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I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by SLRT on Mon Mar 5 13:42:55 2018

One reviewer said it is set in a technologically advanced African country that would be a railfan's dream, with streetcars, monorails, and more powered by a mysterious energy source.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Mar 5 13:58:47 2018, in response to I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by SLRT on Mon Mar 5 13:42:55 2018.

Yup. It has all that,and more.

The film is a great imagining of what an African nation, untouched by foreign colonial powers or slave traders, might have accomplished. Yes, I grant that Ethiopia was never colonized, but she was invaded. I think a real-life Wakanda would eventually have been discovered and exploited by the European countries, but that's what suspension of disbelief is all about!

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Mar 5 14:18:39 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Mar 5 13:58:47 2018.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 14:20:20 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Mar 5 14:18:39 2018.

Uh oh. Dissention in the ranks.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Mar 5 14:25:42 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 14:20:20 2018.

well

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by Dave on Mon Mar 5 14:25:51 2018, in response to I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by SLRT on Mon Mar 5 13:42:55 2018.

GREAT movie!

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by SLRT on Mon Mar 5 14:27:17 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Mar 5 13:58:47 2018.

Wakanda would eventually have been discovered and exploited by the European countries

That's debatable. My impression is that if they became as advanced as all that, colonial powers wouldn't have had such an easy time of exploitation, but would likely deal with it more in a peer relationship as it would be, in effect, a "First World Nation."

I won't speculate more until I've seen the movie.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 5 14:33:40 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by SLRT on Mon Mar 5 14:27:17 2018.

It's the fictional equivalent of real life Japan.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 5 14:51:33 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by Dave on Mon Mar 5 14:25:51 2018.

Agree! I like the Marvel films and I think this one is best. I might go see it again.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by SLRT on Mon Mar 5 14:55:01 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 5 14:33:40 2018.

Contemporary Japan or "Long Ago and Far Away" pseudo-Japan?

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 5 15:15:14 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by SLRT on Mon Mar 5 14:55:01 2018.

Contemporary

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Mar 5 15:44:20 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Mar 5 13:58:47 2018.

I think a real-life Wakanda would eventually have been discovered and exploited by the European countries,

Of course you do!!

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 5 16:00:37 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Mar 5 13:58:47 2018.

Ethiopia was invaded in 1936, by which time it was not as advanced as Western countries, or Japan, not even Italy, which was poorer than others.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 16:03:48 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Mar 5 14:25:42 2018.



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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 16:05:38 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by Dave on Mon Mar 5 14:25:51 2018.



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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Mar 5 16:08:09 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 16:03:48 2018.

.........................ok

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 16:28:16 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Mar 5 16:08:09 2018.

lol

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Mar 5 16:44:05 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 16:28:16 2018.

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 16:49:27 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Mar 5 16:44:05 2018.

lmao

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Mar 5 17:00:23 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 16:49:27 2018.

sleeper
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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by Dave on Mon Mar 5 17:10:46 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 16:05:38 2018.

It was. My wife and I have seen all the Marvel movies.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 17:40:00 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Mar 5 17:00:23 2018.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Mar 5 17:41:47 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 5 14:51:33 2018.

I'm not a big fan of Marvel (never really went out of my way to see them, even when released on DVD or streamed, but did like it.
Great effects.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Mar 5 17:43:47 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 17:40:00 2018.

and if i refuse ??
lol

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by Dave on Mon Mar 5 17:46:05 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 5 14:51:33 2018.

I'll wait to buy the Blue-Ray disc. I like the special "making-of" featurettes on the Marvel discs.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 17:46:25 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Mar 5 17:43:47 2018.

You hurt my feelings.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 17:50:33 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by Dave on Mon Mar 5 17:10:46 2018.

So then it's imperative to see all of them.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 17:51:20 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Mar 5 17:41:47 2018.

You're kidding?

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Mar 5 17:52:23 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 17:46:25 2018.

i am touched

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 5 19:07:26 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Mar 5 17:41:47 2018.

Amazing what effects they do now. I saw it in a decent theater, good sound, etc.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 5 19:08:39 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 17:50:33 2018.

No, they're all good standalone fims.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 19:11:17 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Mar 5 17:52:23 2018.

Lol. Me too.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 19:29:47 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by Fred G on Mon Mar 5 19:08:39 2018.

Thank you Dave.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Mar 5 19:40:22 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 19:11:17 2018.

iawtp

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by Easy on Mon Mar 5 19:49:30 2018, in response to I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by SLRT on Mon Mar 5 13:42:55 2018.

