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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 19 19:13:44 2016 Pretty fucking serious, and a VERY serious question as to Trump's qualification vetting. Don't let the door hit you on the ass, Michael. Good riddance! :(Senior U.S. officials recommend removal of NSA director: sources The heads of the Pentagon and the U.S. intelligence community have recommended to President Barack Obama that the director of the National Security Agency, Admiral Michael Rogers, be removed from his position, sources familiar with the matter said on Saturday. The recommendation by Defense Secretary Ash Carter and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, first reported by The Washington Post, was delivered to the White House last month. Obama chose Rogers to take over at the NSA in 2014 and tasked him with repairing the damage after the huge leaks about its electronic spying program by contractor Edward Snowden. But there have been other security lapses, the sources said, including the one that led to the arrest of NSA contractor Harold Martin earlier this year. Rogers is being considered as a potential new director of national intelligence by President-elect Donald Trump, a post that oversees all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies. The Washington Post reported that a decision by Rogers to travel to New York to meet with Trump on Thursday without notifying superiors caused consternation at senior levels of the administration, but the recommendation to remove him predated his visit. Rogers is head of both the National Security Agency and the U.S. military's Cyber Command. Carter was also disappointed with the Cyber Command's performance in the war against Islamic State, another source said. The White House, Pentagon, NSA and office of the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment on the matter. A Trump campaign spokesman had no immediate comment. The Obama administration wants to split leadership at the National Security Agency and Cyber Command, arguing that the job of leading two agencies with differing missions is too much for one person. But some members of Congress, led by Republican Senator John McCain, the Senate Armed Services Committee chairman, oppose that plan, saying that Cyber Command needs access to the NSA's resources to do its job effectively. (Reporting by Phil Stewart, John Walcott and Mark Hosenball and Patricia Zengerle, writing by Patricia Zengerle; Editing by Alistair Bell and Mary Milliken) |
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Re: Trump's new NSA Director: Not fired |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 19 20:12:40 2016, in response to Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 19 19:13:44 2016. You've never read "The Conscience of a Conservative". |
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Re: Not about Trump's new NSA director |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 19 20:16:30 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: Not fired, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 19 20:12:40 2016. And guess who lied about what the article was about. This is about Michael Rogers, Obama's NSA director. |
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Re: Trump's new NSA Director: Not fired |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 19 20:25:45 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: Not fired, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 19 20:12:40 2016. Sure did, but that world is dead.You voted for it. Congrats! |
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Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired! |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Nov 19 21:15:15 2016, in response to Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 19 19:13:44 2016. When did Trump announce Rogers was selected as his new NSA chief?I didn't think so. So why are you getting your bowels in an uproar about something that hasn't even happened yet? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 19 21:39:33 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by Dave on Sat Nov 19 21:15:15 2016. Since Reuters reported it.You've stopped the presses on Far less. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Nov 19 21:45:51 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 19 21:39:33 2016. Holy crap, you've gone full Bingbong: she lies and now you lie.Reuters reported that Rogers is the leading candidate for the director of national intelligence; they did not report he was Trump's selection for NSA Director: "Admiral Mike Rogers, director of the National Security Agency, is the leading candidate to serve as Trump's director of national intelligence, the Wall Street Journal reported." http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-idUSKBN13D1JE C'mon, man, I expected better than that from you. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 19 21:53:19 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by Dave on Sat Nov 19 21:45:51 2016. Sorry, bro ... if I got it wrong, my bad. A bit too busy with other things lately and none of this is important to me other than rubbing some noses in it right now.Bottom line here though, I know Rogers. If he's near ANYTHING, we're all in very serious shit. Trump's choices through and through are VERY dangerous and I sit in awe that so many bad choices are being made here. But then, what do I know? Right? :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 19 22:24:04 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by Dave on Sat Nov 19 21:15:15 2016. Here ... found the possible cross-threading - there WAS an article earlier today that made that claim, but it's gone now. This one still exists though:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-security-intelligence-idUSKBN13E0SF |
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Re: Obama's NSA Director: You're fired! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 19 22:42:14 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by Dave on Sat Nov 19 21:45:51 2016. C'mon, man, I expected better than that from youYou've missed about half his posts since the eighth of the month, then. He's gone double bingbong. You never go double bingbong. |
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Re: Obama's NSA Director: You're fired! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 19 22:47:32 2016, in response to Re: Obama's NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 19 22:42:14 2016. 
