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Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Dec 17 11:03:48 2017 The mayor of Nazareth has cancelled traditional outdoor songs and plays celebrating Christmas in the city where Jesus spent his childhood. Mayor Ali Salam, who once made the curious boast that U.S. President Donald Trump “learned everything from me” about how to win elections, indicated that he was punishing local and visiting Christians as revenge for the President’s decision to officially recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. "The decision [by Donald Trump about Jerusalem] has taken away the joy of the holiday, and we will thus cancel the festivities this year.” According to the Bible, the city of Nazareth is where the archangel Gabriel told the Virgin Mary she would bear the Saviour, making it one Christianity’s holiest sites… [And therefore obviously it is a Muslim city with mayor] http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/12/16/christmas-cancelled-nazareths-muslim-mayor-bans-traditional-christmas-celebrations-christs-childhood-home/
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Dec 17 12:21:39 2017, in response to Sorry folks, Christmas has been cancelled this year, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Dec 17 11:03:48 2017.* They aren't going to believe that website. Times of Israel Nazareth cancels Christmas celebrations to protest US move on Jerusalem Annual festival and market axed by Muslim mayor, who says Trump's recognition of capital has 'taken away the joy of the holiday' By Sue Surkes 14 December 2017, 4:55 pm Christmas celebrations in Nazareth — Jesus’ childhood hometown, according to Christian belief — have been canceled to protest the US president’s recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. The city council announced Thursday that Mayor Ali Salam, a Muslim, had ordered the axing of all planned artistic events, including a festival and large Christmas market. “Our identity and faith aren’t up for debate,” Salam said. “The decision [by Donald Trump about Jerusalem] has taken away the joy of the holiday, and we will thus cancel the festivities this year.” Nazareth is one of the holiest cities in Christendom because it was there that the angel Gabriel is believed by Christians to have told the Virgin Mary she would conceive and bear Jesus. According to the New Testament, Jesus also grew up in the town. The annual celebrations are a major tourist draw and source of income for the city, which is inhabited primarily by Arab citizens of Israel, two-thirds of whom are Muslim and the remaining third Christian. In an address last Wednesday from the White House, Trump defied worldwide warnings and insisted that after repeated failures to achieve peace, a new approach was long overdue. He described his decision to recognize Jerusalem as the seat of Israel’s government as merely based on reality. The move was hailed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and by leaders across much of the Israeli political spectrum, and condemned by the vast majority of the international community. Trump stressed that he was not specifying the boundaries of Israeli sovereignty in the city, and called for no change in the status quo at the city’s holy sites.
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Posted by Fred G* on Sun Dec 17 12:25:01 2017, in response to Re: Sorry folks, Christmas has been cancelled this year, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 17 12:21:39 2017.* I’m looking out the window and I can see that Christmas has not been canceled 🎄😂
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sun Dec 17 13:16:32 2017, in response to Sorry folks, Christmas has been cancelled this year, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Dec 17 11:03:48 2017.* Well, I hope the Christians don't listen to him and gather and sing Christmas carols anyway, just to spite that Savage. The spirit is room for him, not everyone else! I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The world would be a better place without the specific ideology and that followers.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Dec 17 13:34:44 2017, in response to Re: Sorry folks, Christmas has been cancelled this year, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 17 13:16:32 2017.* The city is 59 percent Arab these days. The Arabs are 69 percent Muslim, 30.9 percent Christian and the remaining 0.1 percent is probably "other".
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sun Dec 17 13:48:20 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks; Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 17 13:34:44 2017.* Fuck em! If somebody tried to ban Muslims celebrating one of their holidays, they would raise holy hell and everyone knows it.
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Re: Sorry folks, Christmas has NOT been cancelled this year
Posted by AlM* on Sun Dec 17 14:10:39 2017, in response to Re: Sorry folks, Christmas has been cancelled this year, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 17 12:21:39 2017.* The city council announced Thursday that Mayor Ali Salam, a Muslim, had ordered the axing of all planned artistic events, including a festival and large Christmas market. LOL. A festival and a large market have nothing to do with the birth of our Savior.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Dec 17 14:17:01 2017, in response to Re: Sorry folks, Christmas has NOT been cancelled this year, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 17 14:10:39 2017.* You had too much egg nog? What did you not understand about the word "including"?? Whatever you're doing to yourself is frying your brain cells.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Dec 17 14:17:53 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks; Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 17 13:48:20 2017.* Very true. But that's the religion of "pieces" for you.
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Re: Sorry, folks: Christmas has NOT been canceled this year
Posted by AlM* on Sun Dec 17 14:19:47 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks: Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 17 14:17:01 2017.* I don't see any mention in the article of church services being canceled. As the article says, the rest consists of tourist events.
