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21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Sep 28 17:49:31 2016 Here |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Sep 28 18:10:00 2016, in response to 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SMAZ on Wed Sep 28 17:49:31 2016. Hilarious even though it wasn't meant to be. He batted 0%.The only thing that bothers me is where he says he was on line for two decades. It was dated 1995. I seriously doubt he was on line in 1975. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Sep 28 18:41:36 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Sep 28 18:10:00 2016. He batted 0%.No he didn't. All of these statements are partially true: no CD-ROM can take the place of a competent teacher. Every voice can be heard cheaply and instantly. The result? Every voice is heard. The cacophany more closely resembles citizens band radio, complete with handles, harrasment, and anonymous threats. You don't know what to ignore and what's worth reading. We're told that multimedia will make schoolwork easy and fun. Students will happily learn from animated characters while taught by expertly tailored software.Who needs teachers when you've got computer-aided education? Bah. No interactive multimedia display comes close to the excitement of a live concert. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Sep 28 18:50:23 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by AlM on Wed Sep 28 18:41:36 2016. You don't know what to ignore and what's worth reading.As opposed to what? Walking into a library or a Barnes & Nobles? No interactive multimedia display comes close to the excitement of a live concert. The web displaced radio and the recording industry, not live concerts. Radio and records themselves never displaced live concerts. This guy just saw it all wrong. He pretty much batted .000 |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Sep 28 21:16:49 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Sep 28 18:10:00 2016. The only thing that bothers me is where he says he was on line for two decades. It was dated 1995. I seriously doubt he was on line in 1975.Oh, it's very possible. He was likely around when ARPAnet was connecting military sites and universities, and was probably one of the lucky few who could do more over the Net than just email. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 28 22:16:24 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by 3-9 on Wed Sep 28 21:16:49 2016. There were also early dialup BBS', online services such as DIALOG, GEnie, TYMNET, Telenet, SDC Search, BRS (Bibliographic Retrieval Service) and a raft of others available. Lexis started back then, and libraries offered timeshare access. Ham radio operators also provided access to computers and interconnections through radio as well as phone patches to the public. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 22:23:15 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 28 22:16:24 2016. In 1975? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 28 22:31:36 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SMAZ on Wed Sep 28 18:50:23 2016. He was right about the cacophony. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 28 22:43:57 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 22:23:15 2016. 1972 and onward ... when the first "personal computer build it yourself kits" started taking off. Got my first in 1974. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 28 22:46:14 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 22:23:15 2016. Here's a little bit of confirmation on a fast search:https://books.google.com/books?id=LTTvmUU8rskC&pg=PA279&lpg=PA279&dq=1970%27s+%22online+services%22&source=bl&ots=m6yPJcp28h&sig=LdRisxCk2YFVWWduZRVziwe9dng&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj335X-v7PPAhXH5yYKHR9DAacQ6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=1970%27s%20%22online%20services%22&f=false |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 28 23:08:16 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by 3-9 on Wed Sep 28 21:16:49 2016. A man who was tracking down hackers in 1986 would certainly have had that kind of access. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Wed Sep 28 23:17:23 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 28 22:46:14 2016. I believe you. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 29 02:31:56 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 28 22:43:57 2016. Hey welcome back. I missed you. Hope all is well. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 29 10:36:24 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 28 23:08:16 2016. A man who was tracking down hackers in 19861986!!! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 12:16:09 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 29 02:31:56 2016. Hey, guy! Yeah, just taking a break from the negativity and insanity. If there's something new and interesting, I'll be around for it. :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 29 12:48:05 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 12:16:09 2016. Yeah, just taking a break from the negativity and insanitySo you vow never to create any more of it? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 13:26:26 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 29 12:48:05 2016. When you and a few others stop, perhaps. Thanks for being a part of the problem. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 29 13:33:51 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 13:26:26 2016. Olog? Negative? He's the best source of humor in this whole place! He's funny ultra-right-wing, as opposed to R2. