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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 02:10:03 2015 The Donald is roaring ahead in the republican popularity sellathon. I was getting worried that he might have flamed out by now. Go, Donald! Go-Go-Go! :)Trump shows staying power with surge ahead of first debate Some Republicans gleefully scripted Donald Trump's political obituary in the wake of his scathing comments about Sen. John McCain's military service earlier this month, hoping that his freewheeling presidential campaign had finally imploded. Predictions of his demise were apparently premature. Instead, Trump is gaining momentum ahead of next week's first Republican debate, a new Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll shows. The poll shows Trump with his greatest support yet nationally, as nearly a quarter of Republicans surveyed said he would be their choice as the party's presidential nominee in 2016. He has opened up a double-digit lead over his closest rival, former Florida governor Jeb Bush, who trails at 12 percent. "I’m proud to be in first place by such a wide margin in another national poll," Trump said in a statement to Reuters. Trump has surged since suffering a slight downtick in the wake of the McCain furor. The five-day rolling online poll had the real-estate mogul and reality TV star at 15 percent among Republicans on Friday before rocketing to 24.9 percent on Tuesday. "He’s not going away," said Steve Duprey, a Republican National Committee member from New Hampshire and a former McCain adviser. "There are people who think his candidacy is a flash in the pan or a flash in the moment, but I think that underestimates his appeal." Trump would seem to be a lock to be on the stage next week in Cleveland for a debate sponsored by Fox News, which will use national polls to determine which 10 of the 17 Republican candidates in the field can participate. But perhaps of greater concern to establishment Republicans, Reuters/Ipsos polling also shows that in a three-way race with Trump running as an independent in the general election, Trump would drain support from the Republican nominee and allow the Democrat, likely Hillary Clinton, to skate to victory. Trump has refused to rule out a possible independent run. In a matchup with Clinton and Bush, he would essentially tie Bush at about 23 percent among likely voters, with Clinton winning the White House with 37 percent of the vote. (About 15 percent of those polled said they were undecided or would not vote.) It is that scenario that should keep party strategists up at night. Something similar occurred in 1992, when businessman Ross Perot's independent candidacy helped thwart President George H.W. Bush's reelection bid and allowed Bill Clinton to capture the presidency with just a 43 percent plurality. Bush received the lowest percentage of the popular vote of any sitting president in 80 years. CORNERING THE MARKET In Trump's case, he appears to be cornering the market on white voters, the backbone of the current Republican Party, the poll shows. Republicans need as many white votes as possible to offset demographic shifts in the United States that have handed Democrats an electoral advantage in the last two presidential elections. In 2012, Republican Mitt Romney won almost 60 percent of the white vote, yet still lost to President Barack Obama by five million votes. A third-party bid by Trump would effectively doom any Republican's chances at the presidency, the poll shows, be it Bush, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, Florida Senator Marco Rubio or someone else. John Geer, a political scientist and an expert on public opinion at Vanderbilt University, said the poll results make sense in light of Trump’s appeal to conservatives who believe the party nominated two moderate establishment candidates in McCain and Romney. "The activists are doubly angry," Geer said. "He's capturing that anger. They're looking for a voice, and he happens to be here at the right time.” But John Feehery, a Republican strategist in Washington, cautioned not to place too much stock in Trump's surge, arguing it is largely a function of the name recognition he enjoys in light of his celebrity. "This is just 24 percent of a Republican electorate, probably most of whom probably haven’t thought much about the presidential race, have a visceral reaction to Bush, and haven’t really heard about the other candidates," he said. He expects Trump’s numbers to fall as the race intensifies and scrutiny of his candidacy increases. "The curtain has not been pulled back yet," Feehery said. "In time, people will see Trump is not who they want to have as a nominee. But that’s going to take awhile." The five-day rolling poll was based on a survey of a 425 Republicans and has a credibility interval of plus or minus 5.5 percentage points. The three-way race poll, taken at the same time, used a sample of 1,280 Americans and has a credibility interval of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points. (Additional reporting by Steve Holland; Editing by John Whitesides and Ken Wills) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 30 02:14:53 2015, in response to Yay, Trump!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 02:10:03 2015. your element is afraid.You don't have strong candidates and want this clown to be the AMerican candidate because Bush or Walker are for real. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 02:20:19 2015, in response to Re: Yay, Trump!, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 30 02:14:53 2015. What element? I'm a former republican enjoying this to no end. And you're right, as a member of NO political party, I don't have anyone to vote for so far that reflects MY political issues, so watching the two majors provide so much fail, I'm loving it. :)Poutine on a stick, yo! 
