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Dem establishment vs insurgents, as we post

Posted by SLRT on Sat Feb 25 15:33:07 2017

Ex-Labor Secretary Perez fell one-half vote short of winning DNC chair on first ballot with Ellison 14 votes behind.

What happens after will be interesting.

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Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by SLRT on Sat Feb 25 15:40:25 2017, in response to Dem establishment vs insurgents, as we post, posted by SLRT on Sat Feb 25 15:33:07 2017.

The Establishment hangs in there. But Bernie has a mailing list of 5 million supporters.

The 2016 election is gone, but its spirit continues to drool.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by AlM on Sat Feb 25 15:52:09 2017, in response to Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by SLRT on Sat Feb 25 15:40:25 2017.

That's pretty absurd of you. You have denigrated Sanders' stances a lot more than middle-of-the-road Democratic stands. You should be content that the moderate is leading.





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Re: Dem establishment vs insurgents, as we post

Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 25 15:59:11 2017, in response to Dem establishment vs insurgents, as we post, posted by SLRT on Sat Feb 25 15:33:07 2017.

They voted a 2nd time. Perez got 235, Eliison got 200. Immediately, Perez moved to make Ellison Deputy Chair. Everyone is happy now. Too bad no one voted for the fellow from South Bend.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by MTK52983 on Sat Feb 25 18:11:14 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by AlM on Sat Feb 25 15:52:09 2017.

I am glad that someone less extreme than Keith Ellison won, but for the Democrats to win going forward they need to realize that they can't take blue collar workers for granted and need to get government off of the backs of hardworking citizens.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 25 18:15:25 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by MTK52983 on Sat Feb 25 18:11:14 2017.

I was hoping for the South Bend mayor.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by MTK52983 on Sat Feb 25 18:23:05 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 25 18:15:25 2017.

He will likely occupy some role in the revamped DNC leadership as an openly Gay, Naval Reservist and millennial checks a lot of boxes. The DNC has become all about checking boxes.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 25 18:24:46 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by MTK52983 on Sat Feb 25 18:23:05 2017.

That's why I wanted him on top: Veteran, Millenial, Gay, Red State boxes all checked.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by SLRT on Sat Feb 25 19:05:58 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by AlM on Sat Feb 25 15:52:09 2017.

You're right but you're misreading. I never wanted Bernie and said so.

I'm glad his side lost in this, but I'm waiting to see if the fur is going to fly.

His supporters feel that Hillary cheated him out of the nomination. Many also seem to think that Trump won on Bernie's issues.

Now the establishment candidate narrowly beat Bernie's choice for DNC.

Do you think we'll now have quiet unity.


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Re: Dem establishment vs insurgents, as we post

Posted by SLRT on Sat Feb 25 19:12:35 2017, in response to Re: Dem establishment vs insurgents, as we post, posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 25 15:59:11 2017.

Maybe like JFK had to make his rival, the powerful LBJ, his vice president.

No one in the Kennedy camp liked that, but he might not have won without him.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 26 02:17:44 2017, in response to Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by SLRT on Sat Feb 25 15:40:25 2017.

not the other guy?

Islamophobia?

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by Fred G on Sun Feb 26 03:19:45 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by SLRT on Sat Feb 25 19:05:58 2017.

Bernie supporters will probably end up forming their own party. They'll never be content within an established party and many don't seem to understand that a lot of us don't want to move as far left as they would like us to. So they'll continue to be outvoted and they'll continue to accuse us of rigging the vote so they may as well just go start their own party and see where it goes

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Feb 26 06:54:26 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by Fred G on Sun Feb 26 03:19:45 2017.

Bernie supporters will probably end up forming their own party.

Is there a current party that already fits the bill without starting a new one ?

Bill Newkirk

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 26 06:57:41 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Feb 26 06:54:26 2017.

No. People in the Green Party don't really have Sanders' economic views.



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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by bingbong on Sun Feb 26 09:14:52 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by MTK52983 on Sat Feb 25 18:11:14 2017.

Yet it's the republicans that are interfering more, while providing way less.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 26 09:37:27 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by Fred G on Sun Feb 26 03:19:45 2017.

That would be a disaster.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Feb 26 11:08:04 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 25 18:24:46 2017.

So you find the fact that he's gay to be an important qualifying feature for a political candidate? Why is that?

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Re: Dem establishment vs insurgents, as we post

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Feb 26 11:14:56 2017, in response to Dem establishment vs insurgents, as we post, posted by SLRT on Sat Feb 25 15:33:07 2017.