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Posted by AlM* on Sun Dec 17 14:20:48 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks; Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 17 13:48:20 2017.* The article does not provide any mention of Christians being prevented from celebrating Christmas. A market is not a Christmas celebration.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Sun Dec 17 14:29:28 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks; Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 17 14:20:48 2017.* Thank God you're here once again to explain it to me! That's not the point of this article. It's some savage sandcrab purposely punishing and fucking over Christians because he is mad at an opinion that a foreign leader made about Jerusalem.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Dec 17 14:37:58 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks: Christmas has NOT been canceled this year, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 17 14:19:47 2017.* Moving the goalposts now, and splitting hairs? Won't work, sorry.
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Posted by AlM* on Sun Dec 17 16:52:36 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks; Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Dec 17 14:29:28 2017.* How are Christians being punished? They can still worship Christ in the same places and times as last year. Shopkeepers are being punished by being deprived of tourist dollars, but that has nothing to do with Christmas.
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Re: Sorry, folks: tourist season in Nazareth is being disrupted for political reasons
Posted by AlM* on Sun Dec 17 16:54:22 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks: Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 17 14:37:58 2017.* I'm not moving the goal posts. Nothing linked says that the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ is being affected in any way.
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 17 18:29:36 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks: tourist season in Nazareth is being disrupted for political reasons, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 17 16:54:22 2017. Now you're being purely mendacious.
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Re: Sorry, folks: shopping has been canceled this year
Posted by AlM* on Sun Dec 17 18:53:32 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks: Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Dec 17 18:29:36 2017.* OK, show me a quote. Shopping is not part of the celebration of the birth of Jesus.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Sun Dec 17 18:56:44 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks: shopping has been canceled this year, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 17 18:53:32 2017.* Sure it is. It may not have been throughout the centuries, but it is now.
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Posted by AlM* on Sun Dec 17 19:21:13 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks: shopping has been canceled this year, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Dec 17 18:56:44 2017.* I disagree in the context of this thread. Shopping is part of the civil holiday called Christmas. Olog and BB were discussing the religious celebration.
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN* on Sun Dec 17 22:21:57 2017, in response to Sorry folks, Christmas has been cancelled this year, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Dec 17 11:03:48 2017.* Last I heard Christmas is still on. :)
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Sun Dec 17 22:36:19 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks: shopping has been canceled this year, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 17 18:53:32 2017.* Re-read the article and stop making things up.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Mon Dec 18 02:43:14 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks; Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 17 16:52:36 2017.* It has everything to do with anti-christian sentiment from the Muslims and anti United States sentiment from them as well
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Posted by Fred G* on Mon Dec 18 08:21:20 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks; Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 18 02:43:14 2017.* Big fucking deal.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Mon Dec 18 08:58:22 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks; Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 18 08:21:20 2017.* Well, to Christians who practice their faith, it is a big deal.
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Posted by Fred G* on Mon Dec 18 09:03:55 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks; Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 18 08:58:22 2017.* But nobody's interfering with them practicing their faith. you seem to resist the idea that that the religious xmas isn't being shut down.
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Posted by AlM* on Mon Dec 18 09:48:58 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks; Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 18 08:58:22 2017.* Nonsense. It's a big deal politically. A popular civil festival that attracts lots of Christian tourists has been canceled. In my opinion, that was a really stupid move. But absolutely no occasions for Christians to practice their faith have been affected. You're buying Olog's Kool Aid.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Mon Dec 18 10:51:03 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks; Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by Fred G on Mon Dec 18 09:03:55 2017.* I'm also against the other aspects of the Christmas Market being shut down as well
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Mon Dec 18 10:51:26 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks; Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by AlM on Mon Dec 18 09:48:58 2017.* Read my response to Fred
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Posted by Fred G* on Mon Dec 18 10:59:37 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks; Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 18 10:51:03 2017.* Fine but that's got nothing to do with Christians practicing their faith.
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Posted by AlM* on Mon Dec 18 12:21:29 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks; Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 18 10:51:26 2017.* Sure, but now you're changing the subject. I agree that canceling a Christmas market that lots of people enjoy is obnoxious and stupid. But it very simply has nothing to do with Christians practicing their faith. There is no freedom of religion issue here. It's an issue of freedom to shop.
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Posted by Mitch45* on Mon Dec 18 14:00:04 2017, in response to Sorry folks, Christmas has been cancelled this year, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Dec 17 11:03:48 2017.* He's just trying to inflame Christian feelings against Israel and Jews. Its an old trick, and one that often works.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Mon Dec 18 14:04:04 2017, in response to Re: Sorry folks, Christmas has been cancelled this year, posted by Mitch45 on Mon Dec 18 14:00:04 2017.* He's just trying to inflame Christian feelings against Israel and Jews A ban on Christmas by a Muslim will inflame feelings against Muslims. Christians aren't stupid, unless they're leftist nominal "Christians".
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Mon Dec 18 14:36:56 2017, in response to Re: Sorry folks, Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 18 14:04:04 2017.* Except that as the mayor of Nazareth, he’s an agent of the Government of Israel. Flimsy, but enough for the typical antisemite.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Mon Dec 18 16:27:37 2017, in response to Re: Sorry folks, Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Dec 18 14:36:56 2017.* I don't think anybody will blame the Jews on the actions of a Muslim mayor.
