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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jan 17 11:37:32 2017, in response to Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 17 11:27:09 2017. huh ? |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 17 11:45:14 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Jan 17 11:37:32 2017. The left has demonstrated itself to be as intolerant as the right on differing opinions. |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 12:06:49 2017, in response to Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 17 11:27:09 2017. The reverse is true. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 17 12:08:56 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 12:06:49 2017. Absolutely. The Republicans have proven more than ever that they are the party of an angry, reactionary minority. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jan 17 12:15:45 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 17 12:08:56 2017. All the progressive minorities are happy. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 17 12:16:03 2017, in response to Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 17 11:27:09 2017. Huh?"The left" and "Democrats" are only partially overlapping sets of people. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 17 12:27:16 2017, in response to Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 17 11:27:09 2017. Excellent post. I knew there would be disappointment, and always knew the left was not tolerant at all, even though they claim to be. But I really never expected the spectacle they have put forth after losing. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 17 12:27:40 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 17 11:45:14 2017. They are even more intolerant actually. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 17 12:28:11 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 12:06:49 2017. It's not true at all. the left can not even remotely handle anyone or anything that does not agree with or stand in lockstep with their dogma or positions. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 17 12:28:35 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 17 12:08:56 2017. LOL!!! Have you even seen what is going on lately, the complete reverse is the case. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 12:28:52 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 17 11:45:14 2017. intolerant as the rightPlease explain what the "right" is intolerant of. And define what you mean by "right", because there are different meanings for different countries. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 12:29:46 2017, in response to Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 17 11:27:09 2017. When could they "credibly" claim such a thing? They had to pretend to not be the left, and they could barely do that. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 12:30:06 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 17 12:28:11 2017. That's always been the case. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 12:31:33 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 12:06:49 2017. You are a complete sicko if you believe that. And a traitor to whatever religion you might claim to believe in. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 17 12:32:55 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 17 12:28:11 2017. Which is total bullshit. The Republicans are so desperate to cling to power that they blocked a legitimate nomination to the Supreme Court so they could keep their majority there, they advocate "voter ID laws" whose sole purpose is to disenfranchise people who vote against them and they use gerrymandering. |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 12:37:32 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 17 12:28:11 2017. Yes, the left obviously does not tolerate foreign powers interfering with our elections.Yes, the left obviously does not tolerate attempts to subjugate the majority. Yes, the left obviously does not tolerate attempts to eliminate healthcare. How are these bad things? What decent position to you believe the left is being intolerant of? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 17 12:43:56 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 12:31:33 2017. LOL!Leave it to you to make it about religion. Also, I believe he is a follower of the one true "religion," i.e. the one "religion" whose claims about the universe are true. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jan 17 12:55:03 2017, in response to Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 17 11:27:09 2017. This post relieved OTChat of its torpor? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 13:20:29 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 17 12:43:56 2017. Too bad you're falling on the side of not making sense this time around. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 13:21:10 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 12:37:32 2017. More lies out of you. Everything is all about centralization and propaganda, right? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 13:29:25 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 17 12:32:55 2017. LOL! Total left-wing propaganda.There is no defense of the left. None whatsoever. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 17 13:32:14 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 12:37:32 2017. Oh yes, all the leftist talking points. |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 13:34:03 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 17 13:32:14 2017. When the right rejects any semblance of reality, basic fact becomes a leftist talking point. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 13:38:10 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 13:34:03 2017. And yet more leftist talking points. This one employing argumentum ad lapidem no less.What's defensible about abolition of private property, religion and the family, and centralization of everything in one massive government? Do explain that. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 17 13:39:44 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 13:34:03 2017. It's not reality. It's the lefts version of reality. |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 13:41:14 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 17 13:39:44 2017. So what is your disagreement with any of it?Why should any of what I believe most people consider to be basic rights be abridged? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 17 13:41:21 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 17 13:32:14 2017. What is the right's approach to allowing 20 million Americans who have recently managed to get health insurance to continue to have health insurance?If it's not "We'll cancel the current arrangements and then in a few years we'll figure out what to do next," let me know. I actually want to hear what their health care plan is. |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 13:41:59 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 13:38:10 2017. Nobody on the left is attempting to do any of those things, so they are wholly irrelevant. