Home · Maps · About

Home > OTChat

[ Post a New Response | Return to the Index ]

(1414401)

view threaded

Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 01:21:19 2017

My answer is that it's a public service and a patriotic mandate. It should be made compulsory. Failure to do so should be a punishable offense. If only enough Italians and Germans had done this in the 20's and 30's, history would have been different.
----------

Linky with video of this act of Patriotism.

Attack on Alt-Right Leader Has Internet Asking: Is It O.K. to Punch a Nazi?

By LIAM STACK - NY Times


Is it O.K. to punch a Nazi?

That is not a brainteaser or a hypothetical question posed by a magazine on Twitter. It is an actual question bouncing around the internet after an attack on a well-known far-right activist, Richard B. Spencer, in Washington after the inauguration of Donald J. Trump as president on Friday.

Mr. Spencer, who is credited with coining the term alt-right and describes himself as an “identitarian,” was punched in the head on Inauguration Day by a person clad in black as he was being interviewed by a journalist. At the time of the attack, Mr. Spencer was explaining the meaning of Pepe the Frog, a cartoon figure adopted as a mascot by the alt-right, a racist, far-right fringe movement that is anti-immigrant, anti-Semitic and anti-feminist. Video of the attack shows Mr. Spencer reeling to one side under the force of the blow and his attacker darting through a crowd after landing the punch.


A bystander who chased the attacker later posted a video on YouTube of his encounter with the man. The assailant can be heard telling a friend that the man filming them is “mad at me because I hit Richard Spencer.” (The bystander who made the video does not appear to be a supporter of Mr. Spencer and disparagingly refers to the activist in the clip as “a neo-Nazi.”)


Mr. Spencer described the incident in a Periscope video he posted on Twitter on Friday. Shortly after the attack, he said, he was spat on by another person. On Saturday, he said he had a black eye.


Richard 🐸 Spencer ✔ @RichardBSpencer
The assault on me.

Richard B. Spencer @RichardBSpencer
The assault on me. — Washington, DC, United States
periscope.tv

Mr. Spencer’s video was recorded from what he described as “a safe space.” He said he thought the attack happened, in part, because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

“There was an actual anti-fascist rally going on, and I walked into it,” he said. Margarita Mikhaylova, a spokeswoman for the District of Columbia Metropolitan Police Department, said on Friday afternoon that Mr. Spencer had not filed a police report.

Video of the attack quickly inspired a flood of jokes and memes online, some of which set the punch to songs like “Born in the U.S.A.” Jon Favreau, a former speechwriter for Barack Obama, was one of many who posted a comment.


Jon Favreau ✔ @jonfavs
I don't care how many different songs you set Richard Spencer being punched to, I'll laugh at every one.

There was little substantive debate online about the ethics of punching Mr. Spencer. Twitter is not a place where minds are often changed, and the supporters and opponents of the sucker punch were unmoved by one another’s quips.

Opponents of the punch tended to say that violence had no place in political debate. Supporters tended to say the punch was funny, and more than a few compared Mr. Spencer’s attacker to famous Nazi punchers from pop culture, like Indiana Jones and Captain America.

N*I*C*K ✔ @catchdini
"Punch them" is, like, Nazi 101, I don't see the problem here
9:27 AM - 21 Jan 2017

Michael Blackman @ParaComedian09
Richard Spencer did Nazi that punch coming.
6:15 PM - 20 Jan 2017 · Los Angeles, CA

Kara Calavera @KaraCalavera
Who said punching Nazis is wrong? Punching Nazis is the most 'Murican thing one can do. Captain America does it!

Erin Brr, sir @erinscafe
If you're having a conversation about whether or not it's okay to punch a Nazi, you're having the wrong conversation.

One person who disapproved of the attack? A longtime writer for the comic book hero Captain America, Nick Spencer. (He said he was not related to Richard Spencer.)

Nick Spencer ✔ @nickspencer
Today is difficult, but cheering violence against speech, even of the most detestable, disgusting variety, is not a look that will age well.

For the record, Richard Spencer says he is not a Nazi. In an interview on Saturday, he said he was a member of the alt-right, which he calls “identity politics for white Americans and for Europeans around the world.”

How is that different from Nazism? Nazism is “a historical term” that “is not going to resonate today,” he said.

“German National Socialism is a historic movement of the past,” Mr. Spencer said. “It arose at a very particular time and had particular motives and ideas and policies and styles, and those aren’t mine.”

Mr. Spencer said he was worried about being attacked again.

“I don’t think I could go out to an inauguration event without bodyguards or a protest or a conference,” he said. “I am more worried about going out to dinner on an average Tuesday because these kind of people are roaming around.”

On Periscope, Mr. Spencer also expressed concern about the spread of the footage of the attack online.

“I’m afraid this is going to become the meme to end all memes,” he said. “That I’m going to hate watching this.”

