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Posted by bingbong on Tue May 3 13:09:40 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 11:42:03 2016. Seriously. Go visit another websimte. It's a big internet and people have lulz all over. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue May 3 14:22:11 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by bingbong on Tue May 3 13:09:40 2016. Klutz! |
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Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39% |
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Posted by Dave on Tue May 3 17:43:29 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by bingbong on Tue May 3 11:03:49 2016. Lulz! Did you read the headline of the story? |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue May 3 18:16:50 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Dave on Tue May 3 17:43:29 2016. You mean (copypasta)Trump Change Trump Change: 89% of GOP Voters Now Say Trump Is Likely Nominee Moar lulz. If you get tired of English cooking, LaBussola is a fabulous Continental Italian spot, just off Trafalgar Square. Because you have to eat nevertheless. |
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Re: Any Republican is toast in November |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue May 3 19:55:48 2016, in response to Trump is toast in November, posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon May 2 19:34:09 2016. The Democrats need to win all the states (and DC) that they've won in the past six presidential elections plus Florida to win the presidency in November. If the Republicans win each state they have won in the past 6 presidential elections, they somehow have to find 168 more electoral votes to get to 270. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue May 3 21:33:19 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by bingbong on Tue May 3 18:16:50 2016. He's probably eating kedgeree. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue May 3 22:02:11 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by SMAZ on Tue May 3 21:33:19 2016. Actually, if you're into fish, kedgeree ain't all that awful. It isn't haggis. :)True British dining, if you're not having a Stargazey pie, would be this ... 
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Posted by Dave on Wed May 4 01:37:42 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by bingbong on Tue May 3 18:16:50 2016. Pretty much in London just to crash for each night. Out early on the train to visit out of town railroad museums and the like, back at night around 9 and grab some takeaway from M&S to bring back to the flat. Take a shower, eat while checking email, and then grab a few hours of sleep. Wash, rinse, repeat. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed May 4 10:53:20 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Dave on Wed May 4 01:37:42 2016. I guess you flew DFW-LHR on AA? Hopefully you got the 77W (777-323ER?) |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 4 13:28:45 2016, in response to Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Dave on Tue May 3 01:06:38 2016. The consensus of current polling exactly mimics Obama vs Romney in every single state. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 4 14:22:52 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by AlM on Wed May 4 13:28:45 2016. I think we will wind up between the 2nd and 3rd map there. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 4 15:00:31 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Joe V on Wed May 4 14:22:52 2016. I expect it to wind up very similar to 2012. I don't know of a single 2012 Obama supporter who now supports Trump. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 4 15:07:59 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by AlM on Wed May 4 15:00:31 2016. There is far more of a hate-Hillary complex among male Reagan Democrats in industrial areas than anti-Obama. If Kasich is the VP, Ohio could go for Trump. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 4 15:12:14 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Joe V on Wed May 4 15:07:59 2016. Yes, Ohio could go for Trump. But that's about it.The Hillary haters are almost all Obama haters. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 16:16:32 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Joe V on Wed May 4 15:07:59 2016. There are no more Reagan Democrats. Those who are still alive have not voted Democratic since 1980. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 4 16:20:20 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 16:16:32 2016. It doesn't matter if they are still alive. Reagan-Democrats is a TERM used to describe such rustbelt blue collars.They are there. That is why Trump won big over Cruz in bible-thumping Indiana, as Sanders also beat Clinton. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed May 4 16:43:46 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by AlM on Wed May 4 15:00:31 2016. I expect it to wind up very similar to 2012. I don't know of a single 2012 Obama supporter who now supports Trump.So what you get will be a Republican Congress and Mitch McConnell again vowing to make Clinton a single term president. What a glorious prospect! Small wonder Clinton evokes such enthusiasm! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 16:49:00 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Joe V on Wed May 4 16:20:20 2016. It does matter if they are still alive. Except in Chicago, dead people can't vote.As I just said, these people haven't voted Democratic since 1980. They are not a factor. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 16:51:34 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed May 4 16:43:46 2016. The Democrats held the Senate after 2008 and 2012 and made gains both times. Chuck Schumer will be the majority leader. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 16:53:29 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by AlM on Wed May 4 15:00:31 2016. I don't know of a single 2012 Obama supporter who now supports Trump.Based on what I know about you, I would not expect you too. It's not about converting Obama supporters. It's about Trump attracting elements who have not been energized before. Look at me. I did not vote in the primaries and don't support Trump, and I'm portrayed here as some kind of Dittohead staunch conservative. And Trump is doing find without me. I don't know a single person who voted against Obama in 2008 and 2012 who support Trump. They all wanted someone else, but not Trump. Obama did an amazing job of getting out the minority vote, black in particular. Black turnout will drop slightly in Florida, Virginia, and Ohio. Whoever wins Dem primary, will almost have to have a black VP. An all white ticket would not work. Gov Patrick available for VP? |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 16:53:30 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed May 4 16:43:46 2016. Chances are good for a Democratic Senate and possibly the House.It's still all premature. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 4 16:54:07 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 16:49:00 2016. You are missing the point. Others have replaced them and think the same way. And yes they have voted Deomcrat since 1980. They have voted Democrat EXCEPT for Reagan. That is why Reagan won - twice. That is why Republican have lost the popular vote in 5 of the last 6 Presidential elections. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 4 16:56:26 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed May 4 16:43:46 2016. Senate Republican seat math is bad for them in 2016, about as bad as it was for Democrats in 2012. Cruz Republicans will brood and not vote in November. Democrats have a good shot at making Schumer the majority leader. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 4 16:57:48 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 16:53:30 2016. Gerry mandering is too severe for the Dems to take the House. