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Some claim racial bias because Conyers was told to resign but Franken was not

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 30 18:44:55 2017

WaPo/Da Fix

The growing push for John Conyers to resign, but not Al Franken, has some claiming racial bias

By Eugene Scott | November 30, 2017 at 4:36 PM
The racial dynamics of the sexual harassment allegations against Congress' longest-serving member are causing division within the Democratic Party.

Rep. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) has been accused of mistreating female aides for more than two decades, including making sexual advances, inappropriate touching and verbal abuse. Conyers has defiantly denied wrongdoing and has no plans to resign or retire from the House.

After an accuser detailed her experience on the “Today” show Thursday, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) and other Democratic leaders called for Conyers to resign.

Some have noted that the response to Conyers, whom many consider a civil rights icon, seem harsher than how party leaders have responded to other Democrats facing allegations.

The congressman's attorney told CNN that Pelosi has to “explain what the discernible difference between Congressman Conyers and Sen. Al Franken is.”

Conyers's district is predominantly black and includes large portions of Detroit. Franken, who has been accused of sexual misconduct by at least five women, represents constituents in Minnesota who are overwhelmingly white.

Conyers is somewhat of a legend in black political circles, having employed Rosa Parks and having been a founding member of the Congressional Black Caucus.

On Tuesday, Rep. Cedric L. Richmond (D-La.), the CBC chairman, urged equal treatment across the board:

“The Congressional Black Caucus calls on Congress to treat all members who have been accused of sexual harassment, sexual assault, and other crimes with parity, and we call on Congress and the public to afford members with due process as these very serious allegations are investigated.”

A New York Times Magazine writer reported Wednesday that House Assistant Democratic Leader James E. Clyburn (S.C.) compared Conyers's accusers to the convicted murderer Susan Smith, a white woman who initially claimed that a black man had abducted her kids before she was convicted of drowning her two sons.

But the CBC disputed the reporting, tweeting that it's not accurate.

Although Conyers is respected for his role in the civil rights movement, other CBC members said their response to the allegations against him is not “a civil rights thing,” but instead about making sure people know that sexual harassment and assault in Congress goes beyond one prominent black lawmaker.

Rep. Gwen Moore (D-Wis.), who is a rape survivor, told NPR's David Greene on Wednesday:
“I wouldn’t be shocked or stunned if there were 100 men on both sides of the aisle on both chambers who are accused of this behavior. Sexual predation is pervasive not only in Congress but in our society. This is a social problem that has bubbled up at this time. So for you to characterize this as some sort of Congressional Black Caucus problem, I take offense to that.”
While some CBC members may want to draw attention to how black lawmakers facing sexual misconduct allegations are treated differently — particularly when the accusers are white — some may ultimately join their party leadership in concluding that it would be in everyone's best interest if Conyers resigned.

On Thursday, Clyburn — a longtime friend of the lawmaker from Michigan — was one of those people. He told The Washington Post's Mike DeBonis that just like Conyers stepped down as the ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, he also should step down from Congress.

“He voluntarily stepped aside so we didn't have to do anything. And so all I've said is that I think that he should do the same for his constituents that he did for his colleagues,” Clyburn said.

“He's a friend, and I'm not going to ever step away from a friend because he made a mistake,” Clyburn added. “Even if he made more than one. So my friendship with him, I maintain. And you're always disappointed when your friends have this kind of luck. That doesn't mean you don't stand by them.”


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Re: Some claim racial bias because Conyers was told to resign but Franken was not

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 30 21:47:57 2017, in response to Some claim racial bias because Conyers was told to resign but Franken was not, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 30 18:44:55 2017.

I personally think none of them should resign, but I'm also sick of using racism as every single excuse for everything that does not go your way.

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Re: Some claim racial bias because Conyers was told to resign but Franken was not

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 30 21:56:02 2017, in response to Re: Some claim racial bias because Conyers was told to resign but Franken was not, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 30 21:47:57 2017.