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Posted by SMAZ* on Tue Dec 19 07:46:42 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks; Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 17 16:52:36 2017.* Shopkeepers are being punished by being deprived of tourist dollars Most of whom are Muslim anyway.
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Posted by SMAZ* on Tue Dec 19 07:50:10 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks; Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Dec 18 08:58:22 2017.* Yes, eating the Christmas shwarma in the Nazareth market is a central part of my Christian faith.
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Posted by AlM* on Tue Dec 19 09:09:25 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks; Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 19 07:50:10 2017.* Aha. Finally we find someone on OTChat who celebrates Christmas the way God meant it to be celebrated.
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Posted by AlM* on Tue Dec 19 09:10:19 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks; Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by SMAZ on Tue Dec 19 07:46:42 2017.* Which is why the move is really stupid, just not anti-religious.
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Posted by Mitch45* on Tue Dec 19 12:00:20 2017, in response to Re: Sorry folks, Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 18 14:04:04 2017.* I disagree. When Arafat was in charge, he used to stress the fact that Islam recognizes Jesus as a holy prophet and that Jesus is regarded as holy from God in the Koran. Google "Jesus in Islam" and see for yourself. Christmas in Bethlehem was a big deal. Conversely, Arafat would be sure to tell Christians that Judaism completely rejects Jesus from a religious standpoint, not to mention the whole betrayal to the Romans and the crucifixion.
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Posted by Mitch45* on Tue Dec 19 12:00:34 2017, in response to Re: Sorry folks, Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 18 14:04:04 2017.* I disagree. When Arafat was in charge, he used to stress the fact that Islam recognizes Jesus as a holy prophet and that Jesus is regarded as holy from God in the Koran. Google "Jesus in Islam" and see for yourself. Christmas in Bethlehem was a big deal. Conversely, Arafat would be sure to tell Christians that Judaism completely rejects Jesus from a religious standpoint, not to mention the whole betrayal to the Romans and the crucifixion.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Dec 19 12:08:23 2017, in response to Re: Sorry folks, Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Dec 19 12:00:20 2017.* Speaking of the betrayal to the Romans and the crucifixion: YOU’RE WELCOME, CHRISTIANS.
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Posted by Mitch45* on Tue Dec 19 12:43:12 2017, in response to Re: Sorry folks, Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 19 12:08:23 2017.* That's besides the point. Christians with an ounce of understanding of their own religion know that the charge of deicide against Jews is utter hogwash.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Dec 19 13:15:12 2017, in response to Re: Sorry folks, Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Dec 19 12:43:12 2017.* I'm not sure that's the case. There are still plenty of Christians who are into deicide.
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Posted by SMAZ* on Tue Dec 19 14:22:03 2017, in response to Re: Sorry folks, Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Dec 19 12:00:20 2017.* Arafat was an atheist.
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Posted by Mitch45* on Tue Dec 19 15:05:01 2017, in response to Re: Sorry folks, Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 19 13:15:12 2017.* Those are the ones who would hate us anyway. Deicide is a lame excuse.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Dec 19 17:26:12 2017, in response to Re: Sorry folks, Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Dec 19 15:05:01 2017.* Any excuse for antisemitism is a lame excuse.
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Re: Sorry, folks: Christmas has NOT been canceled this year
Posted by orange blossom special* on Wed Dec 20 12:37:12 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks: Christmas has NOT been canceled this year, posted by AlM on Sun Dec 17 14:19:47 2017.* You missed the memo. Christmas is only about plays and shopping now! I can't help but notice that all the classics (written by Jews), or all the old radio and television shows (usually done by Jews back then), didn't mention anything about the savior and little about shopping. It was all mitzvos and goodwill! The fakistianians could learn something from that.
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Posted by orange blossom special* on Wed Dec 20 12:39:01 2017, in response to Re: Sorry folks, Christmas has been canceled this year, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Dec 19 12:00:20 2017.* We still see this garbage today from whoever these so-called Christian groups are in Jerusalem. I think they see what happens to their people in Lebanon and Iraq though and just assume the Jews will be wiped out soon, so they are just trying self-preservation. Since a lot of their claims would be comical otherwise and bizarre.
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Dec 20 12:44:44 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks: Christmas has NOT been canceled this year, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Dec 20 12:37:12 2017.* The only way the fakestinians will learn anything is to abandon their propaganda and their false identity.
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Posted by AlM* on Wed Dec 20 12:49:52 2017, in response to Re: Sorry, folks: Christmas has NOT been canceled this year, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Dec 20 12:37:12 2017.* Christmas is only about plays and shopping now! Ah, you're talking about civil Christmas, not religious Christmas. Well I admit, that stupid mayor did put a tiny dent into civil Christmas. The tourists going to Nazareth will be disappointed. But he's spitting into the wind. Civil Christmas is doing better than ever. Stores are selling more stuff than ever. Santa Claus is doing wonderfully. Even the calendar is cooperating, by putting civil Christmas on a Monday so it can be preceded with two blow-out weekend shopping days. One Muslim mayor can't stop the forces of commerce!
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