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 16:57:53 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Joe V on Wed May 4 16:54:07 2016. I disagree. The reason that Democrats have won the popular vote since 2000 (except in 2004) is due to changed demographics. The Reagan Democrats are dying off and being replaced by people voting for Democrats. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 16:59:18 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Joe V on Wed May 4 16:57:48 2016. True. We need to focus on the 2018-2020 state elections. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 4 17:04:04 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by LuchAAA on Wed May 4 16:53:29 2016. Trump's approval rating among blacks, Asians, Hispanics is so bad, the Dems don't have to do a thing.Trump has like 9% Hispanic support. Dubya got 40%. 44% is required to win election today. I think Hillary will pick Elizabeth Warren, so as to cleanse herself of closeness to Wall Street, or Bernie to get those votes whose jobs have gone to Asia and Mexico. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed May 4 17:05:24 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 16:59:18 2016. I think Dems are stuck with that problem until 2022. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 17:08:48 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Joe V on Wed May 4 17:04:04 2016. Those elections are important for the redistricting that takes effect in 2022. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 17:19:08 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed May 4 17:08:48 2016. Which is why the downticket matters. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 17:20:50 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Joe V on Wed May 4 16:57:48 2016. It's possible, should trump continue in his nutty ways, that enough RWers will be compelled to stay home to possibly flip the House. Yes, it's a longshot. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed May 4 18:34:45 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed May 4 16:43:46 2016. So what you get will be a Republican Congress and Mitch McConnell again vowing to make Clinton a single term president.What a glorious prospect! Small wonder Clinton evokes such enthusiasm! And if Sanders had become the candidate and won the election he would be vowing to make Sanders a 1-term president. So what is different about that? |
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Posted by R30A on Wed May 4 18:39:43 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Joe V on Wed May 4 16:54:07 2016. The Reagan Democrats voted for Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain, and Romney. They are already out of the blue equation |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Wed May 4 20:11:36 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 16:53:30 2016. You are correct - much as you usually are. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed May 4 22:33:32 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by AlM on Wed May 4 18:34:45 2016. if Sanders had become the candidate and won the election he would be vowing to make Sanders a 1-term president.I'm pretty sure that Sanders would be a single term president because of his age. The same holds for Clinton and Trump. This is the baby boomer generation's last hurrah. Regarding Congress and the gerrymandered House. This was accomplished by making fewer overwhelming Democratic districts and more marginally Republican ones. A Democrat who appeals to Republicans (the semi-sane ones) has a good chance of altering that dynamic. That's Sanders' forte not Clinton's. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed May 4 22:35:52 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 16:53:30 2016. Chances are good for a Democratic SenateA super majority of 60 reliable Democrats is required to get anything through the Senate. The Democrats' chances are not that good. |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed May 4 23:17:22 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed May 4 22:33:32 2016. Lulz. The biggest wave of babyboomers are approaching 60. We're likely to see more for years to come. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed May 4 23:25:35 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed May 4 22:33:32 2016. More accurately, this is GenX' last hurrah. There's a large number of boomers who will be around another decade or two and the Millenials are now the largest voting block of all. Sanders and his politics may be down, but definitely not out. The Mitch McConnells are on their way out though. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 5 02:01:06 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by AlM on Wed May 4 15:00:31 2016. It'll be like the 2008 map plus the addition of Missouri, Montana and maybe Arizona for the Democratic nominee. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 5 02:09:52 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed May 4 22:33:32 2016. This is the baby boomer generation's last hurrah.People born in the 50's and early 60's will still be running in future elections. Bernie was the last somewhat credible candidate from the Silent Generation. That generation shall remain "presidentless". Their only major party nominees have been Mondale, Dukakis, Kerry and McCain. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 5 02:30:22 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 5 02:09:52 2016. actually, there is ONE possibility that a "Silent" can become the next President.Anyone here care to guess it? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 5 02:31:16 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 5 02:30:22 2016. Joe has said many times since the death of his son that he's not interested. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu May 5 02:33:05 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 5 02:31:16 2016. He'd still become the next President should Obama die or resign between now and Jan 20. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 5 02:37:46 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by SMAZ on Thu May 5 02:33:05 2016. Correct. From what I gather of his many turndowns, he wants to collect his retirement once he's done here and doesn't want to go through the whole campaign thing. They begged him, so I hear. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu May 5 04:29:46 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 10:25:29 2016. 1. I see nothing wrong with that. The only people who have anything to fear are the illegal aliens.2. he's not going to literally do that. Even if he said that he was. 3. Right now, muslim terrorists are a problem. Bigger than the uninformed public thinks. 4. It's the typical Liberal suppression of free speech. Whaaaa! The bad man says things that I don't agree with, so I MUST block other people from hearing what he has to say! |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu May 5 04:30:52 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by bingbong on Tue May 3 11:19:53 2016. RW or not, the videos are out there for everyone to view. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu May 5 04:32:47 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon May 2 23:16:29 2016. She'll be charged in a few months. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu May 5 04:33:16 2016, in response to Re: Trump is toast in November, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue May 3 09:52:53 2016. uh..... YES.... |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 07:31:40 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed May 4 22:35:52 2016. There are legislative "nuclear" options if McConnell continues to sit there like a bump. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 07:33:50 2016, in response to Re: Trump is leading Clinton 41%-39%, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed May 4 22:33:32 2016. Baby Boomers will live longer than the Greatest Generation parents.Millenials will revert to the mean. They were brought up on fast food. BB's were not. |
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