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Re: Trump Commits Treason?
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Wed Jul 27 22:26:17 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 27 21:32:26 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d You are correct! Everyone here jumps all over you too!
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Jul 27 22:31:25 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jul 27 22:26:17 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Heh. I get the deepest under the craziest marksists' skin. Not even TS has a "terrapinology of terror" stalkthread.
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Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Wed Jul 27 22:32:27 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jul 27 22:26:17 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d My shoulders are broad ... at least in THIS shirt. :)
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Posted by FYBklyn1959* on Wed Jul 27 22:44:44 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 27 22:31:25 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Speaking of, seems Luch has been kinda quiet since Pigs started that "Luchology of racism" thread. I'm reading Compressed with 100 threads per page, and it's nowhere in sight :)
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Wed Jul 27 22:46:04 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Jul 27 22:44:44 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d He must've found a pretty Irish-Catholic girl with red hair who is pro-abortion to hook up with. What a lucky dude.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Thu Jul 28 04:42:09 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 27 22:31:25 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d True.
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Posted by bingbong* on Thu Jul 28 09:08:34 2016, in response to Trump Commits Treason, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 27 12:08:58 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Trump Calls for Russia to Find Hillary Clinton's Deleted Emails linked article contain hyperlinks Yesterday, Donald Trump went where no presidential candidate has ever gone. He publicly asked a foreign country—and one that is not especially friendly to the United States—to spy on a former top-ranking U.S. government official and release possible confidential information. Literally, he said: "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you are able to find the 30,000 emails [from Hillary Clinton's tenure as Secretary of State] that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press." Clinton immediately accused Trump of asking an adversary of the United States to spy on the country and be rewarded for doing do. Imagine an ad that shows Trump making that statement but cuts away just after the word "mightily," leaving the impression that if Russia hacks the U.S. government, a President Trump would reward it for that. Trump has now opened a whole new line of attack based on the idea that he supports a Communist dictator against America. For some moderate Republicans and "America Firsters," this might be a bridge too far. For Democrats, it is close to treason. Now, is it actually treason? Probably not, writes Slate's Osita Nwanevu. The Constitution says that, "Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort." Suggesting that America's enemies do bad things is not the same thing as giving those enemies aid and comfort, and is certainly not levying war against the country. However, Trump may have run afoul of the law nonetheless. By encouraging Russia to take "imminent lawless action," and to do so using computer resources, he very probably committed a felony under the terms of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. It's quite unlikely that the Justice Dept. will prosecute, given the political overtones that would come from a Democratic administration putting the Republican presidential candidate on trial, but it will make it rather harder for Republicans to argue that Hillary should be "locked up," to borrow Gov. Chris Christie's (R-NJ) phrase. Meanwhile, the political fallout from Trump's remarks looks to be severe. Eliot Cohen, who was a top official in George W. Bush's State Dept. commented on Trump's statement by saying: "It's appalling." Michael Vickers, an assistant secretary of defense in George W. Bush's administration, put it this way: "His Russia strategy seems to be little more than appeasement. He is doing Vladimir Putin's bidding..." All Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) had to say about this was: "Russia is a global menace led by a devious thug. Putin should stay out of this election." The careful reader will notice that Ryan didn't bother to mention Trump in his statement. Rush Limbaugh, by contrast, was pleased with Trump's comment, calling it "quite clever." Sen. John McCain's (R-AZ) 2008 slogan was "Country First." It will be interesting to see how many Republicans in the coming days put country ahead of party. (V & Z)
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Posted by SLRT* on Thu Jul 28 09:33:40 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 27 20:04:38 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Oh, well that's great. Obama's and Hillary's State Department couldn't secure their servers against hacking. Beautiful.
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Posted by SMAZ* on Thu Jul 28 09:36:45 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 27 22:46:04 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d I thought he was into evangelicas Salvadorenas .
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Posted by FYBklyn1959* on Thu Jul 28 09:58:57 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 27 22:46:04 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d LOL!!
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Posted by FYBklyn1959* on Thu Jul 28 10:02:59 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 27 22:46:04 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Or maybe he took a cruise to Saint Marteens to explore his aviator side :) #FatFeminisim alert at lower left :)
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Posted by bingbong* on Thu Jul 28 10:05:19 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by SLRT on Thu Jul 28 09:33:40 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d And you could be quite sure that had the republican Congress funded the departments properly, as requested, this probably would not have happened. Same goes for Benghazi.
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Posted by SLRT* on Thu Jul 28 10:42:57 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 28 10:05:19 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Is bing-bong-bing-bong the sound a broken record makes?
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Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Jul 28 10:56:35 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Jul 28 10:02:59 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d I'd like to visit Princess Juliana Airport at least once in my life.
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Posted by Dave* on Thu Jul 28 12:16:16 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 28 09:08:34 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Meanwhile, the political fallout from Trump's remarks looks to be severe. Is that why he's polling +7 over Hilly?
