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Posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 21:16:49 2015 One of the best ways to "Make America Great Again" is actually to invest in America:http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-calls-additional-275-billion-modernize-infrastructure/story?id=35477628 |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 29 21:32:41 2015, in response to Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 21:16:49 2015. Right. You'd think a "successful businessman" like Trump would know that. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 21:51:27 2015, in response to Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 21:16:49 2015. That'd be nice, but the Corporate States of America would rather invest elsewhere, especially in those communist countries rather than here. In 2014 alone, $4.92 TRILLION.Why on earth would anybody want to invest in OUR nation? Where's the profit in that? 
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 21:53:41 2015, in response to Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 21:16:49 2015. Would that be some of her money that she's made questionably over the years or just another liberal scheme to tax and spend your money. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:04:57 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 21:51:27 2015. As a loyal employee of the corporation, does your outrage also include your current employer, APPLE  |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 22:14:34 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:04:57 2015. Your side LETS them do it and won't stop it. Your move. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:17:33 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 22:14:34 2015. Your side did nothing to change it when they controlled both the congress and the White House but you are avoiding the question, Yes or no, does that include your current employer |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 22:20:21 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:17:33 2015. I've already answered the question several times. Are you an amnesiac too?YES ... I disagree with it. Wall Street on the other hand DEMANDS it until your guys tell them to stop. And now, on to "corporate inversion" which is ANOTHER thing your kids are doing shit about. Look up "fiduciary responsibility" ... if one company does it and yours doesn't, the stockholders can toss your ass out the door. Only a change to the law will make this stop. |
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Posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 22:20:23 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:17:33 2015. No.That's NOT the question here. The question here is: "Do you agree with companies investing overseas but not domestically?" Answer that question. Finger pointing, "well your side does it too" is what elementary school kids do. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:23:10 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 22:20:23 2015. Look tony or bingbong or whoever you want to be tonight. You do not get to tell me what questions I ask. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 22:30:10 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:23:10 2015. Wow. What a petulant little bitch. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:32:12 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 22:30:10 2015. That's no way to speak about your wife. |
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Posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 22:37:15 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 22:32:12 2015. For the love of all things almighty, I'm not married to Kevin.My wife's name is Colette. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Nov 29 22:47:09 2015, in response to Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 21:16:49 2015. 19 trillion in debt is not high enough? |
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Posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 22:50:22 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Nov 29 22:47:09 2015. So you don't agree with investing money in America?I guess our roads and bridges will continue to rot and crumble and our corporations will continue to invest overseas as opposed to in America. That's not "Making America Great Again" and instead that's "Making Corporations Wealthier While Duping the American Voter". |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Nov 29 22:51:38 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 22:50:22 2015. Again, 19 trillion is not high enough for you? Yes or no? |
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Posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 23:12:43 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Nov 29 22:51:38 2015. 19 trillion is too high. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 29 23:13:46 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by R2Chinatown on Sun Nov 29 21:53:41 2015. The latter. It's known as taxing for the common good - something I know you don't believe in, but is enshrined in our Constitution. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Nov 29 23:27:52 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 23:12:43 2015. Then we need to raise taxes, in a fair progressive manner, to pay for these investments.The infrastructure will return far more than it costs. Can't say the same for tax cuts and pointless military invasions. |
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Posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 23:31:18 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by bingbong on Sun Nov 29 23:27:52 2015. I'm absolutely okay with that.He was asking if $19 trillion debt is too high and I agreed with him. However, he favors slash and burn cutting where as I favor a combination of cuts and tax increases. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sun Nov 29 23:35:19 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 22:37:15 2015. Okay, you convinced me now. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 23:55:49 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 29 23:13:46 2015. He thinks that it's better that we pay taxes to China and Saudi. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Nov 30 00:05:04 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 29 23:55:49 2015. Might I remind you that it's you who has the ethics problem. It's you who works for a company that avoids taxes in just the way you are complaining about. It's you who comains that companies do it but then say what your employer does is exploiting loopholes in the tax code. If you really believed what you say you'd have some seld respect and quit. I have no such issues with my employer. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 30 00:33:05 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 23:31:18 2015. Lulz. Problem is his approach leaves a lot of vulnerable Americans in the lurch. We have to take care of our own, first and foremost. Still, interest rates are minimal, so the payback will amount to a whole lot less than it would if we wait any longer. