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With allies like this, who needs enemies? |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Aug 27 14:34:32 2015 Turkey tipped off al-Nusra to the location of US-backed rebelsPakistan redux. Seriously, we should just start shipping weapons to the Kurds wholesale. :-( |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Aug 27 14:42:19 2015, in response to With allies like this, who needs enemies?, posted by 3-9 on Thu Aug 27 14:34:32 2015. This wouldn't have happened had the Republic remained faithful to its Kemalist roots. Impeach Erdogan and bank the AKP! |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Aug 27 14:57:56 2015, in response to Re: With allies like this, who needs enemies?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Aug 27 14:42:19 2015. You said it! Unfortunately, their Supreme Court had a chance to stop the AKP, but the idiots blew it, because they didn't want to rock the boat. :-) |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Aug 27 15:30:22 2015, in response to Re: With allies like this, who needs enemies?, posted by 3-9 on Thu Aug 27 14:57:56 2015. I have a German online acquaintance that's married to a Turk in Germany, and she's somewhat sympathetic to the AKP and its rule because the living conditions of a sizable chunk of the country have improved, and even with the shift to a more oppressive regime, the Kemalists also had a tendency to round up people who said the wrong things and throw away the key. Regardless, from a realist foreign policy standpoint, the best thing for us vis à vis Turkey would have been the liberalization of economics that came under the AKP, but under a far more secularist ruler. Coincidentally, I'd argue that Assad in power is still better than ISIS because there's not going to be some magical secular democratic government there for at least two generations. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Thu Aug 27 15:52:22 2015, in response to Re: With allies like this, who needs enemies?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Aug 27 15:30:22 2015. Regardless, from a realist foreign policy standpoint, the best thing for us vis à vis Turkey would have been the liberalization of economics that came under the AKP, but under a far more secularist ruler. Coincidentally, I'd argue that Assad in power is still better than ISIS because there's not going to be some magical secular democratic government there for at least two generations.Totally agree here. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 27 21:30:29 2015, in response to With allies like this, who needs enemies?, posted by 3-9 on Thu Aug 27 14:34:32 2015. Turkey should have been out of NATO first thing with that "election". Especially with Erdogan and his cohort Gül pulling the switcheroo by populating the top leadership in the military with Islamists. |
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