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Trump +1 |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:09:55 2016 Lead increasing |
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Re: Trump +1 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 12:11:02 2016, in response to Trump +1, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:09:55 2016. You mean lead appears? Another cherry-picked outlier poll. |
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Re: Trump +1 |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:16:45 2016, in response to Re: Trump +1, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 12:11:02 2016. No...that's the latest poll I;ve seen on my news crawl. Why didn't you complain about cherry picking when I posted the Hilly +6 poll on Friday?Hypocritical much? |
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Re: Trump +1 |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 12:31:21 2016, in response to Re: Trump +1, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:16:45 2016. Probably because that Clinton +6 poll is accurate. |
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Re: Clinton 358 Trump 180 |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 12:33:58 2016, in response to Trump +1, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:09:55 2016. Per electoral-vote.comThat's the count that matters. She avreages +6 in national vote polling. You have another outlier. How do you find these? |
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Re: Clinton 358 Trump 180 |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Aug 22 12:42:17 2016, in response to Re: Clinton 358 Trump 180, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 12:33:58 2016. How do you find these?LOL, that's a dumb question. |
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Re: Clinton 358 Trump 180 |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 22 12:43:02 2016, in response to Re: Clinton 358 Trump 180, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 12:33:58 2016. Don't get complacent. Trump doesn't need PA to win. If 4% of NH voters switch from Clinton to Trump and a lesser percentage switch in a handful of states (NV, IA, OH, FL), this will happen: |
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Re: Trump +1 |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:43:24 2016, in response to Re: Trump +1, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 12:31:21 2016. And you know that how, since you know nothing about polling methodologies? |
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Re: Clinton 358 Trump 180 |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Aug 22 12:45:03 2016, in response to Re: Clinton 358 Trump 180, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 22 12:43:02 2016. Don't get complacent.Too late. She said a long time ago that it would be virtually impossible for Trump to win. |
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Re: Trump +1 |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 22 12:45:55 2016, in response to Re: Trump +1, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:43:24 2016. Clinton + 5.5Maybe because she doesn't look at a single poll. |
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Re: Trump +1 |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 22 12:51:05 2016, in response to Re: Clinton 358 Trump 180, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 12:33:58 2016. Per electoral-vote.comLiberal website, klutz. |
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Re: Trump +1 |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 12:52:48 2016, in response to Re: Trump +1, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:16:45 2016. Because that Hillary+6 poll is in line with other polls.Do you post every poll you see on your news crawl? If not, you're cherry-picking. |
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Re: Trump +1 |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 22 12:58:23 2016, in response to Re: Trump +1, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 12:52:48 2016. Almost every single poll he posts is an outlier. He posted Hillary +10 a few days ago.Meanwhile, RCP, 538, and others are giving a quite sane running average that indicates that the race is tightening slightly but at least for now Clinton is still ahead by 5-6 points. |
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Re: Trump +1 |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 22 12:59:04 2016, in response to Re: Trump +1, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 22 12:51:05 2016. RCP says roughly the same. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 13:35:33 2016, in response to Re: Trump +1, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 22 12:52:48 2016. Obviously the crawl runs 24/7 and I'm not at my computer 24/7. I post 'em when I sees 'em. |
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Re: Trump +1 |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 22 13:38:22 2016, in response to Re: Trump +1, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 13:35:33 2016. Well your random looks have managed to pick outliers almost exclusively. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:03:33 2016, in response to Re: Trump +1, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 22 13:38:22 2016. Maybe it's the time of day I'm at the computer? You didn't comment negatively when I ran the Hilly +6 story. |
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Re: Trump +1 |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 22 14:17:20 2016, in response to Re: Trump +1, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:03:33 2016. Heh. I should have congratulated you on finding a result that was roughly in line with the average! |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 14:42:46 2016, in response to Re: Trump +1, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 22 14:17:20 2016. Just posting what I see when I see it. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 22 15:20:46 2016, in response to Re: Trump +1, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 22 12:58:23 2016. What I find interesting in the RCP averages is that Johnson and Stein appear to be drawing more from Hillary than Trump. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 22 15:22:06 2016, in response to Re: Trump +1, posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 22 15:20:46 2016. Yes, it varies with time but in general they have been drawing slightly more from Clinton. |
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Re: Clinton 358 Trump 180 |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 16:07:41 2016, in response to Re: Clinton 358 Trump 180, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 22 12:43:02 2016. That's why we cannot.However, Dave seems to think that if he can find enough outlier polls he'll convince everyone to vote against their best interests, and that's trump. May work on the yokels in his neighborhood. New Yorkers have had trump in their face for over thirty years now, we *know* he's unqualified for the job of President. Gotta worry about places like texass where they think if you're rich (despite it being inherited wealth) you are somehow smart. We know that's not how it works. |
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Re: Trump +1 |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 16:10:23 2016, in response to Re: Trump +1, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:43:24 2016. Where did that mis,taken idea come from?All polls reveal their methodolgies if they're legitimate. One just has to simply read. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 17:02:24 2016, in response to Re: Trump +1, posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 22 16:10:23 2016. And you obviously haven't read the LA Times poll methodology. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 22 19:04:20 2016, in response to Trump +1, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:09:55 2016. 
