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Re: Brexit Supporters: Oh, we lied

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 27 15:45:35 2016, in response to Re: Brexit Supporters: Oh, we lied, posted by SLRT on Mon Jun 27 15:42:54 2016.

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I actually read it as a call to action. I'm portraying the worst possible scenario because I want you to wake up and do something, Angela.



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Boris backpedals even more

Posted by AlM on Mon Jun 27 15:49:54 2016, in response to Brexit Supporters: Oh, we lied, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 27 09:27:00 2016.

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Now he wants Britain to stay in the EU market zone.

Well, there happen to be some strings attached to that. Like regulations and immigration strings.





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Re: Brexit Supporters: Oh, we lied

Posted by SLRT on Mon Jun 27 15:53:14 2016, in response to Re: Brexit Supporters: Oh, we lied, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 27 15:45:35 2016.

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He concludes with:

That is where we are today. All of Europe, including Britain, would suffer from the loss of the common market and the loss of common values that the EU was designed to protect. Yet the EU truly has broken down and ceased to satisfy its citizens’ needs and aspirations. It is heading for a disorderly disintegration that will leave Europe worse off than where it would have been had the EU not been brought into existence.

But we must not give up. Admittedly, the EU is a flawed construction. After Brexit, all of us who believe in the values and principles that the EU was designed to uphold must band together to save it by thoroughly reconstructing it. I am convinced that as the consequences of Brexit unfold in the weeks and months ahead, more and more people will join us.


Could be action. Could be despair. The EU leaders attitude now seems to be for revenge. That don't seems to be in the mood to embrace Soros's many criticisms and his call to "thoroughly reconstruct[...] it."


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Re: Boris backpedals even more

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 27 17:04:58 2016, in response to Boris backpedals even more, posted by AlM on Mon Jun 27 15:49:54 2016.

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Sorry, Boris. That's democracy. You should have thought of that before you sold the British people a bill of goods.

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Re: Brexit Supporters: Oh, we lied

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 27 20:44:43 2016, in response to Re: Brexit Supporters: Oh, we lied, posted by SLRT on Mon Jun 27 12:18:03 2016.

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Antonin Scalia addressed the secession issue in 2007. He said "if there was any issue that was resolved by the Civil War, it as that states do not have the right to secede". Texas is unique in that it is the only state that has the right to split itself into five other states (including itself), but like every other state in the Union, it cannot legally secede from the United States.

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Re: Brexit Supporters: Oh, we lied

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 27 21:14:18 2016, in response to Re: Brexit Supporters: Oh, we lied, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Jun 27 20:44:43 2016.

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It doesn't make sense that Congress would not be able to approve secession. It's unilateral secession that's unconstitutional. In Texas v. White 74 U.S. 700 (1869), the Supreme Court ruled that secession could be achieved by consent of the states: "The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States." Id at 700 (emphasis added).

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