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17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Aug 24 07:48:26 2016 Correct or Don't Correct? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 24 08:37:00 2016, in response to 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Aug 24 07:48:26 2016. Debasing the language = debasing the society. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Aug 24 09:24:49 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 24 08:37:00 2016. Didn't you recently refuse to care about who vs whom? |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Aug 24 09:55:23 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 24 08:37:00 2016. Indeed. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Aug 24 10:35:28 2016, in response to 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Aug 24 07:48:26 2016. The Oxford comma was a bugaboo for me back when I graded my student's papers. I was taught to use three commas, not two, and that's what I had my students do (at least, in my class!). |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Aug 24 11:15:49 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 24 08:37:00 2016. Most languages are flexible and constantly evolving, French Boy. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Aug 24 14:05:32 2016, in response to 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Aug 24 07:48:26 2016. I disagree. A few of those are worth correcting because they can confuse the meaning. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 24 15:19:26 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by 3-9 on Wed Aug 24 14:05:32 2016. IAWTP. Also I hate "irregardless." What the fuck kind of word is that?One thing that they didn't list but IMO is not worth correcting is "could care less." "Couldn't care less" is the correct way, but I could care less. :-) |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Aug 24 15:23:53 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 24 15:19:26 2016. Also, ending a sentence in a preposition is a sentence structure up with which I will not put.(I believe Churchill gets the credit for that one.) |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Aug 24 16:35:48 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by AlM on Wed Aug 24 15:23:53 2016. Imagine if English sentences saved the verb for the end? Learn all about the subject, all about the object, then wait to find out what actually happened. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Aug 24 16:42:36 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Aug 24 16:35:48 2016. Yeah. I have enough trouble with "Throw mother out the window the broom." |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Aug 24 19:16:28 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 24 15:19:26 2016. There are rare examples where 'could care less' is a correct usage, but almost no one uses it that way. For example, if someone told you about some world event that was slightly interesting but not worthy of a full response, you could say "eh, I could care less". In that context it means you do care a little, and the tone of voice in which it is spoken will convey that (longer pause after eh, and stress the word could). |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 24 19:47:33 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Aug 24 16:35:48 2016. Imagine if English sentences saved the verb for the end?English sentences for the end the verb saved imagine? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 24 19:48:34 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by 3-9 on Wed Aug 24 14:05:32 2016. Back to this old meme. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Aug 24 21:36:28 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Aug 24 16:35:48 2016. Kinda like those early HP calculators and their fucking postfix notation :P |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Aug 24 23:46:12 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by New Flyer #857 on Wed Aug 24 16:35:48 2016. Imagine if English sentences saved the verb for the end?The normal sentence word order for English is subject, verb, object. For many languages, like French, the order is subject object verb. Thus in English it's: I love you; whereas in French it's: je t'aime. Other languages, like Russian, have no word order. It's a declined language, where nouns take on endings depending on their grammatical case. For example "Trump likes Putin" could be translates either as: Трумп любит Путина (Trump likes Putina) or Путина любит Трумп (Putina likes Trump) In the first example it's subject verb object; in the second it's object verb subject. In both cases, an a has been added to Putin's name to denote it's the direct object. There's a different ending for indirect objects. There is a vestige of declension with the possessive case in English. We will usually add 's to a noun to denote possession, e.g. John's book. There's no such construction in French. They say: the book of John or le livre de Jean. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Aug 25 09:41:37 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Aug 24 23:46:12 2016. In both cases, an a has been added to Putin's name to denote it's the direct object. There's a different ending for indirect objects.I always wondered what the context of the "a" at the end of male names was. Thanks. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Aug 25 09:44:46 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by SMAZ on Thu Aug 25 09:41:37 2016. With respect to Putin, has anyone noticed that there exist remarkably similar words in Spanish and Italian? (It's the form Putina that reminded me.) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Aug 25 09:56:53 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 25 09:44:46 2016. I've noticed. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 25 11:35:17 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by SMAZ on Thu Aug 25 09:41:37 2016. Did you also know that Slavic surnames are gender-specific?I just ruined female Russian characters in American movies for you (e.g. Natasha "Romanoff"). |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Aug 25 12:30:26 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 25 11:35:17 2016. Did you also know that Slavic surnames are gender-specific?The first example where I remember noticing that was Svetlana Stalina. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Aug 26 10:11:45 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 25 11:35:17 2016. Did you also know that Slavic surnames are gender-specific?Yes. It's why, until now, I had never understood the meaning of the "a" when applied to males like in "Putina" or "Lenina" . |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Aug 26 10:16:40 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 25 12:30:26 2016. With me it was with the Soviet female athletes of yore whose names always ended with an "a".But then I would be stumped when hearing stuff like "Lenina" when referring to Vladimir Lenin. Until this thread, I always figured it was some kind of informal affectionate custom but I was never sure. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 26 10:29:00 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by SMAZ on Fri Aug 26 10:16:40 2016. I assume you would hear things like "Zavod Imeni Lenina?" |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Aug 26 10:52:16 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 26 10:29:00 2016. Yes or see it written on Soviet monuments. (I can read Cyrillic characters). |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Aug 26 16:16:51 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 24 15:19:26 2016. "Irregardless" is a bastarization of "regardless" that has entered the language by heavy if ignorant usage.I can defend "I could care less" as it consciously amplifies the correct form through sarcasm. In general, though, too easy acceptance of these errors debases the language. It's like saying "if I can get the meaning across it doesn't matter" until fewer and fewer even know what the correct form is. |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Aug 26 16:18:17 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Aug 24 21:36:28 2016. I was think that. It's called "Reverse Polish Notation" and it has its distinct uses in programming. |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Aug 26 16:23:06 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by AlM on Thu Aug 25 12:30:26 2016. For me it was Anna Karenina, who was married to Count Karenin. Though the tragedy proceeds from Karenina feeling that Karenin didn't Count. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Aug 26 18:46:13 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 26 10:29:00 2016. Lenin Factory |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Aug 26 18:47:26 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by SLRT on Fri Aug 26 16:18:17 2016. Do you know why it's called Polish Notation? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Aug 27 09:52:05 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by SLRT on Fri Aug 26 16:23:06 2016. HAHA!! |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 29 09:20:08 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Aug 26 18:47:26 2016. Yes. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 29 09:27:30 2016, in response to Re: 17 Grammar Mistakes to Stop Correcting, posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 29 09:20:08 2016. IAWTP. |
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