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 30 02:24:20 2015, in response to Re: Yay, Trump!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 02:20:19 2015. Trump is a clown.Fox News pumps him up because he gets ratings. Fox is numbers one in all cable for the moment and I suspect Trump is attracting viewers. Leftists like him because he's so beatable, and the Left does not have a solid candidate in Hillary or Sanders. thiw |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 03:02:13 2015, in response to Re: Yay, Trump!, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 30 02:24:20 2015. Actually, Trump is popular because republicans these days are fucking idiots who drool when the talking lamp tells them what to think. That's why I'm enjoying the crap out of this. :)He's trending hard among the white supremacists, anti-Semites, and fringe groups. He's exactly what the GOP wants to present, and they're crowding around him. He even has a major following here in a few communities as well. Been waiting for over thirty years now for the GOP to reach entropy and get some mental health. I'm convinced that "The Donald" will finally bring out the white coats and nets so they can get the treatment they need and perhaps, we can once again have a Republican party instead of this sad, never-ending side show of stupid. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 03:14:50 2015, in response to Re: Yay, Trump!, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 30 02:24:20 2015. By the way, a little thought about "left" and "right" ... has ANYONE noticed that all we're being presented with is one brick wall or the OTHER one?Whatever happened to the "ordinary guy or gal?" The vast "silent majority" of America wants no part of EITHER side, and yet we're being sold on some stupid concept of you need to kiss one mental patient or the other. As far as I'm concerned that nurse (could be male or female depending) standing in the middle of the hallway looks best to me. When the political parties decide that it's time for rehab, I'll be there. But for now, I'm like about 50% of America whose attitude towards it all is "fuck it." But being an "old man" as our thoughtbot R2D2 insists upon, I'll vote every time. But I'm not happy with ANY of the above. Anyone sane enough to actually do anything is also sane enough not to descend into this cesspool. I just wish Pat Paulsen would run again, you KNOW he wouldn't have put up with any of this shit. :) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 30 03:25:22 2015, in response to Re: Yay, Trump!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 03:02:13 2015. problem is he's not an elected official and never has been.So he can't be taken seriously. Most AMericans are tired of illegal immigration. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 03:32:51 2015, in response to Re: Yay, Trump!, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 30 03:25:22 2015. Watch him get elected if the GOP doesn't pull a Howard Beale on his ass. :)Voters are stupid. Subchat proves that every dingdong day. :( |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 30 03:33:19 2015, in response to Re: Yay, Trump!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 03:14:50 2015. this was once a great country.Women are going to ruin it. But there are some obstacles. Misogyny in minority communities is significant enough that it may hurt Hillary in FL, OH and VA!!! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 03:43:42 2015, in response to Re: Yay, Trump!, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 30 03:33:19 2015. Oh, I don't think the women are ruining it anywhere NEAR what the teabaggers and unsupervised corporate crooks are doing to it. Trust me. Citizens don't cost ANYTHING compared to the greedy and those they paid to own. :( |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 30 03:58:07 2015, in response to Re: Yay, Trump!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 03:43:42 2015. look at how women are reacting to Cecil the Lion.There is hope in AMerica. Sniper did big business and the Left has taken notice. Honestly, it's funny how AMericans like a movie about a war hero and Leftists like Trainwreck, about a cock carousel riding feminazi. This country is so divided and women do most of the damage. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jul 30 04:03:13 2015, in response to Re: Yay, Trump!, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 30 02:14:53 2015. You're a clown. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Jul 30 04:04:06 2015, in response to Re: Yay, Trump!, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 30 02:24:20 2015. You're an idiot. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jul 30 04:13:57 2015, in response to Re: Yay, Trump!, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 30 03:58:07 2015. People with nothing better to do and no ability to think on their own are going to go with whatever the nooze outrage of the day is. Two days later, herp-derp-wut? You get used to stupid as you get older and can enjoy it as the replacement it is for the old 3 Stooges. :)But hey ... if you want to listen to pissed off people gassing off and causing YOU to be pissed off too, that ain't helping anybody and it sure ain't fixing anything. Don't mind me, too well to play. |
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