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Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue May 24 09:04:53 2016

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A new low for the bottom feeding Obama administration. VA Secretary of Veteran's Affairs, Bob McDonald, just compared waiting for medical treatment at the VA to being no worse than waiting for a ride at Disneyland. 😬

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 24 10:47:22 2016, in response to Welcome To Disneyland, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue May 24 09:04:53 2016.

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Actually, the VA hospital system, according to my veteran relatives, does a pretty good job of providing timely care. Yes, some minor or elective procedures require a waiting period, but not major, emergent, or prenatal care.

Oh, and that "bottom feeding Obama Administration" you smear so gleefully has:

Given us 72 months of uninterrupted economic growth

Completed the Pacific Trade Agreement, the largest such economic pact in history

Signed the ONLY nuclear-arms control treaty with Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union

Opened our military to lesbian and gay service people, who can now wear their country's uniform openly and proudly

Killed Osama Bin Laden, the 9/11 mastermind

Was the first administration to fight pirates on the high seas since the Tyler administration, making international merchant shipping both safe and far less costly

Performed the first real, comprehensive overhaul of our healthcare system since LBJ (which, IMO, doesn't go far enough, saving countless human lives

Opened up Cuba

Rescued the auto and banking industries from the looming depression left behind by the outgoing Bush administration

Captured or killed dozens of top ISIS leaders

Oh, and restored funding for Amtrak--twice--despite the GOP's best efforts...among many, many other things.

Some "bottom feeder"!







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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue May 24 10:57:07 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 24 10:47:22 2016.

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Why are you so anxious to change the subject? So you allege that your supposed "military relatives" are satisfied with the performance of the VA so we are supposed to discount thousands who speak to the contrary - including the incompetent president who acknowledged the problem years ago but has found no time between his legacy tours and his apology tours to actually do something about it.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 24 11:12:13 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by R2Chinatown on Tue May 24 10:57:07 2016.

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The White House seriously disagrees with you on that.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue May 24 11:16:27 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 24 11:12:13 2016.

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Really? Now isn't that shocking.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 24 11:25:27 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by R2Chinatown on Tue May 24 11:16:27 2016.

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I tend to agree with them. Not you. You don't seem to have anything to back up your outlandish statements. Like proff.

Yes, there were problems, they are being remediated and yet there will always be problems. Why? Because nothing is fookin perfect, that's why!

The average wait time to see a dermatologist for an initial appointment in America is eight weeks. This being one of the most popular specialties there is these days, yet the demand cannot be met. For a non life threatening condition, wait times are normal.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue May 24 11:30:26 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by bingbong on Tue May 24 11:25:27 2016.

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Yes and all the vets who died or are dying waiting for treatment are a figment of their imagination. By the way, I don't care who you agree with. History has shown you to be wrong far more often than you are correct.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 24 11:36:38 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by R2Chinatown on Tue May 24 11:30:26 2016.

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Elaborate. With dates and locations.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by Dave on Tue May 24 11:51:43 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by bingbong on Tue May 24 11:36:38 2016.

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307,000 veterans may have died awaiting Veterans Affairs health care, report says


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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by Dave on Tue May 24 14:17:25 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by bingbong on Tue May 24 14:19:17 2016.

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Keep blaming Reagan. These vets died on BO's watch


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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 24 14:19:17 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by Dave on Tue May 24 11:51:43 2016.

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Your article ttalks about people that hadn't been procssed going back into the eighties. That's Reagans problem. Care to discuss how long this has been going on? Seems a bit more relevant to me. This is NOT a problem caused by the Obama Administration. It is a long term ongoing issue most likely caused by chronic underfunding, and it isn't the only government agency that has this problem.

To wit...

Another veteran who passed away in 1988 was found to have an unprocessed record lingering in 2014, the investigation found.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 24 14:26:40 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by Dave on Tue May 24 14:17:25 2016.

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The President is not a doctor, so cannot be responsible for patients. Longstanding bureaucratic issues that he inherited and is working to see corrected are the problem. We didn't see several republican presidents do anything about any of these problems, which we knew were ongoing. He never should have inherited their mess to begin with.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by Dave on Tue May 24 14:43:14 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by bingbong on Tue May 24 14:26:40 2016.

