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Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap.

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Oct 19 12:47:24 2016, in response to Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Oct 18 19:47:13 2016.

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I think (and I could be wrong) that ftgreeng is talking actual numbers, while you are talking percentages.

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Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 19 13:19:55 2016, in response to Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap., posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Oct 19 12:47:24 2016.

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Percentages are the more useful metric. Using absolute numbers is a great way to obfuscate.

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Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap.

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 19 14:08:30 2016, in response to Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap., posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Oct 19 09:24:29 2016.

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that is generally correct. So the poverty thing is also not exactly a correlation

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Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap.

Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Oct 19 14:52:34 2016, in response to Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap., posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 19 13:19:55 2016.

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And i said poverty plays a big factor too.


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Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 19 15:11:46 2016, in response to Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap., posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Oct 19 14:52:34 2016.

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It does. However, you don't see the same high levels of crime in poor white areas. Again, those FBI stats are sobering. For Black and White crime levels to be equal, white crime would need to be 6 times that of Blacks, as Whites outnumber Blacks 6 to 1 in population. Some like murder are even, that's stagering, as that means Blacks are 6 times more likely to commit murder. Some are only doubled, that means Blacks are 3 times as likely to commit those crimes. The ONLY crimes I see on the list that are equal between Blacks and whites (meaning white crime of that category is about 6 times that of blacks), is Alcohol related crimes. That means that Blacks and whites seem to commit those crimes almost equally, but those are the only ones that Blacks don't have a higher level based on population.

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Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap.

Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Oct 19 15:40:02 2016, in response to Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 19 15:11:46 2016.

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From https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5137. (Actually hispanics don't follow the trend in a good way)

'For the period 2008–12—
Persons in poor households at or below the Federal Poverty Level (FPL) (39.8 per 1,000) had more than double the rate of violent victimization as persons in high-income households (16.9 per 1,000).
Persons in poor households had a higher rate of violence involving a firearm (3.5 per 1,000) compared to persons above the FPL (0.8–2.5 per 1,000).
The overall pattern of poor persons having the highest rates of violent victimization was consistent for both whites and blacks. However, the rate of violent victimization for Hispanics did not vary across poverty levels.
Poor Hispanics (25.3 per 1,000) had lower rates of violence compared to poor whites (46.4 per 1,000) and poor blacks (43.4 per 1,000).
Poor persons living in urban areas (43.9 per 1,000) had violent victimization rates similar to poor persons living in rural areas (38.8 per 1,000).
Poor urban blacks (51.3 per 1,000) had rates of violence similar to poor urban whites (56.4 per 1,000).'

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Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 19 15:45:21 2016, in response to Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap., posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Oct 19 15:40:02 2016.

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No one was disagreeing that poverty has something correlation. But that doesn't change the general statistics, that Black crime levels are much higher than white crime levels, considering population. See the FBI Link.

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Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 19 15:56:11 2016, in response to Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 19 15:45:21 2016.

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oh i see '''all the black people are doing ALL the crime and they are doing it all the time''' !!!!

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Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap.

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Oct 19 15:59:08 2016, in response to Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap., posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Oct 19 15:40:02 2016.

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You keep saying urban.

Look at Wyandanch and Newburgh.

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Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 19 16:00:18 2016, in response to Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap., posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Oct 19 15:40:02 2016.

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I'm confused. Doesn't "victimization" mean the rate at which people are VICTIMS rather than PERPETRATORS?

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Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap.

Posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Oct 19 17:03:50 2016, in response to Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap., posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 19 16:00:18 2016.

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Actually they alternate between victimization and rates of violence.

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Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap.

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 19 17:08:11 2016, in response to Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 19 15:56:11 2016.

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Not at all, who said that?

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Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap.

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 19 17:09:38 2016, in response to Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap., posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Oct 19 16:00:18 2016.

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Wow, good catch, yes his quote is about victims, not perpetrators

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Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap.

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Oct 19 17:10:43 2016, in response to Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 19 15:56:11 2016.

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I wish Mr Mabstoa would participate.

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Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 19 19:42:24 2016, in response to Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap., posted by LuchAAA on Wed Oct 19 17:10:43 2016.

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so glad he is gone !
lol

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Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Oct 19 19:42:42 2016, in response to Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Oct 19 17:08:11 2016.

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yeah !
ok

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Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 20 08:35:16 2016, in response to Re: George Zimmerman single handedly proves the concept of karma is a load of crap., posted by ftgreeneg on Wed Oct 19 17:03:50 2016.

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No, it's about victims of crime.

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