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jan 17 13:52:35 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 17 13:41:21 2017. Repeating the same talking point over and over doesn't make it true.Maybe you have a tiny bit of Joe Goebbels about you. You've at least convinced yourself. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 17 14:00:23 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by SLRT on Tue Jan 17 13:52:35 2017. Repeating the same talking point over and over doesn't make it true.OK. Then you tell me, what is the Republican plan to replace Obamacare. Their slogan is Repeal and Replace. Tell me about Replace. I actually want to know. I'm not particularly wedded to any of the provisions of Obamacare. I just want to know what will replace it. And if you can't tell me, what does that say about you and Goebbels? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 14:12:41 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 13:41:59 2017. Nobody on the left is attempting to do any of those thingsYou lie again. The left's philosophy is all about that and nothing else! |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 17 14:33:04 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 14:12:41 2017. LOL. |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 14:38:36 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 14:12:41 2017. Give an example. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 14:47:22 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 13:41:14 2017. You're heading into Nilet territory. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jan 17 14:47:50 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 17 14:00:23 2017. I can tell you that Trump has consistently said people would not go without health care. But you prefer your own reality. Maybe he should do the same as Nancy Pelosi with Obamacare: "After the bill is passed, we'll know what's in it." |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 14:48:24 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 14:38:36 2017. Government takeover of healthcare, just for one. There is only one reason for the government to take something over and that is to control it.Please don't act ignorant. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 14:49:39 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by SLRT on Tue Jan 17 14:47:50 2017. The only context they understand the word "healthcare" in is in single-payer federal control of same. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 17 14:50:42 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 14:38:36 2017. banning home schooling.mumbling about eliminating tax exempt status for religion. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 17 14:58:39 2017, in response to Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Jan 17 11:27:09 2017. This is how the Left operates! Agree with my opinion on EVERYTHING, or else! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 17 15:00:53 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jan 17 12:28:11 2017. Yep! Look at what they're doing to Steve Harvey. He met with Trump to try to come up with a solution to help the black community, but soley because he met with trump, now he's labeled a buckdancing coon! |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 15:02:18 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 14:48:24 2017. 1. Obamacare is not a government takeover of healthcare.2. There is a need to control it. Unregulated healthcare results in no healthcare for many. Neither the left nor the right has yet advocated the removal of governmental regulation of healthcare. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 17 15:02:39 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 17 12:32:55 2017. Why SHOULDN'T there be voter ID? It's always amazed me that I can stroll into my voting place, say my name, and just vote without me ever having to show that I am indeed who I say I am! |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 17 15:04:36 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by SLRT on Tue Jan 17 14:47:50 2017. But you prefer your own reality.I don't have a reality on this topic. I asked a question and I'm not getting an answer. "Wait and see" is an OK answer for only a short period of time until insurers start to walk away from the market. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 17 15:06:38 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 17 15:02:39 2017. You have to sign your name. They are supposed to compare your signature against the one on file. If you are impersonating someone and the real voter comes in later, there will be a big fuss. |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 15:07:57 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by SLRT on Tue Jan 17 14:47:50 2017. There are two ways for that to happen:1. Obamacare is maintained or strengthened. 2. Some form of single-payer is implemented. Assuming he doesn't want the former, I don't see how he gets the latter through congress. I suspect it is going to happen eventually, but certainly not with this congress. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jan 17 15:11:39 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 15:07:57 2017. That is not an exhaustive list of how this can be done. For example, the government can block grant aid to states to work on solutions that work best for their state. Removing barriers that make it impossible for health insurance companies to operate across state lines. There is no reason why my sister's health coverage in California should be 1/3 of the price of my coverage in New York for identical coverage. Those are just some examples. Instead, you believe that the only way things can improve is through stricter government control including telling religious organizations they have to go against their religious beliefs. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 15:14:05 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jan 17 15:11:39 2017. Instead, you believe that the only way things can improve is through stricter government control including telling religious organizations they have to go against their religious beliefs.So much for his denial of the left's goals. |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Jan 17 15:15:20 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jan 17 15:11:39 2017. Without the basic protections and subsidies for Obamacare, none of that actually provides healthcare for all. |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jan 17 15:16:09 2017, in response to Re: Best Thing to Come Out of the Election, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 17 12:28:52 2017. Women as fully capable equal human beings with equal freedoms to fully determine the course of their lives in every aspect. For one. |
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