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5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jul 6 21:53:47 2015 Read them here |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jul 6 22:00:09 2015, in response to 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jul 6 21:53:47 2015. sure |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 00:35:21 2015, in response to 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jul 6 21:53:47 2015. Very well written. And it explains without saying so why Catholics (with excarpions) have always tended to strongly oppose calling the country a Christian nation.And that's because they know that if there were a battle about what type of Christian nation it would be, they'd lose. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 01:31:21 2015, in response to 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jul 6 21:53:47 2015. LOL, Alternet?? You coming out as a radical Marxist now? |
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Posted by WillD on Tue Jul 7 01:39:42 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation? (Alternet??), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 01:31:21 2015. How about you play the ball rather than the man for once? There's only 5 points. If the site is so devoid of factual content as you claim then even you should have no problem supplying plenty of evidence to the contrary. You owe it to those here who have tolerated your presence with somewhat good grace, so lets see your point by point refutation of the site's claims.Hop to it boy. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 7 08:43:35 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation? (Alternet??), posted by WillD on Tue Jul 7 01:39:42 2015. 6. Some are looking for the U.S. to be a Caliphate and, by definition, a Caliphate can't be a Christian nation. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 7 08:45:10 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation? (Alternet??), posted by SLRT on Tue Jul 7 08:43:35 2015. 6a. Of course if the U.S. were a Caliphate, then it would no longer be ruled by ZOG, which also can't be Christian.Duh. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 09:22:15 2015, in response to 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jul 6 21:53:47 2015. Now I know you're an atheist. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jul 7 09:42:29 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 09:22:15 2015. It figures that you consider him an atheist because he does not believe in the divinity of Jesus.How many Hail Marys should he recite to make up for it? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 7 10:40:47 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 09:22:15 2015. How did you come to that ridiculously wrong conclusion? How many atheists study in yeshiva? How many atheists celebrate the anniversary or their bar mitzvah by reading their entire Torah portion? How many atheists lead (not just attend) High Holiday services? How many keep Shabbat? Need I go on? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 7 10:41:18 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation? (Alternet??), posted by WillD on Tue Jul 7 01:39:42 2015. IAWTP |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Jul 7 10:42:30 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 7 10:40:47 2015. PWN3D |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 10:50:20 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 7 10:40:47 2015. How come you don't respect Christians, and Christianity? |
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Posted by Allan on Tue Jul 7 11:06:52 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 00:35:21 2015. IAWTP |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 11:16:57 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 09:22:15 2015. No. Unlike you, he is actually Jewish and does not act like a fundamentalist Christian. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 11:18:52 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 10:50:20 2015. Most Christians also oppose America being considered a Christian nation because they would lose the argument about what kind of Christian nation it is. |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 7 11:20:13 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 10:50:20 2015. He does. Where do you get the idea he doesn't? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 11:26:47 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jul 7 09:42:29 2015. Is your name WMATAGMOAGH? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 11:27:06 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 11:16:57 2015. Is your name WMATAGMOAGH? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 11:27:38 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 11:18:52 2015. Is your name WMATAGMOAGH? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 11:27:54 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by Fred G on Tue Jul 7 11:20:13 2015. Is your name WMATAGMOAGH? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 11:28:25 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 11:27:06 2015. Yes. But you can call me Mat for short (the W is silent). |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 11:36:46 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 11:28:25 2015. Hi Mat. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 14:36:00 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 7 10:40:47 2015. Some do. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 14:36:50 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 10:50:20 2015. That makes him an atheist? That he’s not a Christian?You realize that the more religious a person is, the LESS likely they are to respect religions other than their own? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 7 15:14:42 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 00:35:21 2015. Very well writtenLOL! You're a funny guy AlM. I do hope to meet you one day. Your posts are funny as hell. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 7 15:21:04 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 14:36:00 2015. Right, but odds are a single person who does all those things regularly is not an atheist at this point in nis or her life. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 7 15:23:34 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 10:50:20 2015. How come you always "answer" questions with more questions? Don't you have any responses to the things you get asked?I don't respect people who consider it a part of their religion to change who I am, what I believe in, or think that I need to do certain things in order for their version of Messianic redemption to occur. I especially hate it when people engage in that behavior in such a way that people, such as yourself, are duped by it and think that the person doing those sorts of things actually has your best interest at heart, which is what Olog and many other right wing Christians do. You're being played for a fool, and people are trying to help you. I hope someday you realize it. