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anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 01:28:00 2006

battery powered open reel recorders !!

no camcorders no vhs units back then but reel to reel and

45 records 33/1/3 records most mono then stereo hi - fi era...

i know i am getting old when i remember seeing them being sold

the small portable hand held tiny reel to reel audio recorder !

dirt cheap ( this was before the compact analog audio cassette )

i remember seeing them sold in drug stores general markets

radio shack lafayette radio electronics olson electronics stores

they did not sound as good as the 7'' and 10'' 1/4 hi fi models

some of them were called ''sound cameras'' and you had to plug in

a moving coil MIC ( some of them had on off switches ) 3' 2' reels

usually powered by either aa c or d bateries music some recording

kinda sounded ok .....then in the 70s the audio cassette was

a much better improvement until the walkman came in .....

then yopu have a radio and an audio cassette but thats later

i strill remember seeing those small reels going round and round !!

maybe you had one of those small units way back in the 1960s eh ?

i target about 1965 when you could get one of these units !! peak

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 10 01:34:40 2006, in response to anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 01:28:00 2006.

Moo. :)


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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by New Brunswick Station on Sat Jun 10 01:36:33 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 10 01:34:40 2006.

reminds me of Watergate-related magazine covers

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 01:46:05 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 10 01:34:40 2006.

a beauty !!

you can still see them on MISSION IMPOSSIBLE # 1

the original !!

is that your reel to reel ??

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 01:52:02 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 10 01:34:40 2006.

this was my old flame !!
the ''concord sound camera''


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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 10 02:16:07 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by New Brunswick Station on Sat Jun 10 01:36:33 2006.

Pretty much the "technology" of the time. :)

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 10 02:19:40 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 01:52:02 2006.

Lot nicer than my no-name junker. Heh. But it was cool the way the motor flipped one way or the other and drove the rubber on the hubs there. And no, my junker died many many years ago. Motors never lasted on them and eventually, since there was a permanent magnet erase head and no "bias" the head would get magnetized and they'd just get more and more distorted with time. True garbage they was!

So no ... just a handy pic to show that I remember the junkers. Still have my SONY PRE-EIAJ open reel half inch video machine with SONY B&W camera though. (grin) Dates back to somewhere around 1973'ish ...

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 02:29:33 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 10 02:19:40 2006.

well i got an old sony tr67 still operational

1st 4 head 8mm camcorder can record in LP

woah !!



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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 10 03:06:17 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 02:29:33 2006.

Now you're out of the precambrian era and into the neomodern. :)

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 03:44:26 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 10 03:06:17 2006.

from 1959 analog 1960s .........

into the digital conversion age AAD

!!

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jun 10 07:54:44 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 01:46:05 2006.

Complete with the smoke and special effects as the tape "self destructs".

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Jun 10 11:42:35 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 10 02:16:07 2006.

And that was a long time ago.

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by Dan on Sat Jun 10 17:30:19 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Jun 10 11:42:35 2006.

I had a Craig reel-to-reel, possibly a Craig 212. It ran on batteries or a/c power. It had two recording speeds - 3.75 ips and either 7.5 ips or 1.875 ips, I forget which. I think you changed speeds by removing a sleeve thing on the capstan and then screwing it into a holder on the unit. If you lost the sleeve you had a one-speed recorder.

Does anyone make reel-to-reel today? As late as 1981 places like J&R sold Technics and Revox reel-to-reel recorders.

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 21:28:26 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by Dan on Sat Jun 10 17:30:19 2006.

craig also made tape decks for cars like muhtz 8 and 4 track

playback under the dash units

and they made open reel to reel audio and VIDEO recorders

http://www.oaktreeent.com/

amazing !! an AMREICAN MADE HOME VIDEO RECORDER !!!

this auction company in colorado has a lot of vintage audio

gear i havent seen in years !!

http://www.oaktreeent.com/



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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Jun 10 22:00:40 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by Dan on Sat Jun 10 17:30:19 2006.

" had a Craig reel-to-reel, possibly a Craig 212."

I remember the Craig 212. They were sold at Lafayette where I worked in the late 60's. 3" reels and a joystick style controller that worked the rewind, fast forward and play. The Lafayette RK-137 and RK-142 had the same style joystick.

If the 212 had two speeds, I doubt that 7 1/2 ips would be the second speed. That's too fast, tape would be used up too soon.

Bill "Newkirk"

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 22:30:45 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Jun 10 22:00:40 2006.

bill the speeds on the craig 212 tape recorder was

3 & 3/4 ips and the slow 1 & 7/8 ips ..capstan change

i still have a pair of lafayette criterion 8' hi fi loudspeakers

with new woffers in them and they still rock nice !!

and i own a lafayette stereo reciever wich still sends out signals

am and fm thru headphones and still works an ampex f44 fine line

tube powered reel to reel recorder and i own a sony tc350

reel to reel tape deck still in museum condition !!!

true !!

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by Dan on Sat Jun 10 22:33:10 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 22:30:45 2006.

I still have a pair of working Criterion 2X speakers. Lafayette stuff lasted forever.

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 22:46:15 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Jun 10 22:00:40 2006.

