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Posted by Dave on Wed Jul 27 07:15:37 2016 Sanders loyalists warn Democratic Party could rupture over Clinton nomination |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jul 27 08:27:09 2016, in response to Empty threat or could this happen?, posted by Dave on Wed Jul 27 07:15:37 2016. The Democratic Party has already splintered. That's what the Green Party is all about - people who dislike the Democrats so much they don't care who gets elected. They had a great victory in 2000 and may have another one this year.But it's looking like a 90/10 or 98/2 splintering, not anything like 60/40. The trouble for Hillary is that even 98/2 could sink her, though not the Party. I know many people who would have preferred Sanders as the candidate but are quite accepting of Clinton. They're not staying home or voting for Stein. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 27 10:48:45 2016, in response to Empty threat or could this happen?, posted by Dave on Wed Jul 27 07:15:37 2016. It's interesting that the Republican establishment just hated Trump there was talk of this before the convention for them.It just shows that Republicans are more about loyalty and solidarity than the Democrats. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 27 10:50:41 2016, in response to Re: Empty threat or could this happen?, posted by AlM on Wed Jul 27 08:27:09 2016. I loved what Sander had to say, he has the right ideas. But he fell flat fast for me because hehad not elucidated how he was going to get those ideas implemented. Hillary always shared the same goals, but caution has always prevailed for her so she didn't bring them as blatantly in your face as Sanders did. That he did got her to heartily agree and so we have an excellent Democratic platform.She was always to the left og Bill. And as you saw last night, her forte has been inplementing good ideas into policy. This is the President we need. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jul 27 10:50:46 2016, in response to Re: Empty threat or could this happen?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 27 10:48:45 2016. IAWTP. If the Democrats nominated someone even halfway like Trump he'd lose miserably. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jul 27 11:19:54 2016, in response to Empty threat or could this happen?, posted by Dave on Wed Jul 27 07:15:37 2016. Nah. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jul 27 11:38:06 2016, in response to Re: Empty threat or could this happen?, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 27 10:50:41 2016. She was always to the left og [of] Bill.Always? A self-proclaimed Goldwater Girl!!!! What's important now, isn't how she compares to Bill of 1992. What's important is how she compares to the Sanders supporters of 2016. |
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Posted by TonyG on Wed Jul 27 11:41:11 2016, in response to Re: Empty threat or could this happen?, posted by AlM on Wed Jul 27 08:27:09 2016. The GOP is also fractured.A higher percentage of Republicans will vote for Johnson than Democrats will vote for Stein. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jul 27 12:25:40 2016, in response to Re: Empty threat or could this happen?, posted by TonyG on Wed Jul 27 11:41:11 2016. iawtp |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 27 15:33:13 2016, in response to Re: Empty threat or could this happen?, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jul 27 11:38:06 2016. Bingbong was a republican of that vintage as well. Hmmm. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Wed Jul 27 22:09:07 2016, in response to Re: Empty threat or could this happen?, posted by TonyG on Wed Jul 27 11:41:11 2016. Well of course, Johnson's on the ballot in all 50 states while Stein is only in 23 states. Even if she were to wage a fantastic campaign and successfully win over every democrat, she'd still lose and guarantee a Trump win.Of course if Green wins even one state, the next election you can bet it would be on the ballot in all of them, and you might see some state & local candidates for the Green party... sacrifice the battle to win the war (and I would say it is a worthwhile sacrifice). If Trump wins we simply get a do-over for the Democratic primary in 4 years instead of 8. Disenfranchised Sanders supporters might see that as a valid reason to vote Trump as well. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jul 27 22:15:26 2016, in response to Empty threat or could this happen?, posted by Dave on Wed Jul 27 07:15:37 2016. No way the Stupordelegates are going to let their antidemocratic work be wasted on another candidate besides Hillary. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jul 27 23:04:52 2016, in response to Re: Empty threat or could this happen?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 27 15:33:13 2016. Birds of a feather? :=) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 27 23:23:58 2016, in response to Re: Empty threat or could this happen?, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Jul 27 23:04:52 2016. Me too. The republican party as WE knew it ceased to exist in 1980. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jul 27 23:53:59 2016, in response to Re: Empty threat or could this happen?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 27 23:23:58 2016. iawtp ! |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jul 28 06:10:54 2016, in response to Re: Empty threat or could this happen?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 27 23:23:58 2016. It wasn't worth knowing for a long time before that. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Thu Jul 28 06:21:49 2016, in response to Re: Empty threat or could this happen?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 27 15:33:13 2016. Does she know that yet or do you have to leave her a note? |
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