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Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 30 17:57:40 2015 The Hill |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 30 18:03:18 2015, in response to Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 30 17:57:40 2015. So you deny state's rights? From the very article you linked to:Alaska first formally requested the change in 1975. It has often been a bipartisan legislative priority among Alaska’s congressional delegation to rename the mountain. Lisa Murkowski (R), the state’s senior senator and chairwoman of the Energy and Natural Resources Committee, which is responsible for the matter, has sponsored legislation in every session of Congress to do so since taking her seat. Did you know that Alaska is republican? |
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Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 30 18:45:48 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 30 18:03:18 2015. From the very article you linked toThat's dirty pool. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 30 18:46:48 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 30 18:45:48 2015. Yeah, the pool definitely needs more chlorine tabs. :) |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 30 19:04:23 2015, in response to Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 30 17:57:40 2015. I thought that was from the Onion, aparently not. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 30 19:06:53 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 30 19:04:23 2015. Might as well be ... "The Hill" is the republican version of the Onion. |
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Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 30 19:16:10 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 30 19:04:23 2015. Nope. Obama's in earnest on that one. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Aug 30 19:26:12 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 30 19:16:10 2015. And why not? Alaska wants it changed, Ohio doesn't. The federal government owns the place. Who rightly should have more of a say? |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Sun Aug 30 19:31:53 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 30 19:26:12 2015. The mountain is in Alaska the Alaskan reps wanted the name changed looks like a win win to me. If a congressman from Ohio wants something named after McKinnley why don't he work to name something in his own state after him. |
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Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 30 19:32:09 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 30 19:26:12 2015. Ohio of course. :)State's rights to the absurd. |
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Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 30 19:35:32 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by ftgreeneg on Sun Aug 30 19:31:53 2015. Maybe they can rename the flaming Cuyahoga River as "The Burning McKinley River?" For those who are unaware: http://clevelandhistorical.org/items/show/63#.VeOTCHCHylU |
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Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat |
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Posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 30 20:50:52 2015, in response to Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 30 17:57:40 2015. “Generally believed to be central to the Athabascan creation story, Denali is a site of significant cultural importance to many Alaska Natives,” the White House said in a Sunday fact sheet.LOL! The Left hates religion unless it's respecting the creation myths of an aboriginal tribe of 6,400. But Jerusalem isn't the capital of Israel. Ain't politics beautiful? |
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Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Sun Aug 30 21:11:10 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 30 19:35:32 2015. LOL. They can do like NYC and rename one of Cincinatti's bridges after McKinley and it's citizens can proceed to call it what they want(ex who the hell in NYC calls the Queensboro bridge Ed Koch bridge? :-) ) |
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Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 30 21:14:55 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by ftgreeneg on Sun Aug 30 21:11:10 2015. I don't even have the heart to tell them that their own Sarah Palin loves to climb ... "DENALI." :)Now if only Ohio had something taller than a landfill to name after their greatest gift to politics. Heh. |
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Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 30 22:05:18 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 30 20:50:52 2015. Typical. Just another incident of their attempt to have the present control the past, in the context they want to maintain for the present. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 30 22:17:45 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by ftgreeneg on Sun Aug 30 21:11:10 2015. I'm still hung up on who the hell in NYC refers to the 59th Street Bridge 🌉 as the Queensboro Bridge...LOL! |
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Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat |
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Posted by ftgreeneg on Mon Aug 31 00:26:39 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 30 22:17:45 2015. Well I guess they'll keep changing names till one stick...lol |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 31 04:57:27 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 30 22:17:45 2015. Everyone does. It's called the Queensborough Bridge. Tourists call it the 59th Street Bridge. |
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Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 31 07:14:27 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 31 04:57:27 2015. IAWTP. |
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Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Aug 31 07:48:54 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 31 04:57:27 2015. IAWTP |
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Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 31 08:02:35 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 31 04:57:27 2015. Maybe that's changed over time. No one called it anything other than the 59th Street Bridge back when I was in college.And why would tourists call it the 59th Street Bridge if no one else does? That name isn't on any maps or guides. |
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Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 31 08:32:37 2015, in response to Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 30 17:57:40 2015. Obama motors has been using the name, Denali for years on some of its premium models. Let's all give this a large Zzzzzzz and move on. It wasn't 0bama's idea but he's more than willing to take credit for it and divert attention from his failures in Iran. |
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Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 31 08:36:04 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Aug 30 22:17:45 2015. By the time people refer to the 59th St bridge as the Ed Koch bridge, Ed Kock will be gone more than a century. |
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Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 31 08:42:32 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 31 08:32:37 2015. The Denali model goes back to the 1990s, IIRC, nothing to do with Obama. But changing the name of the mountain is directly within his purview, as it is in a National Park. as for Iran, the treaty that was signed is diplomacy at work, rather than military action. Given the choice between war and statecraft, I'll take statecraft every time. Give your Obama-bashing a rest already. It's tired and pointless. |