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Re: Obama's NSA Director: You're fired! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 19 23:09:39 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by Dave on Sat Nov 19 21:15:15 2016. That's not what the article's about. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Sat Nov 19 23:14:51 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by Dave on Sat Nov 19 21:45:51 2016. Bingbong seems to have learned much of her internet skills from Selcrap. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Nov 20 01:14:17 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by Dave on Sat Nov 19 21:45:51 2016. C'mon, man, I expected better than that from you.You do? Why? 12+ years of evidence to the contrary wasn't enough for you? It's all in the archives. He's wrong very often. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Nov 20 14:43:31 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 19 21:53:19 2016. FWIW, I'm no fan of Rogers, either. Too much bad shit went down during his watch. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Nov 20 14:46:30 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 19 22:24:04 2016. Unless the copy was changed it reads:"Rogers is being considered as a potential new director of national intelligence by President-elect Donald Trump, a post that oversees all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies." He currently is the Director of the NSA but is being considered by Trump for a new position. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Nov 20 14:50:45 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by Dave on Sun Nov 20 14:46:30 2016. I wouldn't be surprised if Clapper or someone leaked the idea of Rogers getting fired as a way to put pressure on Trump not to appoint him to another post. Trump probably wouldn't want to hire a guy who might be about to be fired by Obama for alleged incompetence. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Nov 20 16:03:08 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by AlM on Sun Nov 20 14:50:45 2016. A distinct possibility. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 20 17:11:46 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by Dave on Sun Nov 20 14:43:31 2016. You have NO idea. The publicly-known parts were bad enough, he caused a LOT of talent to walk out the door, and the damage that he did to a certain Middle Eastern ally of ours may never get completely fixed. The damage that he did to DIA in particular after Snowden was very severe. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Nov 20 17:22:52 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by AlM on Sun Nov 20 14:50:45 2016. You're allowing for better judgment than may actually apply. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 20 17:25:32 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by AlM on Sun Nov 20 14:50:45 2016. Or maybe, just maybe, Trump and his minions are actually THAT clueless.Maybe Melania can make a deal to trade once of Putin's FSB dewds for some cubic zirconia. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 20 17:25:58 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 20 17:25:32 2016. "once" should have been "one" ... whoops! |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Nov 20 17:48:55 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 20 17:11:46 2016. I personally know one person who quit the NSA while Rogers was in charge. He couldn't say much but did say he didn't believe that upper management was dedicated to improving the processes by which they operated. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 20 18:02:40 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by AlM on Sun Nov 20 17:48:55 2016. If you're in it, you can't even talk about the color of the toilet paper in the lavatory, so no surprise there. One of the reasons why the Russkies are all over our stuff is because of the gross incompetence, the buddy system with aerospace vendors and telecom vendors who have replaced the folks who actually know how computer security works and were in there doing it since the 1980's.One of the reasons why Apple and I were very happy to work together, sidestepping all that stupid. A LOT of people are no longer in the business of watching out for America now - Verizon and Oracle and Grumman are doing that now, and the daily break-in reports bear witness to our complete lack of cyber security. It's all about the vendors. :( |
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Posted by Dave on Sun Nov 20 21:53:16 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 20 17:25:32 2016. Yeah, so clueless that he's President-Elect. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 20 22:00:26 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by Dave on Sun Nov 20 21:53:16 2016. We credit y'all for THAT.Bothers the shit out of me though being unable to talk about what I know happened here. And even if I retired, I can't. For 25 years minimum. :( |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 20 22:51:16 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by Dave on Sun Nov 20 21:53:16 2016. And of course, the polls that predicted his win were "lethally flawed" while all the ones predicting the wrong result were not. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 20 22:54:10 2016, in response to Re: Trump's new NSA Director: You're fired!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 20 22:00:26 2016.  |
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