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Mueller’s Credibility Problem

Posted by Dave on Tue Dec 5 11:30:21 2017


WSJ Editorial


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Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Dec 5 12:27:57 2017, in response to Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 5 11:30:21 2017.

I was going to complain about the editorial, but then I actually read it.

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Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Dec 5 22:19:35 2017, in response to Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 5 11:30:21 2017.

To read the full story, Subscribe. No thanks.

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Dec 5 23:50:59 2017, in response to Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by Dave on Tue Dec 5 11:30:21 2017.

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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Dec 6 03:36:09 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Dec 5 23:50:59 2017.

Figures

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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Dec 6 05:11:25 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Dec 5 23:50:59 2017.

IAWTP.

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Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem

Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 6 09:33:41 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Dec 5 23:50:59 2017.

Sorry, the story requires an IQ above 50 to understand. Go back to sleep now.

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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 09:35:09 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 6 09:33:41 2017.

LOL Retard gets bitch-slapped .

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Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem

Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 6 09:53:34 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 6 09:33:41 2017.

I thought it was an editorial, not a story. But in any case, it requires a login to read. Would you care to outrageously violate copyright law by posting it for us?





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Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem

Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 6 10:42:10 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by AlM on Wed Dec 6 09:53:34 2017.

Outrageous!


Donald Trump is his own worst enemy, as his many ill-advised tweets on the weekend about Michael Flynn, the FBI and Robert Mueller’s Russia probe demonstrate. But that doesn’t mean that Mr. Mueller and the Federal Bureau of Investigation deserve a pass about their motives and methods, as new information raises troubling questions.

The Washington Post and the New York Times reported Saturday that a lead FBI investigator on the Mueller probe, Peter Strzok, was demoted this summer after it was discovered he’d sent anti- Trump texts to a mistress. As troubling, Mr. Mueller and the Justice Department kept this information from House investigators, despite Intelligence Committee subpoenas that would have exposed those texts. They also refused to answer questions about Mr. Strzok’s dismissal and refused to make him available for an interview.

The news about Mr. Strzok leaked only when the Justice Department concluded it couldn’t hold out any longer, and the stories were full of spin that praised Mr. Mueller for acting “swiftly” to remove the agent. Only after these stories ran did Justice agree on Saturday to make Mr. Strzok available to the House.

This is all the more notable because Mr. Strzok was a chief lieutenant to former FBI Director James Comey and played a lead role investigating alleged coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia during the 2016 election. Mr. Mueller then gave him a top role in his special-counsel probe. And before all this Mr. Strzok led the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s emails and sat in on the interview she gave to the FBI shortly before Mr. Comey publicly exonerated her in violation of Justice Department practice.

Oh, and the woman with whom he supposedly exchanged anti-Trump texts, FBI lawyer Lisa Page, worked for both Mr. Mueller and deputy FBI director Andrew McCabe, who was accused of a conflict of interest in the Clinton probe when it came out that Clinton allies had donated to the political campaign of Mr. McCabe’s wife. The texts haven’t been publicly released, but it’s fair to assume their anti-Trump bias must be clear for Mr. Mueller to reassign such a senior agent.

There is no justification for withholding all of this from Congress, which is also investigating Russian influence and has constitutional oversight authority. Justice and the FBI have continued to defy legal subpoenas for documents pertaining to both surveillance warrants and the infamous Steele dossier that was financed by the Clinton campaign and relied on anonymous Russian sources.

While there is no evidence so far of Trump-Russia collusion, House investigators have turned up enough material to suggest that anti-Trump motives may have driven Mr. Comey’s FBI investigation. The public has a right to know whether the Steele dossier inspired the Comey probe, and whether it led to intrusive government eavesdropping on campaign satellites such as Carter Page.

All of this reinforces our doubts about Mr. Mueller’s ability to conduct a fair and credible probe of the FBI’s considerable part in the Russia-Trump drama. Mr. Mueller ran the bureau for 12 years and is fast friends with Mr. Comey, whose firing by Mr. Trump triggered his appointment as special counsel. The reluctance to cooperate with a congressional inquiry compounds doubts related to this clear conflict of interest.
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Mr. Mueller’s media protectorate argues that anyone critical of the special counsel is trying to cover for Mr. Trump. But the alleged Trump-Russia ties are the subject of numerous probes—Mr. Mueller’s, and those of various committees in the House and Senate. If there is any evidence of collusion, Democrats and Mr. Mueller’s agents will make sure it is spread far and wide.

Yet none of this means the public shouldn’t also know if, and how, America’s most powerful law-enforcement agency was influenced by Russia or partisan U.S. actors. All the more so given Mr. Comey’s extraordinary intervention in the 2016 campaign, which Mrs. Clinton keeps saying turned the election against her. The history of the FBI is hardly without taint.

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who appointed Mr. Mueller, is also playing an increasingly questionable role in resisting congressional oversight. Justice has floated multiple reasons for ignoring House subpoenas, none of them persuasive.