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 16:08:56 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 7 15:23:34 2015. Gee thanks dad. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jul 7 16:32:10 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Jul 7 11:27:54 2015. Is your name ChicagoMotorman? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 16:34:20 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jul 7 16:32:10 2015. Is your name Salaam Allah? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 7 16:41:00 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 11:18:52 2015. Most Christians also oppose America being considered a Christian nation because they would lose the argument about what kind of Christian nation it is.where do you come up with this stuff AlM? Hasn't the United States always been a majority Christian nation? I am about to summon you to #kestepizzasummit |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 16:45:04 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 7 16:41:00 2015. Hasn't the United States always been a majority Christian nation?Yes, and if the US had had an established Church there would have been constant maneuvers to disadvantage Catholicism. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jul 7 16:46:07 2015, in response to 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Jul 6 21:53:47 2015. Those five reasons have completely undermined my reading of history, including culture, rules, laws, customs, court rulings, and documents in museums, which is very wide ranging.Especially the heading that says that they "would likely have" versus what they actually were. So well written. I am also no convinced that Columbus had arabic translators on board to speak to the Indians in their own native Arabic language too. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 7 16:48:17 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 16:45:04 2015. Yes, and if the US had had an established Church there would have been constant maneuvers to disadvantage Catholicism.Ok. But most people aren't into all that shit. We just think of the US as being mostly Christian as a percentage of the population. So when are we gonna #summit? |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 16:48:27 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 14:36:50 2015. You realize that the more religious a person is, the LESS likely they are to respect religions other than their own?Yes and no. It depends on the direction their stronger religiosity takes them. If by more religious, you mean more fundamentalist, I would agree. But not otherwise. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 16:50:14 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 7 16:48:17 2015. But most people aren't into all that shit.But they used to be. The draft riots would have been nothing compared to what would have happened if NY State had been able to make the Episcopal Church the offical church of NY State. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Jul 7 16:55:23 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 7 16:48:17 2015. How come you chose not to enter the Italian grandma thread? SMAZ is winning that thread going away and you are the only one on this site that has a puncher's chance against him in threads about those people. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 7 17:03:38 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Jul 7 16:55:23 2015. How come you chose not to enter the Italian grandma thread? SMAZ is winning that thread going away and you are the only one on this site that has a puncher's chance against him in threads about those people.SMAZZA rarely wins a thread. Guy is afraid to #summit. I guess it's a Cruel Summer for SMAZZA. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 7 17:09:33 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 16:50:14 2015. But they used to be. The draft riots would have been nothing compared to what would have happened if NY State had been able to make the Episcopal Church the offical church of NY State.So now you see why people think we're a Christian nation. At one point religion mattered a lot. Today it's dwindling away. So when are we going to #summit? I want to meet you. Your posts are fucking awesome, like cortelyounext'. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Jul 7 17:13:24 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 7 17:03:38 2015. Hey Luch, did you hear about the guy who got gunned down yesterday out in East Tampa or Brandon or Progress Village one of those war zones? He was ambushed in front of the Hookah Bar. I was seated next to Michael Cole on Saturday during a flight from Newark to Houston. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 7 17:28:53 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been151;A Christian Nation, posted by cortelyounext on Tue Jul 7 17:13:24 2015. well Cole lives in Texas.He makes a ton of money with WWE. and on my end I'm attacked constantly and avoided in all #summit invitations. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 18:18:35 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 7 16:48:17 2015. I'll summit with you in 2 years. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 7 18:29:36 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 7 15:21:04 2015. Yes. Those are good odds. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jul 7 19:10:26 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 7 15:23:34 2015. He also believes that people like Frazier Glenn Miller and Dylann Roof are looking out for his race. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 7 20:19:01 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 16:08:56 2015. If the US were to be a Christian nation as you seem to want it to be, how would that benefit you as a Jew? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 20:41:11 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 7 20:19:01 2015. Judeo Christian nation. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 7 20:57:49 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 20:41:11 2015. The question (and OP in this thread) discuss a Christian Nation, not a Judeo-Christian one. Why would you want a Judeo-Christian nation as opposed to an Abrahamic Religious Nation? Or why not just a Christian nation? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 7 21:06:15 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 7 16:45:04 2015. That's not the reason why there was no established church. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Jul 7 21:07:33 2015, in response to Re: 5 Reasons America Is Not—And Has Never Been—A Christian Nation, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jul 7 20:57:49 2015. Why do you dislike Christians and not muslims? |
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