Funny one says "might accomplish" given what his already-stated beliefs were and are.

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Mar 9 09:24:43 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 9 06:46:37 2018.

Unfortunately, they did
Again, if it was 2010, instead it wouldn't have been a total sham. Less than two weeks into his presidency?
Completely cheapened and sham.

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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Mar 9 09:26:01 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 9 09:05:52 2018.

Exactly. Thank you. That's all. 2010 is when they should have done it. It made that and all future prizes cheapened and a sham

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Posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 9 09:31:46 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by Dave on Thu Mar 8 21:16:59 2018.

Thing is, by proposing this, Kim is demonstrating he isn't. He is showing he's run out of resources and can't continue. He's broke, plain and simple.

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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Mar 9 09:40:39 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 9 09:31:46 2018.

If that's all it is, why didn't obama do it?

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by Dave on Fri Mar 9 09:52:06 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 9 09:31:46 2018.

A valid point but even madmen have moments of sanity.

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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Mar 9 10:08:48 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Mar 8 21:51:56 2018.

Obama's prize was probably about not being George W. Bush more than anything else if you ask me.

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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Mar 9 10:09:37 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 9 09:31:46 2018.

Perhaps. Or perhaps he is using it as a propaganda ploy in his own country, as the North Koreans have often done over the years. The fact is that this could go well, or this could have a horrendous outcome.

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Posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 9 10:27:23 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by Dave on Fri Mar 9 09:52:06 2018.

Guess this might be trump's then. Let's hope so.

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Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 9 10:29:55 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Mar 9 10:09:37 2018.

Hopefully the restraining influence and advice of McMaster, Mattis, and Tillerson will prevent any massive American mistakes during the negotiations. That won't preclude a terrible outcome, but the same terrible outcome could equally well come from not having any negotiations too.




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Posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 9 10:39:59 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Mar 9 10:09:37 2018.

Thta's very possible. IMO, it's because he's broke, and the Chinese have had their fill of his destabilizing actions as well. Does anyone know if they've seen a rise in the number of "illegal aliens" from PNK coming into China? (Yes, they have this same "problem" as some feel exists here)

Knowing that would be helpful as to the whys of this.

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Posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 9 10:41:27 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by AlM on Fri Mar 9 10:29:55 2018.

My only fear is that, should this not go well, that trump will be pressing for a preemptive war.

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Posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 9 10:43:27 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Mar 9 09:40:39 2018.

Because He wasn’t¡r broke then. Something between now and then changed. WRT PNK, lots has. Probably more than we know.

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by R2Chinatown on Fri Mar 9 11:00:16 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 9 10:43:27 2018.

XLT MFG OPR DBF More than you know now

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Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May

Posted by bingbong on Fri Mar 9 11:23:11 2018, in response to Re: Trump to hold direct talks with Kim Jung-un by May, posted by R2Chinatown on Fri Mar 9 11:00:16 2018.

Looks like those Gibberish lessons re paying off. See how it goes when you apply yourself? Try to expand that focus to bing a human being and we may see progress.

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