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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 3 09:58:35 2015 There are some who claim that it’s barbarism to knock down monuments to the Confederacy and to Confederate “heroes.”So was it barbarism when the USSR and its satellites knocked down monuments to Vladimir Lenin and Karl Marx? Or earlier when Khrushchev knocked down the monuments to Stalin? Should they have kept them all as “history?” |
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Posted by DANd124 on Fri Jul 3 10:09:42 2015, in response to Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 3 09:58:35 2015. Russia raised a stink when Estonia relocated down a monument to the Red Army. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Jul 3 10:22:03 2015, in response to Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 3 09:58:35 2015. Thanks for comparing the U.S. to the U.S.S.R. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 3 10:32:27 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by Dave on Fri Jul 3 10:22:03 2015. ???He's comparing the Confederacy to the USSR? Is that unfair? An entire class of people targeted for oppression. Forced labor. Extensive deaths of oppressed minorities resulting from the forced labor system. Extremely strong penalties for questioning authority. The only difference is that Stalin engaged in the deliberate murder of large numbers of people. The South simply financed a slave trade that they knew would result in the deaths of large numbers of people. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Jul 3 11:27:42 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by Dave on Fri Jul 3 10:22:03 2015. Those aren't heroes of the United States.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Jul 3 11:38:26 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 3 10:32:27 2015. No, he's comparing people in the U.S. today with the USSR knocking down statues of Lenin and Marx. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 3 11:42:37 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by Dave on Fri Jul 3 11:38:26 2015. What is your point? Are you saying it was bad that, once more freedom was allowed in the USSR, people knocked down statues of Marx and Lenin?If you think it was good, then what is your complaint about his post? |
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Posted by Fwt9000 on Fri Jul 3 12:24:09 2015, in response to Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 3 09:58:35 2015. What makes a monument worthy of preservation? Age? Why not tear down the Roman Coliseum after all it is a symbol of oppression as well? |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 3 13:45:57 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by Fwt9000 on Fri Jul 3 12:24:09 2015. What's your point?All Spider-Pig said was that not all monuments are necessarily worthy of preservation. Do you disagree? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 3 13:53:09 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by Fwt9000 on Fri Jul 3 12:24:09 2015. Everyone is ISIS today. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Jul 3 14:00:23 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 3 13:45:57 2015. Al = translator in chief. |
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Posted by Fwt9000 on Fri Jul 3 14:12:34 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 3 13:45:57 2015. Who should make that decision and what are the criteria ? All opinions are welcome. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jul 3 14:19:07 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by Fwt9000 on Fri Jul 3 14:12:34 2015. If it's a government owned monument, the government should decide through a democratic process. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 3 16:33:06 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 3 10:32:27 2015. Thank you. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 3 16:35:07 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by Dave on Fri Jul 3 11:38:26 2015. The USSR didn't knock down those monuments. It was after the USSR fell and just before that while it was in its death throes.The CSA fell and yet they still built monuments to their “heroes” afterwards. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 3 16:40:16 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 3 13:45:57 2015. Stone Mountain is worthy of preservation, despite the circumstances of its construction being suspect. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 3 16:45:12 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 3 16:40:16 2015. Gee that is so nice of you. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 3 16:47:01 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by AlM on Fri Jul 3 14:19:07 2015. I don't necessarily agree. Angry mobs could destroy something that's artistically significant even if it's a monument to a Confederate monster. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 3 18:41:35 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 3 16:45:12 2015. A monument built on the blood of a dead Jew. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jul 3 18:52:48 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 3 18:41:35 2015. Interesting. I'll read it and get back. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 3 19:07:55 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 3 18:41:35 2015. Interesting read. Leo Frank was no angel. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 3 20:01:19 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri Jul 3 19:07:55 2015. Really? That's your response to that? Pathetic. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jul 3 20:30:21 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 3 20:01:19 2015. How else do you want me to respond? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jul 3 20:31:02 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 3 20:01:19 2015. How else do you want me to respond? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 3 20:31:48 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 3 20:01:19 2015. Leo Frank was an honorable man murdered by your beloved Southern “gentlemen.” |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Jul 3 20:34:27 2015, in response to Re: Monuments to the Confederacy, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 3 20:31:48 2015. I really don't know much about it. |
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