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Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by Dave on Fri Feb 24 21:00:29 2017


Many public colleges that are supposed to abide by the Constitution and guarantee freedom of expression


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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by displaced angeleno on Fri Feb 24 21:07:40 2017, in response to Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by Dave on Fri Feb 24 21:00:29 2017.

Actually, all public colleges are bound by the Constitution in offering their services.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 24 21:14:27 2017, in response to Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by Dave on Fri Feb 24 21:00:29 2017.

Fordham!!!!!

#irishcatholicism

I've been telling this board about #irishcatholicism for years and how Irish-Catholics are not really Catholics, and are only interested in the political influence through the Church.

I threaded about the fire at a mosque in Tampa and I'll bet tomorrow's petitions at Church will include some mention of it.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 25 10:03:37 2017, in response to Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by Dave on Fri Feb 24 21:00:29 2017.

any list that doesn't include places like Bob Jones Univ. or Regents U doesn't even pass the laugh test.

Why should anyone here find this list to be credible?

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by SLRT on Sat Feb 25 10:44:23 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 25 10:03:37 2017.

When Harvard and Fordham and Williams are on a list like that it's cause for concern.

Who cares about Bob Jones and I never even heard of Regents U.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by AlM on Sat Feb 25 11:09:46 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by SLRT on Sat Feb 25 10:44:23 2017.

When Harvard and Fordham and Williams are on a list like that it's cause for concern.

To put Harvard on the list and not Bob Jones suggests bias. They didn't say it was a list of the worst, among academically important institutions.

Which is not to say that Harvard doesn't stifle speech in certain ways - it's just that I wouldn't trust the results just because the list has been made.




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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by SLRT on Sat Feb 25 11:23:57 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by AlM on Sat Feb 25 11:09:46 2017.

To put Harvard on the list and not Bob Jones suggests bias.

Perhaps. But when someone interviews for a top job, what do you think the chances are for the Bob Jones grad? Or Harvard.

Harvard and its grads have a lot more to lose in intellectual creds.

I will admit the Bob Jones grad might have a leg up in managing a Chick-fil-A franchise.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 26 09:05:30 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by SLRT on Sat Feb 25 11:23:57 2017.

So now you are trying to manufacture a criteria that the publishers of the list did not make themselves?

LuchAAA's lists have more credibility than that one.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 09:21:58 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by SMAZ on Sun Feb 26 09:05:30 2017.

I'm waiting for Luchie's list of SubChat who eat Chick-fil-A.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 26 09:41:50 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 09:21:58 2017.

Spider-Pig would be on that list.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 11:54:36 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 26 09:41:50 2017.

They serve chimeras?


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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 26 12:09:04 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 11:54:36 2017.

???

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 15:07:24 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 26 12:09:04 2017.

A Spider-Pig is a chimera. Not to mention trait.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 15:08:27 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 15:07:24 2017.

*traif

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 26 15:15:53 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 09:21:58 2017.

I'm waiting for Luchie's list of SubChat who eat Chick-fil-A.

Luchie? That's very streetcarmanesque of you.

On my end I'm always observing Irish-Catholicism and how they represent the liberal activist wing of The Church.

And I have documented MANY cases of this activism.

My next List will be List of R27/30 lovers. That was an awesome member of the fleet.



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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 26 15:49:09 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 26 09:41:50 2017.

I remember Chick-fil-A day.

I said, "We're all Baptists today. Please support Chick-fil-A".

You don't seem like the kind of guy to let your politics decide where you would and would not eat.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 26 20:51:56 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 26 15:49:09 2017.

I would, it's just that I didn't find Chick-fil-A's politics personally objectionable. So what if they oppose same sex marriage?

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 26 20:54:56 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 26 20:51:56 2017.

Well, the way I see it, every citizen of the world and business will have to display their political beliefs or be punished.

I a few years I expect YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter to be conservative-free zones. They will simply remove all such content.

Channels like "Louder with Crowder" will be banned. That's an example. But this will happen.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Feb 26 21:03:22 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 26 20:51:56 2017.

It's just a personal opinion of the CEO. If I boycotted companies because I found their CEO's opinions/actions oppresive, I'd never be able to buy anything.

About the only time I allow ideology to dictate my purchasing decisions is to support the local economy.