The race card is good and worn out now.

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Re: Some claim racial bias because Conyers was told to resign but Franken was not

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Nov 30 22:21:32 2017, in response to Re: Some claim racial bias because Conyers was told to resign but Franken was not, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 30 21:47:57 2017.

It's not racism. It's age discrimination.

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Re: Some claim racial bias because Conyers was told to resign but Franken was not

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 30 22:30:45 2017, in response to Re: Some claim racial bias because Conyers was told to resign but Franken was not, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 30 21:56:02 2017.

But it still keeps popping up!

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Re: Some claim racial bias because Conyers was told to resign but Franken was not

Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Dec 1 15:06:45 2017, in response to Some claim racial bias because Conyers was told to resign but Franken was not, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 30 18:44:55 2017.

Heyk, where's the usual suspects in the thread??!?! I hope people "protest" over this!

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Re: Some claim racial bias because Conyers was told to resign but Franken was not

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Dec 1 15:25:36 2017, in response to Re: Some claim racial bias because Conyers was told to resign but Franken was not, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Dec 1 15:06:45 2017.

Too much uncomfortable light shining on the left, here. They fear this thread.

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Conyers resigns

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 5 21:24:03 2017, in response to Some claim racial bias because Conyers was told to resign but Franken was not, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 30 18:44:55 2017.

National Public Radio

Conyers Resigns Amid Sexual Harassment Allegations

December 5, 201710:49 AM ET
Brian Naylor, Domenico Montanaro
Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., has sent a letter to House Speaker Paul Ryan and Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi informing them of his decision to step down from Congress as of Tuesday, amid allegations of sexual misconduct leveled by multiple women.

Conyers told a Detroit radio show Tuesday morning that "I am retiring today," though he is effectively resigning. He also said in an interview on The Mildred Gaddis Show that he wants son John Conyers III to succeed him in Congress. "My legacy will continue through my children," Conyers said.

Michigan law says it's up to the governor to call a special election to fill the seat.

Earlier, Conyers' grandnephew, Michigan state Sen. Ian Conyers, told the The New York Times that he planned to run for Conyers' seat.

John Conyers spoke from an undisclosed hospital, according to his attorney. He is being treated for stress-related health concerns.

Several women have accused the Michigan Democrat, who is the most senior member of Congress, of verbal abuse, inappropriate touching and groping over decades.

Conyers, 88, has denied the allegations, saying Tuesday that "they are not accurate; they are not true." But amid an inquiry by the House Ethics Committee following revelations of a settlement two years ago for wrongful dismissal of a female employee, Conyers is stepping down. The ethics committee does not investigate former members, so that inquiry would likely come to an end.

Last week, a woman who received a $27,000 confidential settlement, Marion Brown, described to NBC's Today her accusations against Conyers. "Violating my body, propositioning me, inviting me to hotels with the guise of discussing business, and then propositioning for sex," Brown said. "He just violated my body. He has touched me in different ways, and it was very uncomfortable and very unprofessional."

Brown said she came forward because she wants "to be a voice" and so that her granddaughter would "not have to endure sexism and gender inequality. I thought it was worth the risk to stand up for all the women in the workforce that are voiceless."

Pelosi, D-Calif., had called for Conyers' resignation after Brown's TV appearance. She had previously defended him, calling him an "icon."

The same day as Pelosi's remarks, Ryan, R-Wis., also said Conyers should resign. Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C., one of Pelosi's top deputies in House Democratic leadership and the highest-ranking African-American in Congress, had also told Conyers he should resign, Politico reported.

Conyers stepped down as ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee on Nov. 26. He was the first African-American member of that committee.

Giving up his spot on the committee was a move that a senior Democratic aide said Pelosi helped orchestrate. The minority leader had spent a few days prior to Nov. 26 working with Conyers and other Congressional Black Caucus members on how to "lay groundwork for him to step aside gracefully," the aide told NPR's Scott Detrow.