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Lulz. But you had no problem blaming Reagan for the problem.

LOL! Not too hypocritical of you, is it?

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 24 15:12:41 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by Dave on Tue May 24 14:43:14 2016.

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The problem goes back to reagan. You don't have a problem with that?

I don't recall anything like this before Reagn came in and decimated budgets.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by italianstallion on Tue May 24 15:21:40 2016, in response to Welcome To Disneyland, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue May 24 09:04:53 2016.

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That's actually not what he said. But nice try.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by SMAZ on Tue May 24 16:18:36 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 24 10:47:22 2016.

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The VA system has consistently been ranked as the best hospital chain in America.

If private hospitals were subjected to FOIA laws, people's heads would catch on fire once they found about all the dying.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by Dave on Tue May 24 16:36:30 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by bingbong on Tue May 24 15:12:41 2016.

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The problem goes back to reagan.

WABB!

The VA didn't begin collecting data until 1995. So how do you know the problem goes back to Reagan? Who was president in from 1993 to 2001? Oh yeah, Slick Willie!



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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by TerrApin Station on Tue May 24 17:33:47 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by bingbong on Tue May 24 11:36:38 2016.

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Of when you've been wrong?

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 24 17:43:21 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by Dave on Tue May 24 16:36:30 2016.

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i doubt that. Seems so many of the cases ited in your articles go back to the eighties.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 24 17:49:41 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by italianstallion on Tue May 24 15:21:40 2016.

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R2 has cognitive difficulties.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue May 24 20:00:21 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 24 17:49:41 2016.

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Now that's typical. I raise a political issue and the best you can do is come back with a personal attack. I guess that explains why bingbong is on subchat all day. When it comes to having a real man, for her, this is as close as it gets.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 24 20:07:37 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by R2ChinaTown on Tue May 24 20:00:21 2016.

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No, you raised the usual bullshit and didn't read. Looks like you didn't get the point there either. And you, a "real man?" Talking about "personal attacks?" Hahahahaha!



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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by Dave on Tue May 24 21:02:41 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by bingbong on Tue May 24 17:43:21 2016.

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You doubt that? ROTFLMAO! The dates come straight from a VA IG report.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by The Silence on Tue May 24 21:22:45 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by italianstallion on Tue May 24 15:21:40 2016.

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I did listen to the audio clip and that was the impression I got out of it. "when you get you care is unimportant, so long as it's good." our service members deserve "good AND prompt".

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 24 21:46:46 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by The Silence on Tue May 24 21:22:45 2016.

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Then they need more funding in order to tighten the services available to the need. That ain't happening.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by Dave on Tue May 24 21:58:22 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by TerrApin Station on Tue May 24 17:33:47 2016.

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LOL!

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by Express Rider on Tue May 24 22:45:53 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue May 24 10:47:22 2016.

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VA hospital in Northport, LI took very good care of my father.
It was a teaching hospital - interns were from Stony Brook.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue May 24 22:46:27 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by Dave on Tue May 24 21:02:41 2016.

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WARNING: Confusing Bingbong with facts will result in strange behaviors.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 24 22:48:06 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by Dave on Tue May 24 21:02:41 2016.

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And are for the most part from isolated regions and hospitals.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by R2Chinatown on Tue May 24 22:49:11 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by bingbong on Tue May 24 22:48:06 2016.

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LOL -

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by Dave on Tue May 24 22:55:57 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by bingbong on Tue May 24 22:48:06 2016.

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Lulz. Keep floundering....

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by bingbong on Tue May 24 23:14:17 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by Dave on Tue May 24 22:55:57 2016.

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We all know you have a problem with facts. I'd say we add scale to that list.

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Re: Welcome To Disneyland

Posted by Dave on Tue May 24 23:43:08 2016, in response to Re: Welcome To Disneyland, posted by bingbong on Tue May 24 23:14:17 2016.

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You're welcome to look up and read the VA IG report like I did. You can find it on the web.

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