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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 12:38:50 2016, in response to New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Feb 4 22:32:07 2016.

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I have changed my mind on this issue. Most people are trustworthy enough, a photo ID to vote is in fact unnecessary.

Also, since virtually everyone knows how to drive, a driver's license is totally unnecessary.


And why do we really need a photo ID to buy alcohol? I mean after all, it is only liquid.

And why do we need a photo ID to fly? There hasn't been a hijacking in this country almost 14 and a half years.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans?

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Feb 5 12:40:00 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 5 11:46:18 2016.

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Well, as they say, "if you don't grow up by your 50s, there's no longer a need to." Selkirk just takes things so literally.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Feb 5 12:44:17 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 5 11:59:00 2016.

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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 12:44:27 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 5 04:57:49 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
"And was she in the Ozarks or the Blue Ridge?"

Prejudiced against people who live there.


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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 12:45:34 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Feb 5 10:04:45 2016.

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Who's ALM?

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 12:48:26 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 5 06:06:06 2016.

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How can you be a RINO, when you never were a Republican.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 12:50:00 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Feb 5 07:57:33 2016.

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lol

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 12:53:17 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by SMAZ on Fri Feb 5 10:18:32 2016.

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And the party of the president who gave that order was?

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 12:58:12 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 5 11:07:42 2016.

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Illinois doesn't either. But every time I go and vote, I go into my wallet, and I show the election judge my photo ID.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 12:59:38 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 12:38:50 2016.

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bump

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 5 13:04:05 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Feb 5 12:44:17 2016.

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wake up white man

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Feb 5 13:06:35 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 5 13:04:05 2016.

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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 5 13:13:22 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Feb 5 13:06:35 2016.

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wake up white man

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 5 13:14:15 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 5 13:13:22 2016.

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bump

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 13:22:36 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 5 13:14:15 2016.

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bum

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 5 13:43:14 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 13:22:36 2016.

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LOL

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 5 13:44:21 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 5 11:07:42 2016.

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same in california IAWTP

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 5 14:04:56 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 5 11:18:13 2016.

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As I've said before, gun permits are photo ID issued by the state, school IDs are not and leases are not photo IDs at all.

This doesn't imply that voter ID laws are a good idea. They're not.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 5 14:25:31 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 12:45:34 2016.

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Mr. Toothpaste

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 5 14:27:28 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 5 11:45:38 2016.

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Guess you never heard of the Fourteenth Amendment.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 5 14:27:59 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 12:58:12 2016.

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Why bother?

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 5 14:43:26 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 12:38:50 2016.

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Driving, the purchase of alcohol, and flying are not Constitutional rights.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 5 15:56:58 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 5 14:04:56 2016.

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If the student is attending a state school it is.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 16:17:28 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Feb 5 09:20:59 2016.

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lol

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 16:17:50 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 5 14:25:31 2016.

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lol

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 16:20:05 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 5 14:43:26 2016.

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No kidding.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 16:22:18 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 5 14:27:59 2016.

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Because it should be the law. Despite the fact that one of the election judges is my down the hall neighbor.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 5 16:25:36 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 16:20:05 2016.

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Which is why it's OK to require ID for them.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 5 18:14:17 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 5 07:00:53 2016.

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Wasn't talking about New York state, we have facilities.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 5 18:17:38 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Feb 5 10:22:45 2016.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 5 18:18:53 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 12:44:27 2016.

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I'd like to see their situations improve. How about you?

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 5 18:23:15 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Feb 5 07:57:33 2016.

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Yep! And the senior wagon will still be delivering me to the polling place to nullify your vote. How about them apples? ;)

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Feb 5 22:04:57 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 5 18:18:53 2016.

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I'm sure they are very content.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Feb 5 22:09:58 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 5 18:18:53 2016.

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Give them a double helping of conservative philosophy (not that namby-pamby Goldwater stuff) and it's bound to improve! :-)

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Feb 5 22:35:23 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 5 13:04:05 2016.

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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 5 22:41:14 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Feb 5 22:35:23 2016.

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wake up white man

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 5 22:56:49 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 5 22:41:14 2016.

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bump

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Feb 5 22:59:59 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 5 22:56:49 2016.

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Burp

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 5 23:08:25 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by 3-9 on Fri Feb 5 22:09:58 2016.

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Yee-haw. :)



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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 5 23:31:07 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 5 15:56:58 2016.

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There is not a state standard for student IDs. Of course, if they want fair voter ID, they should come up with guidelines such that compliant school IDs would be eligible. But we all know why they won't do that.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 23:35:14 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 5 23:08:25 2016.

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Stereotyping.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 5 23:59:17 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 23:35:14 2016.

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It's the "liberal" thing to do. (grin)

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 6 02:14:32 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Feb 5 22:59:59 2016.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 6 02:18:27 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 5 23:59:17 2016.

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lol

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 6 09:18:04 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 5 23:31:07 2016.

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In NY, they,were tid to Social Security number. That's enough of an idntifier that any board of elections could trace.

Fortunately up here we understand that 31 incides in a billion votes does not make a crisis worthy of noting, much less legislating.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Feb 6 12:19:11 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 5 13:04:05 2016.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Feb 7 09:33:46 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Feb 5 13:04:05 2016.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Feb 7 11:20:58 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by AlM on Fri Feb 5 09:55:30 2016.

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When elections are being decided by razor thin margins, having the 5 or 10 percent of the population without IDs being unable to vote is significant.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Feb 7 11:21:42 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 16:22:18 2016.

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No it should not.

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Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Feb 7 11:22:42 2016, in response to Re: New evidence that voter ID laws ‘skew democracy’ in favor of white Republicans, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Feb 5 12:38:50 2016.

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Voting is a constitutional right. The other things you list are not.

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