On Nov. 27, Pelosi said she had spoken to another woman, Melanie Sloan, a founder of Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, who had worked for Conyers and also came forward. She told The Washington Post about alleged mistreatment and verbal abuse, though Sloan said she did not believe she was sexually harassed by Conyers.

Conyers' potential resignation was raised in a statement by Congressional Black Caucus Chairman Cedric Richmond. Richmond, D-La., said he had met with Conyers on Nov. 28 and had a "very candid conversation about the seriousness of the allegations against him, which he vehemently denies."

He added that "any decision to resign from office before the ethics investigation is complete is John's decision to make."

Conyers missed two roll call votes in the House on the evening of Nov. 28, and he was photographed that night on a flight from Washington, D.C., back to Detroit.

Conyers was first elected in 1964 and is a founding member of the Congressional Black Caucus. He had previously served on the staff of former Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich. Conyers' congressional career, which spanned more than 50 years, included voting for articles of impeachment against President Richard Nixon. He sponsored the bill to declare Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday a national holiday, as well as the Alcohol Warning Label, National Voter Registration and Hate Crime Statistics acts.

He also hired civil rights heroine Rosa Parks to serve on his congressional staff in his Detroit office. Parks worked for Conyers for more than 20 years.


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CONYERS RESIGNS IN DISGRACE

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 5 22:25:56 2017, in response to Conyers resigns, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 5 21:24:03 2017.

Subject line corrected. Time for that other disgrace (pelosi) to go too!

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Re: Conyers resigns

Posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 5 22:37:44 2017, in response to Conyers resigns, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 5 21:24:03 2017.

This isn't, or shouldn't be, news to anyone. On Sunday the annoncement he wasn't going to run again was coupled with speculation of resignation. Apparently there's health issues involved as well, he was recently hospitalized.

He also handled his accusers, all of whom were adults at the time of their respective indices as opposed to underage girls, poorly. Let's see trump resign now.

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Re: CONYERS RESIGNS IN DISGRACE

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Dec 5 23:42:56 2017, in response to CONYERS RESIGNS IN DISGRACE, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue Dec 5 22:25:56 2017.

iawtp

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Re: Conyers resigns

Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 6 01:26:25 2017, in response to Conyers resigns, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 5 21:24:03 2017.

As it should be. Democrats put pressure on lawmakers who behave badly toward women.

And Roy Moore, who has done far worse? Endorsed by our President.





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Re: Conyers resigns

Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Dec 6 02:24:18 2017, in response to Conyers resigns, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 5 21:24:03 2017.

Good... Too bad, Moore won't do the same and probably actually win a congressional seat.

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Re: Conyers resigns

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 08:05:00 2017, in response to Re: Conyers resigns, posted by bingbong on Tue Dec 5 22:37:44 2017.

You obviously don't understand the issues here any better than you understand the use of commas in punctuation.

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Re: Conyers resigns

Posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 6 15:12:14 2017, in response to Re: Conyers resigns, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 08:05:00 2017.

I understand both. Sorry my writing is beyond your capacity to comprehend.

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Re: Conyers resigns

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 16:58:09 2017, in response to Re: Conyers resigns, posted by bingbong on Wed Dec 6 15:12:14 2017.

Your punctuation indicates a sub- high school level of education. Your comprehension seems somewhat less.

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Re: Conyers resigns

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 6 23:59:40 2017, in response to Re: Conyers resigns, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 16:58:09 2017.

Athwart

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Re: Conyers resigns

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Dec 7 00:06:49 2017, in response to Re: Conyers resigns, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 6 23:59:40 2017.

Nice word

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Re: Conyers resigns

Posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 7 09:39:25 2017, in response to Re: Conyers resigns, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 6 23:59:40 2017.

He won't know what it means. Nor will he understand if told.

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