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Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 31 09:12:10 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Aug 31 08:42:32 2015. I didn't say it had anything to do with obama. I said its a brand used on some obama motors models. Much like the movement to rename Mt. McKinley began while obama was still in grammar school. You really need to give your blind defense of the dummy in chief a little rest. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Aug 31 09:33:38 2015, in response to Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 30 17:57:40 2015.  |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 31 11:01:33 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by AlM on Sun Aug 30 19:26:12 2015. When I was in Alaska in 2004, pretty much all the Alaskans I encountered called it Denali. Locals generally don't call it McKinley. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 31 11:15:44 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 30 20:50:52 2015. respecting the creation myths of an aboriginal tribe of 6,400.The myths of some aboriginal tribe deserve less respect than the myths of some supposedly more advanced people? |
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Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 31 11:41:35 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 31 08:02:35 2015. I don’t know who calls it that, I just conjectured.A thread I looked up established that the use of the term “59th Street Bridge” is common among older people. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 31 11:42:44 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 31 04:57:27 2015. Nope. It's the Blackwell's Island Bridge.Don't dare call it the Ed Koch Bridge. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 31 11:58:29 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by SMAZ on Mon Aug 31 11:15:44 2015. Try naming federal property Jesus Mountain. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 31 12:00:33 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 31 11:58:29 2015. But that’s not at all analogous. Is there any mountain in the United States directly associated with Jesus? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 31 12:03:57 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 31 11:58:29 2015. Put an acute accent on the second vowel in the proper name and someone in the current regime may go for it. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 31 12:04:47 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 31 08:32:37 2015. I didn't say it was his idea. Any more than SSM was. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 31 12:07:38 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 31 08:36:04 2015. Well, they haven't renamed the city of Obama (小浜) in Japan yet. (The characters translate as "Little Beach" and are pronounced "Hsiao-pang" in Mandarin.) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 31 12:11:35 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Aug 31 09:33:38 2015. That's a Yukon. Anything more upscale from GMC gets turned into a "Denali" no matter the model, attempting to take on Lincoln without using the Cadillac make. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Mon Aug 31 12:17:47 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 30 20:50:52 2015. Youre an idiot. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 31 12:31:33 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by SLRT on Sun Aug 30 20:50:52 2015. Actually, Jerusalem is not recognized as the capital of Israel because they respect the “myths” of religions of billions, over the “myths”* of a minority religion.*Not a myth that the Beit Hamikdash was in Jerusalem at the site currently called “The Temple Mount.” The other claims to Jerusalem are more likely to be myths, particularly those of the “Religion of Peace.” |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Mon Aug 31 12:39:40 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by ClearAspect on Mon Aug 31 12:17:47 2015. I don't think he's an idiot. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 31 12:56:58 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 31 12:00:33 2015. I used an extreme example, but they lose me when they ANNOUNCED that the "creation myth" bullshit in their announcement.And "Denali" is the name in nly one language group of local Inuit. Obama is only trying to please his base and irritate others. As to the name, I like "Denali"; it sounds nice, but the politics aren't. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Aug 31 13:52:58 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 31 12:11:35 2015. Hmm, the image search brought that one up, mentioning "Yukon Denali". As you can tell, I'm not up much on SUVs (don't care for them truthfully). |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Aug 31 14:38:04 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Aug 31 13:52:58 2015. Hmm, the image search brought that one up, mentioning "Yukon Denali". As you can tell, I'm not up much on SUVs (don't care for them truthfully).It is a Yukon Denali, but there are several other Denalis. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Aug 31 14:49:15 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 31 11:58:29 2015. Try naming federal property Jesus Mountain.We have Zion and St. Elias... |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Mon Aug 31 16:25:46 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 31 12:00:33 2015. Is there any mountain in the United States directly associated with Jesus?Mountain Grove, MO? |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Mon Aug 31 16:28:29 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 31 12:31:33 2015. Not a myth that the Beit Hamikdash was in Jerusalem at the site currently called “The Temple Mount.” The other claims to Jerusalem are more likely to be myths, particularly those of the “Religion of Peace.”The "Religion of Peace" deserves the same treatment it metes out to the religious sites of its Ba'alist ancestors to be meted out to its own religious sites. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 31 16:48:02 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by kew gardens teleport on Mon Aug 31 16:25:46 2015. DUM DUM DUM DUM DUM? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 31 18:20:15 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Aug 31 13:52:58 2015. I hear you. They're properly called trucks or "jeeps". |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 31 18:21:54 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 31 12:56:58 2015. It's ironic that the name as spelled in the Latin alphabet is a slight anagram of "Denial". |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 31 22:05:46 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 31 18:21:54 2015. I believe "Denali" (and similar variations in other Inuit language groups) simply means "Big Mountain." That's the same as the Ruskies called it (in Russian of course).Not am inspired name, but it has a nice ring. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 31 22:37:28 2015, in response to Re: Obama to un-name Mount McKinley as Denali via Department of Interior executive fiat, posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 31 22:05:46 2015. When will Obama rename Mt. Everest back to Sagarmatha? or Chomolungma? |
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