Buy from somewhere in my town > somewhere within NYS > somewhere one state/province away from NYS. So even though I find Coca-Cola tastier, I will buy Pepsi products because they are bottled & headquartered in NY. My craft beer choices are similar.

When I am a tourist I try to buy made in [state/country I am visiting].

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 26 21:05:58 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Feb 26 21:03:22 2017.

I won't eat Ben and Jerry's.

I always preferred Carvel anyway, but now that I know their politics, I make sure to never try them and try other brands instead.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 26 21:54:27 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 26 20:54:56 2017.

In a few years I expect YouTube, Facebook, and Twitter to be conservative-free zones

They'll lose lots of users then.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 26 22:02:18 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 26 21:54:27 2017.

They'll lose lots of users then.

They will lose advertisers if they don't remove that content.


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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 26 22:10:08 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 26 22:02:18 2017.

No they won't. The advertisers are already themselves losing money for backing left-wing causes.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 26 22:52:31 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 26 22:10:08 2017.

No they won't. The advertisers are already themselves losing money for backing left-wing causes.

Give it time.

The goal will be to control social media. I would not know about Hon Han Hen, and bathroom laws against men in Sweden if not for social media.

The Left will get rid of all opposing views.



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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 26 22:59:19 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 26 22:52:31 2017.

Simply can't happen. Law of averages.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 26 23:07:56 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 26 22:59:19 2017.

All logic is thrown out the window when dealing with the Tony G/Will D/Ft Greene G/Joe V/AlM segment of society.

All conservative speech will be shut down. First on social media. Watch.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Feb 26 23:43:21 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 26 23:07:56 2017.

Then conservatives will simply form their own social media. Even if not, Fox News and Breitbart's comment areas aren't going anywhere.

Also curiously - all the left wing news sites are the ones that turned off their comments areas. Which side is the one that claims to value free speech again?

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 26 23:46:54 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Feb 26 23:43:21 2017.

Exactly right.

Left-wing sites continue to shut down Disqus too, which remains open on conservative sites. AP's "The Big Story" had Disqus comment spaces until early last year.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 26 23:47:39 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 26 23:07:56 2017.

No it won't. Doing so will result in social media failing, and they'll beg the right to come back.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 27 00:14:04 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Feb 26 23:43:21 2017.

the Left does not like discussion.

Yeah. There will be small areas where conservatives might exchange ideas, but major vehicles like FB, YT, and Twitter will be safe zones.

Watch and see.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Feb 27 00:24:03 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 27 00:14:04 2017.

If so, here's the order in which I think they'd go:
Twitter - It's already started.
FB - Too big to do quickly, but it may happen in 5 years.
YT - It all comes down to the almighty dollar here. If conservatives can outshine liberals in generating content people want to watch, it doesn't matter. The beauty of Alphabet (Google) quietly discarding "don't be evil" is they're free to ignore the feelings of their liberal employees in the name of profit.

Special mention: Reddit - it has already started here too, but only at the extremes on both ends of the spectrum. Remarkable that they even are censoring at all considering it's essentially a *chan without anonymity and with post ranking.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Feb 27 00:24:42 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 15:07:24 2017.

No, it's not. It's a pig.
Look out, here comes the Spider-Pig.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Feb 27 00:32:45 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Feb 27 00:24:03 2017.

i think it comes down to who controls ad dollars.

It's mostly SJW's controlling things.

Look at sports. Movies. Every aspect of life.

I know someone who went to an auto show. He said they don't have hot models at the cars like they did thirty years ago.



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Re: List of worst anti-free speech colleges

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 27 10:16:20 2017, in response to Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by Dave on Fri Feb 24 21:00:29 2017.

The list is not worst compared to other lists, as if there were better ways of listing the bad colleges.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 27 10:18:17 2017, in response to Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by Dave on Fri Feb 24 21:00:29 2017.

BTW, the list might be the worst because they put Fordham on there for banning Students for Justice in Palestine.

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Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 27 10:19:06 2017, in response to Re: Worst list of anti-free speech colleges, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 24 21:14:27 2017.

Wrong, wrong wrong.

Fordham was put on the list for banning an antisemitic troublemaker group, the so-called "Students for Justice in 'Palestine'".

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