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 30 00:46:53 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Nov 30 00:05:04 2015. Heh. The company I'm working for is paying taxes and hiring up people here in New York thanks to me. Well, Jimmy Chang, I have to tip my hat here to you. You are the densest character I've encountered in my very long life. You definitely can't be Train Dude because even he showed some rare moments of clarity however short-lived they were. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Nov 30 01:17:09 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by bingbong on Sun Nov 29 23:27:52 2015. Progressive is not fair. A flat rate is. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Nov 30 01:17:54 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by TonyG on Sun Nov 29 23:31:18 2015. CUT TAXES! |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Nov 30 01:18:19 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 30 00:33:05 2015. Klutz. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 30 01:20:10 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Nov 30 01:17:09 2015. I disagree. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Nov 30 01:21:35 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 30 01:20:10 2015. Of course you do. You're a liberal. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 30 01:24:35 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Nov 30 01:21:35 2015. I am a #progressiveconservative |
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Posted by TonyG on Mon Nov 30 01:31:41 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 30 01:20:10 2015. And I agree.#imaliberallibertarian |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 30 01:41:53 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by TonyG on Mon Nov 30 01:31:41 2015. You're not a douchebag like Joe V. I genuinely dislike that cunt.Meanwhile you're married(kind of) and should get a tax benefit while singles don't. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 30 01:43:20 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Nov 30 01:17:09 2015. Wrong. A flat tax takes far more from the poor than it does the rich. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 30 03:23:49 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 30 01:43:20 2015. As a masculinist my reasons for being against a flat tax differ from yours. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 30 06:54:54 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Nov 30 01:17:54 2015. CUT TAXES!....and cut CTA retiree benefits to pay for them. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Nov 30 07:33:40 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Nov 30 01:17:54 2015. Then your state taxes will go up because the amount of aid to states will go down. I know people who work for the government and while agency budgets are flatlined for five years, Congress is increasing the amount of grants to states and cutting the requirements to prove that the grants are being used for their stated purpose. To cut taxes and cut the debt means these grants to states will have to be cut. With less revenue coming in states will have to raise taxes or cut services like retiree pensions from transit agencies. I think all CTA retirees should have their pensions revoked and if they were too dumb to invest in IRA, 401(k), etc. too bad so said. As a taxpayer why should Illinois residents have to pay for those capable of working but voluntarily choose not to and want to sit at home on their computers living on their government handout? |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Nov 30 08:04:32 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 30 00:46:53 2015. Wow. So explain how you are causing a multinational corporation like Apple to hire people and pay taxes. you sound like quite an important fellow in you own right but you should have that obsession with Train Dude looked into. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 30 08:41:30 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Nov 30 07:33:40 2015. Great post! |
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Posted by TonyG on Mon Nov 30 09:47:17 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Nov 30 01:41:53 2015. How am I "kind of" married? |
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Posted by TonyG on Mon Nov 30 09:50:20 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 30 01:43:20 2015. Which is exactly why the flat tax is supported by the rich.The flat tax does nothing but make the problem of income inequity worse. |
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Posted by TonyG on Mon Nov 30 09:51:50 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 30 06:54:54 2015. Don't worry. As long as he gets HIS money the others be damned according to his logic. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Nov 30 09:57:05 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by TonyG on Mon Nov 30 09:50:20 2015. Socialist!:) |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Nov 30 10:05:23 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 30 01:43:20 2015. Let's do the math. 20% of 50,000 is 10,000.20% of 200,000 is 40,000. Who is paying more in taxes? |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Nov 30 10:11:01 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Nov 30 10:05:23 2015. You're ingoring FICA, sales tax, and the basic cost of living above a subsistence level. Subtract all that out and the family with 50K in income barely has anything left to live on while the family earning 200K has plenty of spare money. |
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Posted by TonyG on Mon Nov 30 10:13:21 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 30 10:11:01 2015. Which is precisely why a flat tax will never work and if implemented it would immediately be a political hot potato.Candidates always use the idea of a flat tax as something that sounds "fair" but most aren't even stupid enough to try to implement it. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Mon Nov 30 10:15:46 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Nov 30 07:33:40 2015. You're being way too rational for him, and the like. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Nov 30 10:17:31 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Nov 30 07:33:40 2015. FYI, my pension plan is not connected to any Illinois municipal workers plan. Unlike state workers, workers contribute to it. 9% towards the pension, and 3% towards health care trust, which subsidizes retirees insurance premiums. Yes I do pay toward my insurance premium. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Nov 30 10:18:55 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 30 08:41:30 2015. Read |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Nov 30 10:19:29 2015, in response to Re: Hillary Wants to Invest in $275 Billion in America, posted by WayneJay on Mon Nov 30 10:15:46 2015. Read |
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