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Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium |
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Posted by DAND124 on Thu May 26 02:21:55 2016 What idiot decided to build a stadium without a retractable roof in the first place?http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/rangers/2016/05/24/texas-rangers-arlington-new-stadium-ballpark/84888394/ |
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Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu May 26 02:39:15 2016, in response to Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by DAND124 on Thu May 26 02:21:55 2016. who is gonna pay for this new stadium |
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Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 26 02:41:24 2016, in response to Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by DAND124 on Thu May 26 02:21:55 2016. I'm sure that they'll find a way to make us pick up the tab.Oh ... and google is your friend. Look into who was behind all that. Yep ... lookee, it's DUBYA! :) |
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Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 26 02:42:29 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu May 26 02:39:15 2016. The rest of us, of course. They're gonna hit up the city there for a half cent sales tax so the poor can kick in their piece, and good old congress will get us for the rest. |
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Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu May 26 02:51:30 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 26 02:42:29 2016. oh yeah the poor working classesyep ! |
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Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 26 03:07:40 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu May 26 02:51:30 2016. Somebody gotta pay, and it won't be the ball team. |
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Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu May 26 03:12:47 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 26 03:07:40 2016. the poor people of texassssand people who cant afford to go to a stadium for ANY event man this is wrong |
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Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 26 03:17:47 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu May 26 03:12:47 2016. It's how things are done. The poor don't vote, that's why they get screwed. That's gotta change. |
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Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu May 26 03:42:53 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 26 03:17:47 2016. well ....................so you vote em out of office ? |
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Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 26 04:08:21 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu May 26 03:42:53 2016. We've pretty much taken care of them in our state. We need folks in other states to get rid of theirs. |
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Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu May 26 04:11:38 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 26 04:08:21 2016. well yeahi wonder who is gonna pay for our new stadium here in ingelwood california |
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Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 26 04:19:07 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu May 26 04:11:38 2016. Who else? YOU.Or else, they'll pack up and leave to where some other suckers are going to pay for it. Is that stadium all that important to Ingelwood? Send them off to Cincinnati. :) |
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Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium |
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Posted by Dave on Thu May 26 07:17:47 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 26 02:42:29 2016. good old congress will get us for the rest.False. Geez, you been taking lessons from Bingbong? No new taxes will be used for the stadium. Instead, the half-cent sales tax, 2 percent hotel occupancy tax and 5 percent car rental tax being used to pay for the Dallas Cowboys’ AT&T Stadium would essentially be re-purposed. That's for Arlington's 50%. The Rangers will pay the other 50%. |
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Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium |
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Posted by Dave on Thu May 26 07:27:38 2016, in response to Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by DAND124 on Thu May 26 02:21:55 2016. That was 24 years ago. How many baseball stadiums were built with a roof 24 years ago? Answer - one. The first domed baseball stadium was Rogers Centre in Toronto, built in 1989. Globe Life Park in Arlington was built in 1992.Check your facts before bloviating. |
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Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 07:39:49 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by Dave on Thu May 26 07:17:47 2016. So taxpayers are paying for it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 07:41:12 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by Dave on Thu May 26 07:27:38 2016. The first domed baseball stadium was the Astrodome in 1965. You didn't say "retractable" for some reason. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu May 26 09:16:31 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 07:41:12 2016. Yep, and a few other fixed-dome stadiums in between (Olympic Stadium in Montreal, although ironically, that was supposed to be the first retractable roof stadium (albeit with a different retractable method than what we are now used to), but it didn't work out, Metrodome in Minneapolis (gone now), Kingdome in Seattle (also gone)). I agree that Dave probably meant retractable. |
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Posted by WillD on Thu May 26 11:28:52 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 07:39:49 2016. ... and because Texas is a loser taker state, any time their taxpayers "pay" for something it's really the rest of the nation kicking in that money. |
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Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu May 26 12:00:00 2016, in response to Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by DAND124 on Thu May 26 02:21:55 2016. They just opened their current ballpark 22 years ago. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu May 26 12:03:06 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 26 02:42:29 2016.  Excellent book.
