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Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by Allan on Thu Oct 20 19:12:51 2016

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only if he wins.


What a schmuck!!

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 20 19:38:10 2016, in response to Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Allan on Thu Oct 20 19:12:51 2016.

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Isn't that the GOP though? Look at how they acted in 2008


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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Oct 20 19:41:25 2016, in response to Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Allan on Thu Oct 20 19:12:51 2016.

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How Democrat of him.

When they lose an election they want a do over like in Wisconsin.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Oct 20 19:41:54 2016, in response to Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Allan on Thu Oct 20 19:12:51 2016.

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Bigger sore loser than Al Gore.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 20 20:36:57 2016, in response to Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Allan on Thu Oct 20 19:12:51 2016.

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only if he wins

He didn't say "only". And he said more than that, besides.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Oct 20 21:00:22 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 20 19:38:10 2016.

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Trump was a Democrat in 2008

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 20 21:07:24 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Oct 20 21:00:22 2016.

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I was a Republican in 2012 and 2016. BFD.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Oct 21 00:25:04 2016, in response to Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Allan on Thu Oct 20 19:12:51 2016.

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LOLOL!!

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 21 07:01:07 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Oct 20 21:07:24 2016.

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Then it's not "the GOP"

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 21 08:10:12 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Oct 21 07:01:07 2016.

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So? They haven't changed in 2008. Donald Trump just joined them in their bullshit.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by Joe V on Fri Oct 21 19:24:17 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 21 08:10:12 2016.

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Escept he is to the Left of the GOP on "Free Trade". When a Republican gets attacked from the Right by a Democrat, the Republican does not fare very well. Do Remember what Joe Lieberman (D) did to Lowell Weicker (R).

Trump will simply say and do whatever to get him power. I don't think he has any commitments to anybody but himself.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 21 20:15:43 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Joe V on Fri Oct 21 19:24:17 2016.

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I don't remember that. I first heard of Lieberman in 2000.

I am far to the "right" of Trump on free trade.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Oct 22 05:33:45 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Joe V on Fri Oct 21 19:24:17 2016.

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I can list several issues where Ms. Clinton has done the same. For example, she was against same sex marriage and now she is for it. She was for the Iraq war and now she was against it. So your criticism of Trump will fit Clinton equally well. Of course it's one thing to have a president who's position may evolve over time or do you want one who has a public position and a private one, depending on the audience.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by Joe V on Sat Oct 22 07:05:56 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Oct 22 05:33:45 2016.

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True about the Iraq war. But the sentiment was so strong pro-war, based on bad intelligence, that it was hard to say no. I remember some stupid effort to re-label French Fries to "Freedom Fries" out of contempt for France for not backing us on the Iraq war.

It was also very difficult for anyone to be pro-Gay marriage 10 - 15 years ago without being labeled a fringe candidate.

I don't really car about public/private opinion difference. I will judge by their voting record and don't care if they grit their teeth, go home, and kick the cat over it. Abortion is privately opposed by Harry Reid, Joe Biden, Tim Kaine, and Mario Cuomo due to their religion, but they a are careful not to legislate their religion. Protestants feared JFK as a Catholic, with the Pope dictating his social policies. But now the Fundamenalists are trying to do exactly what they feared the Catholics would do - legislate their faith.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by Joe V on Sat Oct 22 07:13:06 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Oct 21 20:15:43 2016.

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Democrat and Republican did not mean Liberal and Conservative. There were Liberal Republicans (Lowell Weicker- the last of them, Rockefeller, Javits), and there were Conservative Democrats (Lieberman, Southern Democrats).

The horrible racist and Democrat George Wallace had nothing in common with the Kennedy's, and they were different in a lot of ways from LBJ. MLK was a Republican.

I am fine with NAFTA with Canada, but not Mexico. No CAFTA, and I think TPP would be abused as well. I don't trust corporate America to benefit Main Street America, just Wall Street, and their short-term focus.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by alm on Sat Oct 22 07:19:29 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Joe V on Sat Oct 22 07:05:56 2016.

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There's nothing wrong with changing one's opinion on Iraq. The information changed. Colin Powell assured us Saddam was developing nuclear weapons. We believed him.

On abortion, nothing has changed to justify a fllip from women have a right to choose to they should be punished.



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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by Joe V on Sat Oct 22 07:24:09 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by alm on Sat Oct 22 07:19:29 2016.

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Trump was the one saying women should be punished, but that is not the position of the Pro-Lifers (Cruz, Pence, Rubio, etc). He probably thought he was impressing the Evangelicals.

Trump is such a pandering idiot, he does not understand the issues of the positions he has flipped on.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 22 09:55:09 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Joe V on Sat Oct 22 07:13:06 2016.