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 13:58:24 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 29 13:33:51 2016. Well yeah, but the fact that there's people out there like Olog does have its depressing moments too. I still kinda believe in evolution. :) |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 29 14:21:09 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 28 22:43:57 2016. Yup, there were some surprisingly interesting BBS's that could run on just an 8-bit computer and floppy disk drives. Later BBS's could tap into a couple of Internet things, but full blown, publicly accessible Internet services didn't come around the late 80's (Big Electric Cat, Dorsai Embassy, one or 2 others). |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 14:29:54 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 29 14:21:09 2016. FIDONet, man!I wrote a BBS in the early 80's and ran it for 15 years on a TI-99/4A in TI Basic on a dare with 4 floppy drives that ate disks for lunch. The TI was such an underpowered computer, I just had to try it out and it worked. It was based on Citadel BBS and actually worked well. I eventually migrated it to MSDOS 3 on an 8088 machine in 1987. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 29 14:46:50 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 14:29:54 2016. Oh boy, I totally forgot about FIDONet! Looking it up, it mentioned that it could interchange mail with the Internet, which is what I remembered. Also mentioned BITNET and LISTSERVs, other things I haven't heard in a long time. But since BEC came out, I've been Unix almost all the way, for my Internet access. Even in those days, porn (from ftp sites) was a big deal. :-) |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 29 14:48:11 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 13:58:24 2016. I still kinda believe in evolution. :)There goes your negativity again! :-) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 16:56:01 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 29 14:46:50 2016. Heh. FreeBSD here since Vista, which soon became my own "KNOS" OS. Never looked back. I really have to stop this though, this is *so* off topic here. But yeah, the 70's were alive with all sorts of data services and things to do with computers. It took until the 80's however before they got sufficiently advanced for ordinary people to go online and book their damned faces and let every stranger from here to Timbuktu know more than their own family did about them. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 16:58:16 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 29 14:48:11 2016. See why I'm trying to avoid this room? (grin) |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 29 17:18:54 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 12:16:09 2016. I thought you loved the insanity and negativity? lol |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 17:36:23 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 29 17:18:54 2016. Insanity to a degree, yes, negativity no. But it's really the "same shit, different day" that gets bothersome. We used to have fun here. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 29 18:36:45 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 17:36:23 2016. Aw come on. You are entertaining. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 19:20:47 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 29 18:36:45 2016. I'll be back for more once things get a little more civil again. That this place has descended into very undesirable behavior lately on a number of fronts bothers me. Not my style. I'll keep lurking for a while. ;) |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 29 19:38:10 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 19:20:47 2016. I really don't think it's any worse now then it has been. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Sep 29 19:45:57 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 19:20:47 2016. LOL |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 19:48:20 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 29 19:38:10 2016. These two right here as an example of what I mean:http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=1396184 Not feeding it. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Sep 29 19:50:33 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 19:48:20 2016. LOL |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Sep 29 20:37:31 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 19:48:20 2016. Got a point there. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 29 21:14:17 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 29 19:38:10 2016. What an asshole. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 29 21:14:37 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Sep 29 19:50:33 2016. It's not funny. |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Sep 29 21:43:36 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 16:56:01 2016. Do you watch the series, "Halt and Catch Fire"? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 21:45:29 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 29 21:14:37 2016. Thanks, man. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 21:47:51 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by Dave on Thu Sep 29 21:43:36 2016. I don't do cable, but looks intriguing. I'll see about seeing it and thanks! :)"Black Mirror" is a series on Channel 4 in UK which is also very interesting and quite "dark" in its flavour. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 29 22:06:14 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 19:48:20 2016. what an asshole |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Thu Sep 29 22:14:32 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 29 21:14:17 2016. You do realize that you just called yourself an asshole, don't you? |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Thu Sep 29 22:15:06 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu Sep 29 21:14:37 2016. Why not? |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Thu Sep 29 22:15:18 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 21:45:29 2016. LOL |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Sep 30 07:00:50 2016, in response to Re: 21 Years Ago, Newsweek Published This Article, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 29 21:47:51 2016. First season of HACF was excellent. Second season was so-so. This season is fantastic, but you need to watch Season 2 to understand Season 3. |
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