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu May 26 12:31:53 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by WillD on Thu May 26 11:28:52 2016. iawtp |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu May 26 12:32:24 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 26 04:19:07 2016. well |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 26 16:47:56 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu May 26 09:16:31 2016. and the Roman Colosseum before that. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 26 17:03:38 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu May 26 12:00:00 2016. so?They want a new one. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 26 17:09:20 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu May 26 12:03:06 2016. and a good website to go with it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 26 17:23:35 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 07:39:49 2016. Maybe he misspelled "tacks?" :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 26 17:24:56 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu May 26 12:03:06 2016. Precisely. For what people pay every month for ESPN alone, you'd think that the major leagues would be paying localities to let them have a stadium. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu May 26 17:39:33 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 26 17:03:38 2016. Geez, if they're going to make it traditional-looking, at least have it last long enough for there to be some traditions. :-) |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu May 26 18:01:14 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 26 17:24:56 2016. Not one penny of taxpayer money should go to pay for stadiums, ballparks or arenas. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu May 26 18:07:06 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu May 26 18:01:14 2016. iawtp |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 26 18:18:43 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by 3-9 on Thu May 26 17:39:33 2016. Traditions don't generate profits.The current Rangers ballpark is not Wrigley Field or Fenway Park where people pay to go for the sake of experiencing the ballpark itself. It's a tired faux-retro 90's creation like Turner Field in Atlanta or The Jake in Cleveland. The Rangers smartly want the taxpayers to foot the bill so that club shareholders can reap greater profits with zero risk. Wouldn't you do the same in their place? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 26 18:19:44 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu May 26 18:01:14 2016. So what are you gonna do about it? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 26 18:23:41 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu May 26 18:01:14 2016. Given the wads of money they make, they can certainly build their own. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu May 26 19:08:45 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 26 18:23:41 2016. What it amounts to is blackmail. These owners are telling cities you either build us a ballpark or we're moving. I'd say bye. Have a nice trip. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu May 26 19:10:03 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 26 18:19:44 2016. Are you playing devil's advocate? |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu May 26 19:12:34 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 26 18:18:43 2016. Dunno, I would think I would try to market my team and stadium better. And maybe win more ball games. :-) |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu May 26 19:15:37 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 26 18:18:43 2016. One exception would be if there were major defects to the stadium, like structural flaws that would make the stadium not worth saving. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 26 19:30:57 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by 3-9 on Thu May 26 19:15:37 2016. why should the Rangers wait until there are structural flaws in their current ballpark to move into a new venue that will immediately generate more revenue?No business would wait for its current factory, store, warehouse or office HQ to be falling apart when taxpayers are willing to foot the bill for a newer and more profitable up-to-date facility. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu May 26 19:39:17 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 26 19:30:57 2016. Whether it will generate more revenue is not guaranteed. Also, having the taxpayers foot the bill every 20 years is not a good way to guarantee fans. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 26 19:43:14 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by 3-9 on Thu May 26 19:39:17 2016. Whether it will generate more revenue is not guaranteed.There is zero risk on the Rangers' part. That is itself a guarantee. Also, having the taxpayers foot the bill every 20 years is not a good way to guarantee fans. Having a new stadium every 20 years is a GREAT way to guarantee new fans. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 26 19:45:46 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 26 19:43:14 2016. How is new stadium drawing for Marlins? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu May 26 19:49:01 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by Chicagomotorman on Thu May 26 19:08:45 2016. iawtp |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 26 19:49:55 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 26 19:45:46 2016. Who cares if it's drawing.?It still hugely more profitable for them then the rented dump they used to play in. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu May 26 20:02:41 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 26 19:49:55 2016. How do you know it's hugely more profitable if you don't know how many more people are attending games? |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Thu May 26 23:57:52 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu May 26 18:01:14 2016. I agree cities have always drawn the short end of the stick paying for stadiums ESPECIALLY when that team's owner will own that stadium(ex FL Marlin's new stadium). But as long as cities line up to finance teams stadiums/arena's it will always happen. And for existing cities with team no politician want to be the one who let the _____'s pack up and leave town. |
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Posted by WillD on Fri May 27 07:56:14 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by Dave on Thu May 26 07:27:38 2016. Safeco field in Seattle opened seven years later in 1999, but IINM that was due to problems with the financing. I believe it was being designed with a retractable roof in the early 1990s, but problems with securing municipal bonds and the defeat of a ballot measure delayed construction into the late 90s. Globe Life could easily have been built with a retractable roof in the early 90s, I'm not sure why you're quite so defensive about this. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri May 27 09:12:45 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu May 26 12:00:00 2016. They just opened their current ballpark 22 years ago.And it will be 26 years old in its last season (2020). Arlington Stadium only lasted 28 years. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri May 27 10:33:04 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 26 07:39:49 2016. Have been for 27 years and will be for the next 30! |
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Posted by Dave on Fri May 27 10:38:32 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by WillD on Fri May 27 07:56:14 2016. Not defensive at all. |
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Posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri May 27 11:10:49 2016, in response to Re: Arlington city council approves plan for new Texas Rangers retractable-roof stadium, posted by Dave on Thu May 26 07:17:47 2016. But taxes none the less. |
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