So now the party of tolerance has shown itself to be islamaphobic while still choosing a man who feels that the voting rights of white people need not be protected. Great choice, democrats.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 11:19:47 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by Joe V on Sat Feb 25 18:24:46 2017.

But are those all the general electorate's check boxes?

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Re: Dem establishment vs insurgents, as we post

Posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 11:21:29 2017, in response to Re: Dem establishment vs insurgents, as we post, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Feb 26 11:14:56 2017.

Berniephobic.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 11:33:51 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Feb 26 09:37:27 2017.

Yes, but let me be Devil's Advocate and give you a counter-argument:

"If Ellison had won, Bernie's people would be satisfied and mainstreamers would not promote a schism. Ellison and Bernieites would then be forced to the center."

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 26 11:37:09 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 11:19:47 2017.

He isn't running for public office.

I doubt Trump got more than a tiny handful of votes because voters preferred Reince Priebus to Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.


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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 26 11:39:43 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 11:33:51 2017.

What makes you think Bernieites even care in big numbers?

And Ellison, Sanders, and Warren all will enthusiastically support the Democratic candidate in 2020 against Trump or Pence.


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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 26 11:43:02 2017, in response to Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by SLRT on Sat Feb 25 15:40:25 2017.

This is the guy who said that whites aren't protected by the Voting Rights Act. Such a claim means that the Voting Rights Act violates the Fourteenth Amendment.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 11:49:07 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 26 11:37:09 2017.

Ask the people who think the face of the DNC should have been decided by checkboxes.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Feb 26 12:11:32 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Feb 26 11:43:02 2017.

He seems to fit into where the scumocrats are heading as a party. The party is be coming a party for "all" but white males. For now, white males will be tolerated.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Feb 26 12:17:00 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by bingbong on Sun Feb 26 09:14:52 2017.

What do you know about working people, you elitist pig?

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by bingbong on Sun Feb 26 12:24:13 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Feb 26 12:17:00 2017.

More than you do. Which applies pretty much in everything.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Feb 26 12:34:15 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by bingbong on Sun Feb 26 12:24:13 2017.

LOL. You keep holding on to that thought, such that it is.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by bingbong on Sun Feb 26 13:11:47 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Feb 26 12:34:15 2017.

Lobbing Only Lies again.....

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 26 13:18:53 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Feb 26 11:08:04 2017.

GLBTQ vote.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 26 13:20:06 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Feb 26 12:34:15 2017.

She is not an elitest.
You are the one that only the priviliged few should have health insurance.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 26 13:21:11 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Feb 26 12:11:32 2017.

If you typify them, why not.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Feb 26 13:22:41 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 26 13:20:06 2017.

English please, bingbong!

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Feb 26 13:24:08 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 26 13:18:53 2017.

Are you part of the GLBTQ voting block?

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 26 13:28:51 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Feb 26 13:24:08 2017.

No.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Feb 26 13:37:46 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 26 13:28:51 2017.

So then why is it so important to you that he be gay?

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 26 13:40:46 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Feb 26 13:37:46 2017.

It was ONE of 4 factors.
I don't live in a Red state either, but it was another checkbox for him.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Feb 26 13:47:19 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 26 13:40:46 2017.

You still haven't explained why it's important for the DNC chairman to be gay. If I said that it was important for him to be hetero, you'd say that there was something wrong with me so now I want you to explain why his sexual preference is important to you!

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Feb 26 13:50:20 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 26 11:39:43 2017.

Much like they did in 2016. How did that work out for you?

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 26 14:27:57 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Feb 26 13:47:19 2017.

Oh, STFU.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 26 14:29:00 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Feb 26 13:50:20 2017.

Won the popular vote.
Took back 2 Senate sets and several House seats.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Feb 26 14:37:26 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 26 14:27:57 2017.

You sound a bit flusteted, Joey. I guess you can't explain your prejudiced behavior.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Feb 26 14:39:02 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 26 14:29:00 2017.

Lost the white house
Didn't win the Senate
Didn't get the house back
So now, you were saying?

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 26 14:42:30 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Feb 26 14:39:02 2017.

We know that. Trump had no coattails in Congress.

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 26 16:06:10 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Feb 26 14:39:02 2017.

how political will tonight's awards show be?

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Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair

Posted by SLRT on Sun Feb 26 16:14:06 2017, in response to Re: Obama's Man Perez is new DNC Chair, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Feb 26 16:06:10 2017.

Very. It's expected.

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