First it claimed cooperation would hurt the Mueller probe, but his prosecutions are proceeding apace. Then Justice claimed that providing House investigators with classified material could hurt security or sources. But House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes has as broad a security clearance as nearly anyone in government. Recently Justice said it can’t interfere with a probe by the Justice Department Inspector General—as if an IG trumps congressional oversight.

Mr. Nunes is understandably furious at the Strzok news, on top of the other stonewalling. He asked Justice to meet the rest of his committee’s demands by close of business Monday, and if it refuses Congress needs to pursue contempt citations against Mr. Rosenstein and new FBI Director Christopher Wray.

The latest news supports our view that Mr. Mueller is too conflicted to investigate the FBI and should step down in favor of someone more credible. The investigation would surely continue, though perhaps with someone who doesn’t think his job includes protecting the FBI and Mr. Comey from answering questions about their role in the 2016 election.



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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 6 10:55:59 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by AlM on Wed Dec 6 09:53:34 2017.

Didn't require a login for me. Maybe the paywall only kicked in after a time?

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Posted by R2Chinatown on Wed Dec 6 11:36:29 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 6 10:42:10 2017.

There is so much more to the Strzok story not included in this editorial. For example, it was Strzok who changed the language in the Comey exoneration of Hillary Clinton from "Gross negligence" (which is criminal under the statute) to "extremely careless" (which does not rise to the level of criminality). It was also Strzok who dismissed the issue of Classified material from Hillary Clinton found on Andrew Weiner's laptop. There is much more but one does get the sense that the FBI has been hijacked by political operatives.

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 11:45:50 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Dec 6 03:36:09 2017.

figures what ?

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 11:46:07 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Dec 6 05:11:25 2017.

thank you

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 11:46:29 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 6 09:33:41 2017.

STFU

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 11:46:49 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 09:35:09 2017.

STFU

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Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Dec 6 12:03:44 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 11:46:29 2017.

IS that the school you went to?

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 12:06:12 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Dec 6 12:03:44 2017.

NOPE

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Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Dec 6 12:10:45 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 12:06:12 2017.

You certainly bring it up a lot.

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Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 6 12:18:42 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 6 10:55:59 2017.

IIRC, the article is free to read on the day it's published. After that you need a subscription.

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Posted by Dave on Wed Dec 6 12:19:22 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Dec 6 12:10:45 2017.

LMAO! Brilliant, Irwin, just brilliant!

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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Dec 6 12:56:50 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 6 12:19:22 2017.

Salaam either went to STFU or Whatsamatter U.

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Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 6 13:00:27 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Dec 6 12:56:50 2017.

Hey, Wossamotta U (I believe that's the correct spelling) was a fine institution. Bullwinkle went there.



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Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Dec 6 13:03:43 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by AlM on Wed Dec 6 13:00:27 2017.

I stand corrected.

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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 13:28:38 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 11:46:49 2017.

Who are you talking to, bro? Me or Train Dude?

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Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Dec 6 13:36:35 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by AlM on Wed Dec 6 13:00:27 2017.

I thought he was a member of the South Harmon Institute of Technology Sandwiches

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Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Dec 6 13:57:15 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by mtk52983 on Wed Dec 6 13:36:35 2017.

lol

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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 6 13:58:24 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 13:28:38 2017.

He couldn't tell the difference between "Mr. MaBSTOA" and "MaBSTOA Yard Operator".

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 13:59:54 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Dec 6 12:10:45 2017.

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 13:59:59 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Dec 6 12:10:45 2017.

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 14:00:24 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 6 12:19:22 2017.

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 14:00:38 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Dec 6 12:56:50 2017.

NOPE NOT TRUE

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 14:01:24 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 13:28:38 2017.

both

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both

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 14:01:45 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 6 13:58:24 2017.

WTF

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 14:01:49 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 6 13:58:24 2017.

WTF

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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 16:47:15 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 14:01:27 2017.

Just keep proving what a half wit you are. You had your chance a few weeks ago.

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 17:00:02 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 16:47:15 2017.

WTF are you yammering about TRAIN DUDE ?

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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 17:01:27 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 17:00:02 2017.

Thank you for proving my point, stupid.

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 17:02:50 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 17:01:27 2017.

prove you are NOT [ TRAIN DUDE ] !!!!!!!
do that first

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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 17:10:33 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 17:02:50 2017.

I offered to meet you when I was on LA a few months ago and you pussied out.

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 18:22:44 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 17:10:33 2017.

i did not
prove it

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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 18:24:29 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 18:22:44 2017.

Idiot, we only have to go back on OT Chat where you warned me not to come near you or your wife.

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 18:25:48 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 18:24:29 2017.

go back and were you posting under train dude ??
or something else ???
nut

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 18:30:07 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 18:24:29 2017.

i only told one man that and his handle was GB
is that you too??
if so you have a lot of handles
lol

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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 21:18:35 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 18:25:48 2017.

You really are not so bright

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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Dec 6 21:18:57 2017, in response to Re: Mueller’s Credibility Problem, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Dec 6 21:18:35 2017.

what are you

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