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Posted by Dave on Mon Oct 17 17:43:09 2016 Phila. area faces hefty increases in Affordable Care Act rates |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 17 17:48:47 2016, in response to "Thank you," Mr. President, posted by Dave on Mon Oct 17 17:43:09 2016. What were the rates on the exchanges before Obama became president? |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Oct 17 19:32:37 2016, in response to Re: ''Thank you,'' Mr. President, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Oct 17 17:48:47 2016. We just swept those people under the rug except when they appear at the ER and ICU, and we paid for their healthcare at that point out of our premiums in the most expensive way possible, with no regard to preventive care, which is far cheaper.That's why my private health care premiums have gone up only 4% per year since ACA came around. While the deductible increased from $300 to $500, there is now 0% co-pay on my annual physical. My recent Shingles and Flu vaccinations also cost $0 out of pocket. Prevention is cheaper than treatment. The actuaries know what they are doing. The ACA problem affects mostly the 15% of those on ACA who are just above the subsidy line. They should be put on Medicare. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Oct 17 21:31:51 2016, in response to Re: ''Thank you,'' Mr. President, posted by Joe V on Mon Oct 17 19:32:37 2016. Did your co-pay for medicines go up? What about your max out of pocket before insurance pays 100% of medical bills; has that gone up? |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Oct 18 18:18:04 2016, in response to Re: ''Thank you,'' Mr. President, posted by Dave on Mon Oct 17 21:31:51 2016. My Rx prices, all generics, are headed south. For 3 of them, I think I am just paying for the bottle or postage, in the $3 - $6 range per 90 days, about 1/4 the price of heading to a brick and mortar drug store.Max out of pocket is around $3,500. Yes it goes up every few years. I know you are looking for a reason to kill Obamacare, but you will not find it with my experience. |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Oct 18 22:26:45 2016, in response to Re: ''Thank you,'' Mr. President, posted by Joe V on Tue Oct 18 18:18:04 2016. Many generics have gone up in price substantially so I'm surprised yours have gone down. For example, hydroxychloroquine (a generic available for almost two decades) is used to treat rheumatoid arthritis. Two years ago 180 pills cost $35. Today it costs $500. I've taken levothyroxine, the generic form of Synthroid, for years. A few years ago a 90 supply used to cost me $10. Now it costs almost $30.Your max out of pocket is only $3,500? WOW! I'm in a BCBS PPO and this year it rose from $6,000 in 2015 to $10,000 in 2016...and our premiums still went up. Are you in a HMO or PPO? |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Oct 18 23:27:03 2016, in response to Re: ''Thank you,'' Mr. President, posted by Dave on Tue Oct 18 22:26:45 2016. The price increases sound like a problem with the pharmaceutical companies (see "EpiPen"). |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 18 23:42:15 2016, in response to Re: ''Thank you,'' Mr. President, posted by Dave on Tue Oct 18 22:26:45 2016. Many generics have gone up in price substantially so I'm surprised yours have gone downForeign manufacture? |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Oct 19 07:22:08 2016, in response to Re: ''Thank you,'' Mr. President, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Oct 18 23:42:15 2016. Depends on which drug. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Oct 19 07:25:26 2016, in response to Re: ''Thank you,'' Mr. President, posted by 3-9 on Tue Oct 18 23:27:03 2016. Yup. As more drugs go generic the pharm companies make less money, so they start raising prices on the generics. And then you have companies like Valeant. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 19 07:38:04 2016, in response to Re: ''Thank you,'' Mr. President, posted by 3-9 on Tue Oct 18 23:27:03 2016. That's gouging (utter corruption too), and that's no generic. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 19 15:38:49 2016, in response to Re: ''Thank you,'' Mr. President, posted by Dave on Tue Oct 18 22:26:45 2016. PPO |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 19 15:47:17 2016, in response to Re: ''Thank you,'' Mr. President, posted by 3-9 on Tue Oct 18 23:27:03 2016. Epi-pen happened because a CEO was a fucking scumbag, not because of Obamacare. To be expected because Pharmas and insurance companies wrote the law and banned Canadian Rx mail orders. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Oct 19 15:59:37 2016, in response to Re: ''Thank you,'' Mr. President, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 19 15:38:49 2016. Which company? |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Oct 19 16:01:02 2016, in response to Re: ''Thank you,'' Mr. President, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 19 15:47:17 2016. Yeah, it is a hole in the ACA. As costs balloon, it squeezes the insurance companies, which either squeezes consumers, or forces out the insurance companies. Unfortunately, it's not going to get closed at this rate. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 19 19:23:45 2016, in response to Re: ''Thank you,'' Mr. President, posted by Dave on Wed Oct 19 15:59:37 2016. UHC |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Oct 19 21:41:39 2016, in response to Re: ''Thank you,'' Mr. President, posted by Joe V on Wed Oct 19 19:23:45 2016. Impressive. |
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