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$2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by Dave on Wed Sep 2 22:01:25 2015

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Thank you, President Obama


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Re: $2.9 billion down the toilet

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 2 22:42:24 2015, in response to $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by Dave on Wed Sep 2 22:01:25 2015.

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Not just "possibly". If so-called "green energy" were viable, it'd be getting all sorts of private investment and no government "loan guarantees" and direct subsidy (the grants) would be needed.

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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by WillD on Thu Sep 3 01:37:56 2015, in response to $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by Dave on Wed Sep 2 22:01:25 2015.

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So he's only got around 1000 times that amount to go before he even starts to touch Dubya's figures for money flushed down the toilet. Obama better work fast if he wants to come close to Dubya's level of waste.

And over the past 6 years how much have the fossil fuel companies received in federal largesse? In what way is that money not flushed down the toilet?

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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by Dave on Thu Sep 3 07:02:14 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by WillD on Thu Sep 3 01:37:56 2015.

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The way you knee-jerk libs always come back to blame Bush is funny as hell.

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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 3 07:26:31 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by Dave on Thu Sep 3 07:02:14 2015.

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Nope. His reaction is fair and appropriate in reply to what you posted.

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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Sep 3 07:56:17 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu Sep 3 07:26:31 2015.

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lol

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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by ClearAspect on Thu Sep 3 08:55:30 2015, in response to $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by Dave on Wed Sep 2 22:01:25 2015.

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I didnt see you complaining about Scott Walkers similar problem, so makes me wonded why you bring it up now

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Re: $2.9 billion down the toilet

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 3 09:32:42 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by Dave on Thu Sep 3 07:02:14 2015.

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You'd almost think seven years hadn't passed.

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Re: $2.9 billion down the toilet

Posted by bingbong on Thu Sep 3 09:47:58 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion down the toilet, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 3 09:32:42 2015.

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Shows you how much damage the bushpeople did, if we're just beginning to co e out of the mess they made. Took this long to clean up. For shame.

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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 3 10:08:42 2015, in response to $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by Dave on Wed Sep 2 22:01:25 2015.

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Do private equity groups not lose money on some of their investments while making up for it tenfold in others?

Our government's contribution to green energy companies in no different than how private equity operates.
You win some and you lose some.

Should the Small Business Administration be eliminated because some small businesses who received gov't aid went belly-up?





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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by Dave on Thu Sep 3 10:25:09 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 3 10:08:42 2015.

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And what solar projects did Obama win? Solyndra, Fisker, Abound, etc...all failures.

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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 3 10:26:44 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by Dave on Thu Sep 3 10:25:09 2015.

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You went over the govt's entire green energy portfolio?

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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by Dave on Thu Sep 3 10:36:59 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by SMAZ on Thu Sep 3 10:26:44 2015.

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Find me a winner, a company that's making money.

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Re: $2.9 billion down the toilet

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 3 10:53:15 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by Dave on Thu Sep 3 10:36:59 2015.

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They aren't even making money in Germany, the supposed center of such initiatives.

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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by WillD on Fri Sep 4 01:34:53 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by Dave on Thu Sep 3 07:02:14 2015.

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It's not blaming, it's comparing. $2.9 billion lost under Obama. A few trillion lost under Dubya.

But the way you jerk righties always fall back on "don't blame Dubya for his massive failure" is hilarious.

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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 4 02:07:27 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by WillD on Fri Sep 4 01:34:53 2015.

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I feel for them. They've had congress now for nearly a year and have absolutely nothing to show for it. A continuing fail and so all they have to cheer themselves up in the face of Jeb!, and Trump and the rest of their nonstop fail is picking apart the past because they have nothing of any value happening now. Gotta love it ...

So remind them of their past and rut-ro. :)

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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Sep 4 02:48:37 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by WillD on Fri Sep 4 01:34:53 2015.

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lol

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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Sep 4 02:53:23 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by Dave on Thu Sep 3 07:02:14 2015.

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bush was the worst president ever
davey from the snake of texassssss

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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Sep 4 07:17:59 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by WillD on Fri Sep 4 01:34:53 2015.

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Iawtp.

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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by Dave on Fri Sep 4 08:25:08 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 4 02:07:27 2015.

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They've had congress now for nearly a year and have absolutely nothing to show for it.

LOL! Now I know where bingbong gets her ignorance from - is there something in the water where you live that blinds people living there to the facts? Or is it just you two?

Let's see what passed last year:

1. The ABLE Act. The "Achieving A Better Life Experience Act" enacted some of the most sweeping changes U.S. policy for people with disabilities since passage of the American with Disabilities Act.

2. Congress unanimously approved legislation allowing TSA to charge only $5.60 per one-way trip and $11.20 per round trip for airport security fees.

3. Passed legislation giving border officers three overtime options. They can work 100 hours per pay period -- about two weeks -- and receive an annual 25 percent pay boost; work 90 hours and receive an annual 12.5 increase; or work no overtime.

4. Passed a $1.1 trillion spending bill

5. Set Pentagon policy for 2015, including authorizing the military to expand operations against ISIL and providing billions for the upgrade of military equipment.

6. Passed 50 tax breaks.

7. Passed four cybersecurity-related bills.

8. Passed the Death in Custody Reporting Act.

9. Set U.S. intelligence policy for the fiscal 2015.

10. Passed the Newborn Screening Saves Lives Reauthorization Act, which reauthorizes a 2007 law and authorizes new federal grants for the screening of potential congenital, genetic, and metabolic disorders in newborn babies.

11. Passed the RELIEVE Act, wherein small bank holding companies with less than $1 billion in assets can now be regulated under the Small Bank Holding Company Statement.

12. Reauthorized a VA program studying traumatic brain injuries.

And passed a host of other, less significant bills. This year Congress passed fast-track trade legislation.

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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by Dave on Fri Sep 4 08:27:05 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by WillD on Fri Sep 4 01:34:53 2015.

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$2.9 billion is just for the solar energy programs. Excluding post-9/11 military actions, what "trillions" were lost under programs triumphed by Bush?

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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Sep 4 08:50:36 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by Dave on Fri Sep 4 08:25:08 2015.

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OWN3D so good!!!!!

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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by bingbong on Fri Sep 4 09:09:20 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by Dave on Fri Sep 4 08:27:05 2015.

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Most of those "loser" companies were originally funded by bush, who started the solar investment program you're now railing against.

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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by Dave on Fri Sep 4 10:21:15 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by bingbong on Fri Sep 4 09:09:20 2015.

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What companies in particular?

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Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet

Posted by Dave on Fri Sep 4 10:21:40 2015, in response to Re: $2.9 billion possibly down the toilet, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Sep 4 08:50:36 2015.

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Funny things, facts.

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