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 22 23:33:21 2016, in response to Re: Trump +1, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 22 19:04:20 2016. HAHAHA!! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Aug 23 04:45:00 2016, in response to Trump +1, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:09:55 2016. I've said it once, I'll say it again.......... |
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Clinton +8 |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 23 09:02:14 2016, in response to Trump +1, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:09:55 2016. And in a few hours there will be another poll. |
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Re: Clinton +8 |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Aug 23 09:32:43 2016, in response to Clinton +8, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 23 09:02:14 2016. Looking at the same pollsters versus their last poll, they are pretty consistent that Trump has knocked a point off of Hillary's lead since the last polling |
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Re: Clinton +8 |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 23 09:52:00 2016, in response to Re: Clinton +8, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Aug 23 09:32:43 2016. IAWTP. So does 538. |
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Re: Clinton +8 |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 23 10:01:34 2016, in response to Re: Clinton +8, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Aug 23 09:32:43 2016. Looking at the RCP chart, Clinton got an 8.8 point bounce (from -1.1 to +7.7) and 6.6 of it is left. |
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This just in ... (Re: Clinton +8) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 23 19:00:11 2016, in response to Clinton +8, posted by AlM on Tue Aug 23 09:02:14 2016. For those who believe polls at this time in the year ...Clinton leads Trump by 12 points in Reuters/Ipsos poll Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton leads Republican rival Donald Trump by 12 percentage points among likely voters, her strongest showing this month, according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll released on Tuesday. The Aug. 18-22 poll showed that 45 percent of voters supported Clinton, while 33 percent backed Trump ahead of the Nov. 8 election. Clinton, the former U.S. secretary of state, has led Trump, a New York businessman, throughout most of the 2016 campaign. But her latest lead represents a stronger level of support than polls indicated over the past few weeks. Earlier in August, Clinton's lead over Trump ranged from 3 to 9 percentage points in the poll. The poll also found that about 22 percent of likely voters would not pick either candidate. That lack of support is high compared with how people responded to the poll during the 2012 presidential election between Democratic President Barack Obama and Republican Mitt Romney. "Those who are wavering right now are just as likely to be thinking about supporting a third-party candidate instead, and not between Clinton and Trump," said Tom Smith, who directs the Center for the Study of Politics and Society at the University of Chicago. During the latest polling, Clinton faced renewed scrutiny about her handling of classified emails while serving as secretary of state from 2009 to 2013, and Trump's campaign chief, Paul Manafort, resigned after a reshuffle of the candidate's campaign leadership team. Clinton held a smaller lead in a separate four-way poll that included Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson and Jill Stein of the Green Party. Among likely voters, 41 percent supported Clinton, while 33 percent backed Trump. Johnson was backed by 7 percent and Stein by 2 percent. The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online in English in all 50 states. Both presidential polls included 1,115 respondents and had a credibility interval, a measure of accuracy, of 3 percentage points. (Editing by Peter Cooney) |
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Re: This just in ... (Re: Clinton +8) |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Aug 23 19:53:10 2016, in response to This just in ... (Re: Clinton +8), posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 23 19:00:11 2016. Last week Reuters/Ipsos had her at +5.Odd. Usually a given poll doesn't swing that wildly. I'll stick with the RCP average. They still have her at +5.5. |
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Re: This just in ... (Re: Clinton +8) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 23 20:02:06 2016, in response to Re: This just in ... (Re: Clinton +8), posted by AlM on Tue Aug 23 19:53:10 2016. I'm just doing the Dr. Dave thing ... came over my crawler, it's contrarian, think once, post twice! :) |
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Trump +3 |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 25 10:39:19 2016, in response to Trump +1, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 22 12:09:55 2016. Tampa Bay Times
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