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Posted by R2ChinaTown* on Thu Jul 28 12:19:13 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by Dave on Thu Jul 28 12:16:16 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d I guess she means that he should be double that lead.
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel* on Thu Jul 28 12:45:53 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by Dave on Thu Jul 28 12:16:16 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Is that why he's polling +7 over Hilly? No, because the tweet happened yesterday, and one seventh of the USC poll respondents might heave heard about it before answering the poll.
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Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Jul 28 13:31:30 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by SLRT on Thu Jul 28 09:33:40 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d The usual suspects were in there during Bush as well. The point here though is that Hillary probably was safer using her own server than the State Department. Welcome to a couple of decades' worth of Windows insecurity on machines that should have been removed from service decades ago. Windows XP is still prevalent on desktops, NT and 2000 are still powering our government because replacing all that old, obsolete junk is expensive and tax cuts for the rich have always been more important than infrastructure.
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com* on Thu Jul 28 13:32:53 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 28 13:31:30 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d cut the defense budget
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Posted by TonyG* on Thu Jul 28 13:34:18 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 28 13:31:30 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d XP is very prevalent in US Government infrastructure.
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Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Jul 28 13:52:29 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by TonyG on Thu Jul 28 13:34:18 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Sadly, I saw lots of Windows 98 and MSDOS 5 there too. And I'm talking spook agencies using those.
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Posted by FYBklyn1959* on Thu Jul 28 14:37:25 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 28 10:56:35 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d It's on my bucket list (once I retire) Can't decide whether to go by cruise ship or (gasp!) plane. Seems that B6 doesn't fly FLL-SXM, but they do fly TPA/MCO-SXM. WTF?!? Well in a year or so, I could get to MCO via train, so we'll see.
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Posted by Dave* on Thu Jul 28 15:08:50 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Jul 28 12:45:53 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d We'll find out on the next polling cycle.
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Posted by SLRT* on Thu Jul 28 15:34:33 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 28 13:31:30 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d The point here though is that Hillary probably was safer using her own server than the State Department That may be true, but does that mean that's the real reason she used her own server? Or just another Phun Phact of Politics?
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Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Jul 28 15:40:02 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by SLRT on Thu Jul 28 15:34:33 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Who knows? The one thing that's been true throughout though is that Hillary has never been technically savvy. Fortunately, she hired people who were.
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Posted by TonyG* on Thu Jul 28 15:42:41 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 28 15:40:02 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d What amazes me is that Republicans love to harp on Hillary for lying and potentially using a private e-mail server but they don't seem to care at all about the fact that their candidate is also a serial liar who has been involved in several questionable business relationships.
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Posted by AlM* on Thu Jul 28 15:43:35 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by SLRT on Thu Jul 28 15:34:33 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d All this "real reason" stuff is so unbelievable. If she wanted to hide something, she would have used her .gov email for work and her private email for stuff she wanted to hide. She so obviously got into this hole because she took the easy path and nobody told her not to. Meanwhile Trump blatantly steals $40 million from the public and makes jokes about inviting foreign government to criminally interfere in domestic policy and nobody gives a damn.
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Posted by R2ChinaTown* on Thu Jul 28 15:43:39 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by TonyG on Thu Jul 28 15:42:41 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Why does this amaze you, Tony?
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Posted by AlM* on Thu Jul 28 15:44:26 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Jul 28 15:43:39 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Because he has been assuming Republicans are as intelligent as he is.
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Posted by AlM* on Thu Jul 28 15:45:25 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 28 15:40:02 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Pity she didn't hire people at State who were politically savvy.
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Posted by R2ChinaTown* on Thu Jul 28 15:46:30 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 28 15:44:26 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Thank you Alma
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Posted by TonyG* on Thu Jul 28 15:48:40 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Jul 28 15:43:39 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Because you've been blabbering about Clinton's private e-mail and about how she is a liar and yet your candidate has done the EXACT SAME THING.
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Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Jul 28 15:56:57 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by TonyG on Thu Jul 28 15:42:41 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d
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Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Jul 28 15:59:58 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by AlM on Thu Jul 28 15:45:25 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d One of the things that I learned working in government - agency heads come and go, but burrocrats outlive them. Technical titles are civil service, the people that actually DO the work. And civil service tests aren't really designed to choose the best talent, they're designed to choose the best test-takers.
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Posted by R2Chinatown* on Thu Jul 28 16:15:28 2016, in response to Re: Trump Commits Treason, posted by TonyG on Thu Jul 28 15:48:40 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d I've been blabbering? What do you consider blabbering? Please cite examples, bingbong.