Post a New Response

(1414406)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by ntrainride on Mon Jan 23 01:46:40 2017, in response to Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 01:21:19 2017.

a pussy who hits and then runs away like a little schoolgirl? no, that person is not a hero. so if the next action of the person hit would be to smash a brick into the hitters face, perfectly justified.

Post a New Response

(1414409)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 01:56:53 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by ntrainride on Mon Jan 23 01:46:40 2017.

Figures that you would condemn a hero who is giving Nazis what is coming to them.

Post a New Response

(1414413)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by SLRT on Mon Jan 23 06:02:21 2017, in response to Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 01:21:19 2017.

More Love Trumps Hate.

Post a New Response

(1414423)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Jan 23 08:04:11 2017, in response to Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 01:21:19 2017.

Spencer is subhuman and should either be killed or forced to convert to Judaism. I'd pay to see the rabbi stick a needle up his dick.

Hitler wrote the playbook on how to deal with the Alt-Right. So did FDR. If anyone demographic should be put in camps, it is them.

Post a New Response

(1414434)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 09:39:59 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Jan 23 08:04:11 2017.

Fuck you. Being Jewish is an honor unworthy of you or of Spencer. And you would denigrate Jewish tradition while claiming to be pro-Jewish? GFY and DIAF.

Post a New Response

(1414436)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 23 09:47:34 2017, in response to Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 01:21:19 2017.

Why do you want people to assault you?

Post a New Response

(1414437)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 23 09:48:03 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Jan 23 08:04:11 2017.

Why do you want people to assault you?

Post a New Response

(1414568)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon Jan 23 14:27:29 2017, in response to Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 01:21:19 2017.

Democrats may not be human, but I wouldn't punch one. Might get infected with all sorts of STD's.

Post a New Response

(1414573)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Louis Farrakhan?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 14:41:38 2017, in response to Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 01:21:19 2017.

corrected

Post a New Response

(1414574)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to AssaultHuey P. Newton and Bobby Seale ?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 14:43:09 2017, in response to Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 01:21:19 2017.

corrected

Post a New Response

(1414576)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Malcom X ?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 14:45:23 2017, in response to Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 01:21:19 2017.

corrected

Post a New Response

(1414577)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Smaz?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 14:46:15 2017, in response to Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 01:21:19 2017.

corrected

Post a New Response

(1414578)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Malcom X?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 14:48:07 2017, in response to Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 01:21:19 2017.

corrected correctly

Post a New Response

(1414579)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale ?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 14:48:33 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to AssaultHuey P. Newton and Bobby Seale ?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 14:43:09 2017.

oops

Post a New Response

(1414580)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Quanell X ?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 14:49:20 2017, in response to Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 01:21:19 2017.

corrected

Post a New Response

(1414590)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to AssaultHuey P. Newton and Bobby Seale ?

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jan 23 15:57:22 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to AssaultHuey P. Newton and Bobby Seale ?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 14:43:09 2017.

???

Post a New Response

(1414591)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Louis Farrakhan?

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jan 23 15:58:10 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Louis Farrakhan?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 14:41:38 2017.

he is a hypocrite anyway
what happens to him does not matter


Post a New Response

(1414592)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Malcom X?

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jan 23 15:58:27 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Malcom X?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 14:48:07 2017.

??

Post a New Response

(1414593)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Quanell X ?

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jan 23 15:58:43 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Quanell X ?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 14:49:20 2017.

??

Post a New Response

(1414594)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Malcom X ?

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jan 23 16:14:05 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Malcom X ?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 14:45:23 2017.

??

Post a New Response

(1414597)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Malcolm X?

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 23 17:41:35 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Malcom X?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 14:48:07 2017.

"Malcolm" has two Ls.

Post a New Response

(1414599)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to AssaultHuey P. Newton and Bobby Seale ?

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 19:15:40 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to AssaultHuey P. Newton and Bobby Seale ?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 14:43:09 2017.

It figures that you'd defend Nazis with such weak comparisons.

How's it like to be a kapo? You think it'll save you?

Post a New Response

(1414600)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Malcolm X?

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Jan 23 19:18:01 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Malcolm X?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 23 17:41:35 2017.

Thanks, but so what?

Post a New Response

(1414601)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale ?

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Jan 23 19:19:59 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to AssaultHuey P. Newton and Bobby Seale ?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 19:15:40 2017.

And it figures you would defend the black panthers, who are worse.

Post a New Response

(1414602)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Louis Farrakhan?

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Jan 23 19:21:07 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Louis Farrakhan?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jan 23 15:58:10 2017.

Who is your leader?

Post a New Response

(1414603)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Louis Farrakhan?

