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Posted by TonyG on Wed Jul 27 09:29:51 2016, in response to Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jul 27 07:59:59 2016. The 24 hour news cycle and the Internet happened.Nobody with 1/8 of a brain who isn't criminally insane or a megalomaniac wants to be President anymore. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jul 27 09:45:21 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by TonyG on Wed Jul 27 09:29:51 2016. Excellent description of hillary |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 27 09:47:42 2016, in response to Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jul 27 07:59:59 2016. There was a popular theory that extraordinary times bred extraordinary leaders. A prime example was World War II which saw Roosevelt, Churchill, Stalin, Hitler and Mussolini on the world stage all at once.Now nobody is extraordinary for more than a news cycle. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 27 10:54:33 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed Jul 27 09:45:21 2016. Even better for trump. Hillary isn't ego crazed. She gets her kicks out of seeing the work done, another problem solved. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jul 27 11:21:07 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 27 10:54:33 2016. Like she did at Benghazi, right? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 27 11:35:27 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jul 27 11:21:07 2016. Yes, Hillary was at Benghazi. She personally executed Ambassador Stevens. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 27 11:58:50 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 27 11:35:27 2016. The buck didn't stop in Benghazi. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 27 12:04:04 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 27 09:47:42 2016. A prime example was World War II which saw Roosevelt, Churchill, Stalin, Hitler and Mussolini on the world stage all at onceOnly some of those on that list were extraordinary leaders; others were tyrants. Those who can't sort out which are which are in trouble. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 27 12:08:14 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 27 12:04:04 2016. A tyrant, insofar as they can move their people and their nations, are extraordinary leaders.Other tyrants not so much so, like Hoxha and Papa Doc. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 27 12:24:53 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 27 12:08:14 2016. False definition. Extraordinary leaders build up their nations, not just merely "move" them like a severe bowel movement. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jul 27 12:38:25 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 27 11:58:50 2016. Ah, so you think Reagan as Commander-in-Chief was personally responsible for the murder of 241 US Marines in Beirut? |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 27 12:49:10 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by AlM on Wed Jul 27 12:38:25 2016. If he (or his Secretary of State) had the opportunity to take action once the atrocity was known and did not, he could have been. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 27 13:00:15 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by AlM on Wed Jul 27 12:38:25 2016. Using current logic, his SoS at the time, George Schultz. Who had ties to Bechtel and Halliburton. Where was the hue and cry over that? 241 Marines is greater than 3 ( the number of operatives that were with the Ambassador) |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jul 27 13:05:25 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 27 12:49:10 2016. According to various Congressional reports, neither State nor Defense had any opportunity to rescue Stevens once the attack started.So what on earth are you talking about? |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 27 13:14:04 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by AlM on Wed Jul 27 13:05:25 2016. You asked about Reagan and Beirut and I answered you.Are you having trouble focusing? |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 27 13:15:11 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 27 13:00:15 2016. Oh, noes!!!!Bechtel and Halliburton!! Seems like old times .... :) |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jul 27 13:19:56 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 27 13:14:04 2016. Your answer makes no sense. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 27 13:25:15 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by AlM on Wed Jul 27 13:19:56 2016. Then you're comprehension challenged as well. I gave you a direct answer to your direct question. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jul 27 13:32:03 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 27 13:25:15 2016. Nonsense.If he (or his Secretary of State) had the opportunity to take action once the atrocity was known and did not, he could have been. You imply that Clinton "had the opportunity to take action once the atrocity was known and did not." Yet you don't explain what action Clinton had the opportunity to take and did not take. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 27 13:35:38 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by AlM on Wed Jul 27 13:32:03 2016. You asked about Reagan. My answer was about Reagan.You're so intent on your meme, you can't follow. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 27 13:36:45 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 27 13:35:38 2016. I don't want to insult you, as you seem to try to post in good faith, but you're worrying me. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jul 27 13:42:35 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 27 13:36:45 2016. Wow. You just can't read or you are willfully being stupid. You made a comment about Clinton. I made an analogy to Reagan. You just refuse to address my question about that analogy while pretending you've answered my question.Your real answer seems to be "None of your effing business what I think." Why don't you just say that? That would be honest. |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Jul 27 13:50:51 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by AlM on Wed Jul 27 13:42:35 2016. You're effing wasting my time. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jul 27 16:21:04 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 27 13:00:15 2016. Tell that to the three families who lost loved ones. "Sorry, folks, your losses don't matter because there was a Democrat in office at the time." |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 27 16:22:13 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jul 27 16:21:04 2016. But 241 with a republican is perfectly OK? And how about Iraq? Wow. |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Jul 27 16:32:06 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 27 16:22:13 2016. Had the 241 requested assistance and were turned down? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 27 16:45:23 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by Dave on Wed Jul 27 16:32:06 2016. Yep. You'd think the first truck bombing six months earlier might have made a dent.http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/27/1251119/-Hoaxes-101-Losing-241-at-Beirut-in-1983-Didn-t-Happen-No-More |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jul 27 16:54:28 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 27 16:45:23 2016. reeeeee--gain got away with thishe invaded grenada !! remember |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Jul 27 19:11:13 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 27 16:45:23 2016. Did you read that link? It was the most nonsensical dribble; I honestly couldn't understand what it said. It was like random words strung together. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jul 27 19:26:17 2016, in response to Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jul 27 07:59:59 2016. There are always other options for the educated in the anglosphere...      And two where any American can freely live and work in, no applications or visas required:   And some where learning the local language isn't really necessary:   Think of how people with skills or money left Detroit, but on a slightly larger scale. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 27 19:28:57 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by Dave on Wed Jul 27 19:11:13 2016. Sure did, and agree. However, what happened in Beirut was definitely not a surprise. And nothing of any significance got done to armor up. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jul 27 19:32:27 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 27 12:24:53 2016. Well if the nation's constipated... |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 27 19:35:18 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jul 27 19:26:17 2016. And some where learning the local language isn't really necessaryIf you don't learn German, you become a de facto second-class citizen. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 27 19:37:22 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 27 19:35:18 2016. Yeah, but at least they're not trying to deport you. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 27 19:37:44 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by Dave on Wed Jul 27 19:11:13 2016. It was like random words strung together.That's called "word salad". You get that and worse from the Daily Gross, which I almost forgot existed (a relic from the 2000s). |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jul 27 19:46:10 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 27 19:35:18 2016. Considering the Refugee crisis, I think failing to learn German has probably moved way down the list of "things to be upset at migrants about". |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Jul 27 21:16:10 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 27 19:37:44 2016. Is/Was it always like that? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 28 09:20:36 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jul 27 19:26:17 2016. And some where learning the local language isn't really necessary:Speaking the local language is necessary in Germany unless you're working with a very large multinational, NGO or supranational governmental organization. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 28 09:21:03 2016, in response to Re: Has America Jumped the Shark?, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 27 19:35:18 2016. IAWTP |
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