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Russia: We no find emails for you; no more bother us
Posted by Olog-hai* on Thu Jul 28 18:19:30 2016, in response to Trump Commits Treason, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 27 12:08:58 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Reuters Russia to U.S., Trump: Sort out your own pre-election hacking scandal By Andrew Osborn and Maria Tsvetkova Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:08pm EDT Russia told the United States on Thursday to get to the bottom of a hacking scandal involving Democratic Party emails itself and rejected what Donald Trump said was a sarcastic suggestion that Moscow should dig up Hillary Clinton's "missing" emails. Trump, the Republican Party's presidential candidate, angered Democrats on Wednesday by inviting Russia to unearth tens of thousands of emails from rival Clinton's tenure as U.S. secretary of state. He spoke out after President Barack Obama said it was possible Russia might try to influence the Nov. 8 U.S. presidential election after a leak of Democratic National Committee emails that experts blamed on Russian hackers. Suggestions of Russian involvement have riled the Kremlin, which has categorically denied this and accused U.S. politicians of seeking to play on Cold War-style American fears of Moscow by fabricating stories for electoral purposes. President Vladimir Putin has tried to avoid giving the impression of favoring any U.S. candidate, while hailing the populist Trump as being "very talented". Russian state TV coverage has tended to tilt towards Trump over Clinton. On Thursday, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said accusations of a Russian hand in hacking Democratic Party emails bordered on "total stupidity" and were motivated by anti-Russian sentiment. He rejected Trump's apparently sarcastic suggestion for Russia to dig up Clinton's emails point-blank. "As regards these (email) batches, that is not our headache. We never poke our noses into others' affairs and we really don't like it when people try to poke their nose into ours," he said. "The Americans need to get to the bottom of what these emails are themselves and find out what it's all about." Trump, who has repeatedly said he would strive for better U.S. relations with Russia if he won the presidency, also raised eyebrows by saying he would consider recognizing Ukraine's Crimea as part of Russia, which annexed the region in 2014. Peskov said the Kremlin was unmoved by that comment, and it would not change what he says has been its neutral stance on U.S. presidential candidates. "We know perfectly well that candidates in the heat of a pre-election struggle say one thing, but that later, when under the weight of responsibility, their rhetoric becomes more balanced." In response to Trump's remarks on Crimea, Ukraine's U.N. Ambassador Volodymyr Yelchenko said on Thursday: "Mr. Trump is not the president of the United States, at least not yet." "Secondly, there are the well-known decisions of the United Nations. … I'm pretty sure that any U.S. government will pay full respect to those decisions," he told reporters. In March 2014, the 193-member United Nations General Assembly adopted a resolution declaring invalid Crimea's Moscow-backed referendum seceding from Ukraine. Analysts say the Kremlin would welcome a Trump victory in November because the wealthy New York businessman has repeatedly praised Putin, spoken of wanting to get along with Russia, and has said he would consider an alliance with Moscow against Islamic State. Trump's suggestion that he might abandon NATO's pledge to automatically defend all member states is also likely to have gone down well in Moscow, where the Western military alliance is cast as an outdated Cold War relic. (Additional reporting by Lidia Kelly in Moscow and Michelle Nichols at the United Nations; Editing by Mark Heinrich and Jonathan Oatis)
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Re: Russia: We no find emails for you; no more bother us
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Thu Jul 28 18:24:18 2016, in response to Russia: We no find emails for you; no more bother us, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 28 18:19:30 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Olog defending the Russians. Now I've seen everything!
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Re: Russia: We no find emails for you; no more bother us
Posted by SMAZ* on Fri Jul 29 10:17:17 2016, in response to Russia: We no find emails for you; no more bother us, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jul 28 18:19:30 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Good to see that you're a shill for RT and the Pravda.
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Re: Russia: We no find emails for you; no more bother us
Posted by JayZeeBMT* on Fri Jul 29 11:52:45 2016, in response to Re: Russia: We no find emails for you; no more bother us, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 28 18:24:18 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d In Russia, server hacks you!
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Re: Russia: We no find emails for you; no more bother us
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Fri Jul 29 14:06:56 2016, in response to Re: Russia: We no find emails for you; no more bother us, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jul 29 11:52:45 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Yep. Just ask vk.com how it works. :)
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Re: Russia: We no find emails for you; no more bother us
Posted by Olog-hai* on Fri Jul 29 14:09:16 2016, in response to Re: Russia: We no find emails for you; no more bother us, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 28 18:24:18 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Olog defending the Russians Now where did you get that from? You're getting as deluded as your "better half". Nobody defends the Russkies like you do, anyhow.
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Re: Russia: We no find emails for you; no more bother us
Posted by SelkirkTMO* on Fri Jul 29 14:34:07 2016, in response to Re: Russia: We no find emails for you; no more bother us, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 29 14:09:16 2016.* fiogf49gjkf0d Lessee ... where do we start? "Al Reuters" is a news source you bash at every opportunity and yet here you are posting their stuff. Secondly, the article is a denial all around that Russia could do such a thing. Then there's the backhanded endorsement of Trump and so many neat little quotes from several prominent Russkies. And yet you had no commentary about Trump? And I'm delusional? You did a 180 there. Heat stroke, maybe?
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