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jan 23 19:23:15 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Louis Farrakhan?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Jan 23 19:21:07 2017.

messenger elijah muhammad (pbuh)
supreme minister john muhammad (pbuh)

farrakhan can die for all we care

Post a New Response

(1414604)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Louis Farrakhan?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 19:44:19 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Louis Farrakhan?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jan 23 19:23:15 2017.

I know elijah muhammad is dean, what about john Muhammad?

Post a New Response

(1414605)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Louis Farrakhan?

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jan 23 19:48:03 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Louis Farrakhan?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 19:44:19 2017.

his blood and spiritual brother

Post a New Response

(1414606)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Louis Farrakhan?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 19:51:36 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Louis Farrakhan?, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jan 23 19:48:03 2017.

You can't answer a simple yes or no question?

Post a New Response

(1414607)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault SMAZ ?

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 19:54:52 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to AssaultHuey P. Newton and Bobby Seale ?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 19:15:40 2017.

More justified than Richard Spencer.

Post a New Response

(1414608)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Louis Farrakhan?

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jan 23 19:55:59 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Louis Farrakhan?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 19:51:36 2017.

what do you want
explain please

Post a New Response

(1414610)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale ?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 20:48:40 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale ?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Jan 23 19:19:59 2017.

Worse than Nazis? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING?

Post a New Response

(1414623)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Malcolm X?

Posted by displaced angeleno on Tue Jan 24 00:30:08 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Malcolm X?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Jan 23 19:18:01 2017.

He was merely pointing out your spelling error. It had no bearing on your point, but since correctness is next to godliness...

Post a New Response

(1414628)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Máel Coluim X?

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 24 00:47:25 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Malcolm X?, posted by displaced angeleno on Tue Jan 24 00:30:08 2017.

Maybe I should have used the Scots Gaelic spelling.

Post a New Response

(1414639)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by Dave on Tue Jan 24 07:44:39 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by Scrabbleship on Mon Jan 23 08:04:11 2017.

Take the gas pipe, boy.

Post a New Response

(1414643)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by Scrabbleship on Tue Jan 24 07:56:54 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 09:39:59 2017.

Non-Jews are inferior beings. I'd rather him and his minions be sent to a camp and treated the exact same way they made millions suffer.

Post a New Response

(1414644)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by ntrainride on Tue Jan 24 08:12:15 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 09:39:59 2017.

following any "belief system", which in reality, at their core is us coming up with any number of stories to explain how everything got here, and which there can never be a "correct" answer, has nothing to do with "honor".

chick who hugs a tree is the same as a christian, jew, moslem, buddist...all the same.

Post a New Response

(1414649)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 24 10:00:36 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by ntrainride on Tue Jan 24 08:12:15 2017.

chick who hugs a tree is the same as a christian, jew, moslem, budd[h]ist

You're talking out of your toches this AM.

Forgot that the USSR and Red China were/are officially atheist?

Post a New Response

(1414650)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 24 10:04:43 2017, in response to Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 01:21:19 2017.

If only enough Italians and Germans had done this in the 20's and 30's

Yeah right. Ever heard of a document called the Reichskonkordat? It's still in force today, in fact. And who was it that legitimized Benito? Oh yeah, Pius XI. You're way out of context.

That said, I did see the video of what happened to Spencer. That POS wants to be a martyr for his DNC cause.

Post a New Response

(1414679)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 24 12:13:29 2017, in response to Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jan 23 01:21:19 2017.

Depends if they're Illinois Nazis.

Post a New Response

(1414684)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 24 12:51:57 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 24 12:13:29 2017.

Then the ACLU says "hands off".

Post a New Response

(1414686)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 24 12:54:37 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by Scrabbleship on Tue Jan 24 07:56:54 2017.

Non-Jews are inferior beings

So all the other tribes of Israel are inferior to Judah?

Post a New Response

(1414689)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 24 13:03:20 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 24 12:54:37 2017.

Are hobbits inferior to dwarves?

Post a New Response

(1414707)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by ntrainride on Tue Jan 24 14:30:23 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jan 23 09:39:59 2017.

following any "belief system", which in reality, at their core is us coming up with any number of stories to explain how everything got here, and which there can never be a "correct" answer, has nothing to do with "honor".

chick who hugs a tree is the same as a christian, jew, moslem, buddist...all the same.

Post a New Response

(1414711)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 24 14:34:50 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Neo-Nazis?, posted by ntrainride on Tue Jan 24 14:30:23 2017.

Why are you re-posting this hours later?

I don't agree with that. It's not a belief system alone, it's a community. I don't believe in any of the fake stories.

Post a New Response

(1414756)

view threaded

Re: Is It OK to Assault Louis Farrakhan?

Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Jan 24 17:11:05 2017, in response to Re: Is It OK to Assault Louis Farrakhan?, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Jan 23 14:41:38 2017.

I suppose so. Don't forget that incident with the secret service when Obama went "home" in Chicago a few years ago.

Post a New Response


[ Return to the Message Index ]