I don’t think that it’s all that special from a rail fan perspective but overall it’s maybe my favorite movie ever. It’s fantastic. My brother is in it too, so there’s that.

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‘Black Panther’ offers a regressive, neocolonial vision of Africa

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Mar 5 20:32:21 2018, in response to I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by SLRT on Mon Mar 5 13:42:55 2018.

Amazon Post

Based on the Marvel Comics character of the same name from the fictional African state of Wakanda, the most technologically advanced nation in the world but which apparently prefers to hide its light under the bushel of Third World country status, it has been praised for its depiction of an Africa not defined by colonization or by its relationship with Europe. Wakanda does not pose as a backdrop for white struggles and passions. “It breaks with the spirit of derision that has always saturated Hollywood films about Africa,” gushes Brent Staples in the New York Times.

However, the truth is, the movie is little more than a marvel of marketing. Far from offering a “redemptive counter-mythology,” as Jelani Cobb writes in the New Yorker, the movie trots out many of the same destructive myths about Africans that circulate the globe. At heart, it is a movie about a divided, tribalized continent, discovered by a white man who wants nothing more than to take its mineral resources, a continent run by a wealthy, power-hungry, feuding and feudalist elite, where a nation with the most advanced tech and weapons in the world nonetheless has no thinkers to develop systems of transitioning rulership that do not involve lethal combat or coup d’etat.

This is a vision of Africa that could only spring from the neocolonial mind. It is really telling how close a black “redemptive counter-mythology” sails to the colonial vision of a childish people needing a strong guiding hand to lead them. Despite their centuries of vibranium-induced technological advancement, the Wakandans remain so remarkably unsophisticated that a “returning” American can basically stroll in and take over, just as 19th-century Europeans did to the real Africa.

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The article goes on forever in the link.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Mar 5 20:32:46 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Mar 5 13:58:47 2018.

Washington Post strongly disagrees with you, in the strongest possible terms.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 5 20:49:27 2018, in response to I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by SLRT on Mon Mar 5 13:42:55 2018.

I'm more interested to see if they'll bring Krakoa to the big screen now that they did Wakanda.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by Dave on Mon Mar 5 21:12:49 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Mar 5 17:50:33 2018.

Depends whether or not you like the genre.

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Re: ‘Black Panther’ offers a regressive, neocolonial vision of Africa

Posted by Easy on Mon Mar 5 21:15:49 2018, in response to ‘Black Panther’ offers a regressive, neocolonial vision of Africa, posted by orange blossom special on Mon Mar 5 20:32:21 2018.

Don’t be jealous of the rocks that we got.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 6 07:27:54 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 5 20:49:27 2018.

Not the island that walks like a man!

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Re: I Don't Want aTo See Black Panther Movie

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 6 11:55:00 2018, in response to I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by SLRT on Mon Mar 5 13:42:55 2018.

Wanna is not a word.

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Re: I Don't Want To See Black Panther Movie

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 6 11:56:24 2018, in response to Re: I Don't Want aTo See Black Panther Movie, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 6 11:55:00 2018.

Correction

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by SLRT on Tue Mar 6 15:54:13 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 5 16:00:37 2018.

It was Mussolini's gambit to give Italians the feeling that the Government could do "something" powerful, so he invited the country that seemed like the most likely pushover.

You could say he tried to copy Rome's panem et circenses but not so good on the panem.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by SLRT on Wed Mar 7 13:26:18 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by Easy on Mon Mar 5 19:49:30 2018.

What is your brother doing in the movie?

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by Easy on Wed Mar 7 14:29:26 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by SLRT on Wed Mar 7 13:26:18 2018.

He’s the stunt double for the black panther.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by Dave on Wed Mar 7 15:01:24 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by Easy on Wed Mar 7 14:29:26 2018.

Cool!

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by Easy on Wed Mar 7 18:51:17 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by Dave on Wed Mar 7 15:01:24 2018.

Very proud of him. Google “Daniel Graham Black panther” for more info.

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by Fred G on Wed Mar 7 19:09:41 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by Easy on Wed Mar 7 14:29:26 2018.

Wow!

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Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Mar 7 21:13:27 2018, in response to Re: I Wanna See Black Panther Movie, posted by Easy on Wed Mar 7 18:51:17 2018.

Now you're going to get jacked and stay jacked! I can feel it.

Oh, btw, #blackpantherisaltright

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