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I support NAFTA.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Oct 22 10:52:19 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Joe V on Sat Oct 22 07:24:09 2016.

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but that is not the position of the Pro-Lifers (Cruz, Pence, Rubio, etc)

That's because those phonies are fine with having Murder go completely unpunished.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Oct 22 10:56:02 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by alm on Sat Oct 22 07:19:29 2016.

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So you believe that Colin Powell lied about Saddam having WMDs and not that he was victimized by faulty intelligence?

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by Joe V on Sat Oct 22 10:59:51 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Joe V on Sat Oct 22 07:13:06 2016.

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Opposing NAFTA is probably why Trump will win Ohio and retain Indiana, (unlike 2008).

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by Joe V on Sat Oct 22 11:00:59 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Oct 22 10:56:02 2016.

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I do not know what Powell believed at the time.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by MTK52983 on Sat Oct 22 11:40:25 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Oct 22 10:56:02 2016.

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I don't get that reaction at all from Al's statement. Colin Powell was victimized by faulty intelligence and it is acceptable to change positions based on later learning that the intelligence was faulty.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by MTK52983 on Sat Oct 22 11:41:50 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Joe V on Sat Oct 22 07:13:06 2016.

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I disagree with CAFTA and TPP for different reasons. I do not trust foreign countries to play by the rules.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 22 11:52:12 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by SMAZ on Sat Oct 22 10:52:19 2016.

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Abortion lowers crime.



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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 22 11:53:09 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Joe V on Sat Oct 22 07:24:09 2016.

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Arent you evangelical?

Abortion lowers crime.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Oct 22 11:55:35 2016, in response to Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Allan on Thu Oct 20 19:12:51 2016.

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iawtp !!
right o

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by Joe V on Sat Oct 22 12:31:04 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 22 11:53:09 2016.

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Nope. But am pro-choice thru 1st 3 months.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 22 12:58:53 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 22 11:53:09 2016.

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Abortion lowers crime

Thanks for LiberalFreakonomicsattacking. Time to let go of that lie.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by alm on Sat Oct 22 14:08:12 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by MTK52983 on Sat Oct 22 11:41:50 2016.

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That's why reasonably written trade agreements have adjudication procedures.


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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by alm on Sat Oct 22 14:10:16 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by MTK52983 on Sat Oct 22 11:40:25 2016.

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Yes, Powell was the messenger. But because he too believed the falsehoods he was very convincing.



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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 22 14:28:21 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by alm on Sat Oct 22 14:10:16 2016.

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Especially as Colin Powell was very well respected.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Oct 22 22:33:54 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Joe V on Sat Oct 22 12:31:04 2016.

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I'm pro-death! Kill the criminals, kill the kid!

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by TerrApin Station on Sat Oct 22 23:39:34 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Oct 22 14:28:21 2016.

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Exactly.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Oct 23 09:23:46 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Oct 22 11:52:12 2016.

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That doesn't change the fact that Cruz, Pence and Rubio believe that Murder should go unpunished.

When Trump said that women should be punished for murdering their babies, he was the first pro-life politician in American history to give a coherent response to what the consequences of such actions should be.

And we was ASSAILED by the so-called "pro-lifers" for saying it.

That's all you need to know about how full of shit those people really are.



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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by AlM on Sun Oct 23 09:31:51 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by SMAZ on Sun Oct 23 09:23:46 2016.

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Of course, the real position of Cruz, Pence, and Rubio is that states should be able to deny abortions to low income women. That's what revocation of Roe v. Wade would mean.





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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Oct 23 09:44:21 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by AlM on Sun Oct 23 09:31:51 2016.

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Cruz, Pence and Rubio's positions are not based on federalism.

They believe that abortion is murder.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by AlM on Sun Oct 23 10:10:25 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by SMAZ on Sun Oct 23 09:44:21 2016.

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They say that they believe that abortion is murder.

But the legal change they actually propose is to allow states to prevent poor women from having an abortion.


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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 23 14:36:34 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by AlM on Sun Oct 23 10:10:25 2016.

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Walker and Rubio want no exceptions for abortions including rape, incest, or life of mother.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by AlM on Sun Oct 23 14:51:05 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 23 14:36:34 2016.

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But they aren't proposing to ban abortions nationwide, just to allow states to ban them. So higher income people can just travel to another state that allows abortions.

So what they are proposing is to allow states to prevent low income women from having abortions (at least legal ones).



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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 23 15:18:32 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by AlM on Sun Oct 23 14:51:05 2016.

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Before Row v, Wade, those with money got illegal abortions.

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Re: Donald says he will accept election results

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Oct 23 15:34:34 2016, in response to Re: Donald says he will accept election results, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 23 15:18:32 2016.

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the well to do

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