Craig Corporation.
Located in Los Angeles, California and originally founded in the 30's as Craig - Panorama by Robert Craig to distribute photographic products, in 1952 his son, the economist T. Robert Craig Jr., took over as chairman of the company and quickly transformed the business into an importer and distributor of Brown Goods, although in the late fifties and 60's the company did some of their own design, quality control and final assembly but this was mainly to get around the very stringent USA import tax regulations at the time and by 1972 the company had ceased all local assembly. In 1963 the company changed from a California registered company into the Delaware registered Craig Corp. Although the company traded in all kinds of CE products ranging from alarm clocks through calculators (very high tech at the time) the company's became best know in the 60's for their tape recorder products that they sourced from Sanyo, Pioneer and others, initially these were mostly Reel to Reel but the company expanded into the 8 Track Cartridge market in the latter half of the decade and met with spectacular success in the then emerging car audio market, the end result being that in last 2 decades of the company's life it was mostly known as a provider of car audio products and novelty high tech electronics. The company had for a time very close ties to Pioneer and when Pioneer USA was set up in 1972 a number of top Craig employees left to work for that company. The company's assets including the brandname were sold to Bercor in 1985 but the company itself existed for at least a few years more since it was in litigation with it USA tax authorities as late as 1987

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 22:53:04 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by Dan on Sat Jun 10 22:33:10 2006.

let me see muy pair are called criterion 100 A .........

my grandparents owned them when they lived on murray street

in flushing new york and they brought them here wnen they moved

Lafayette Radio and Electronics and Olson Electronics

the federated group Leos' Stereo and Cal Stereo are still

memories for turntables hi-fi speakers cassette tape decks

reel to reel tape decks ..........

back in the 1960s-70s !!!

well !! what do you know this was thier old address

Lafayette Radio
165-08 Liberty Ave.
Jamaica 33, New York

Lafayette Radio Electronics Corp
111 Jericho Turnpike
Syosset, L.I., New York


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Re: Craig Reel To Reel Tape Recorder Model 212

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 23:00:24 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Jun 10 22:00:40 2006.

here it is the CRAIG 212 tape recorder
Craig Reel To Reel Tape Recorder Model 212
Item: 500501
A Museum Craig Solid State Reel to Reel tape recorder. The model is 212. It can be operated off a 9vdc wall wart or 6 C size batteries. This recorder uses 3" reels.


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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by Karl B on Sat Jun 10 23:03:40 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Jun 10 22:00:40 2006.

I am sitting here looking at a Craig 2108, 7 transistor, 6 C size battery powered tape recorder.

On the front it is identified as a Super 212 with auto-level recording.

I haven't tried to use it in quite awhile so I don't know if it still works.

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by Dan on Sat Jun 10 23:04:23 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 22:46:15 2006.

I also had a Craig under-the-dash FM-stereo/Cassette player back in 1977. It had thumbwheel tuning. I hooked it up to two Jensen speakers in my 1969 Olds Cutlass-S. The unit was installed on this slider thing so I could remove it. In Brooklyn we didn't have a garage and thieves would steal a cheap stereo out of an old car back then.

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 23:07:25 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by Karl B on Sat Jun 10 23:03:40 2006.

could not find an image of the craig 2108 ..........but

i bet i have seen it !!



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Re: Craig Reel To Reel Tape Recorder Model 212

Posted by Dan on Sat Jun 10 23:09:30 2006, in response to Re: Craig Reel To Reel Tape Recorder Model 212, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 23:00:24 2006.

That's it!

More 'tech history' websites---

http://www.betainfoguide.com/
http://www.deadmedia.org/index.html
http://www.recording-history.org/index.htm
http://www.labguysworld.com/
http://www.privateline.com/history.html
http://www.cedmagic.com/history/
http://www.cedmagic.com/
http://www.tvhistory.tv/
http://www.earlytelevision.org/index.html


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Re: LINKS Craig Reel To Reel Tape Recorder Model 212

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 23:11:23 2006, in response to Re: Craig Reel To Reel Tape Recorder Model 212, posted by Dan on Sat Jun 10 23:09:30 2006.

go to this site
and see it !!
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http://www.electricgypsy.net/computers/index.php
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http://www.electricgypsy.net/computers/details.php?item=500501&category=radio&format=&page=1&anchor=1
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http://www.electricgypsy.net/computers/index.php?category=radio
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Re: LINKS Craig Reel To Reel Tape Recorder Model 212

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Jun 11 05:45:43 2006, in response to Re: LINKS Craig Reel To Reel Tape Recorder Model 212, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 23:11:23 2006.

I don't see any links.

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Re: LINKS Craig Reel To Reel Tape Recorder Model 212

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 11 07:24:16 2006, in response to Re: LINKS Craig Reel To Reel Tape Recorder Model 212, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 23:11:23 2006.

url ........then paste
......................................... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.............................
http://www.electricgypsy.net/computers/index.php
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http://www.electricgypsy.net/computers/details.php?item=500501&category=radio&format=&page=1&anchor=1
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http://www.electricgypsy.net/computers/index.php?category=radio
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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Jun 11 10:06:28 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 22:53:04 2006.

"well !! what do you know this was thier old address"

Lafayette Radio
165-08 Liberty Ave.
Jamaica 33, New York

Lafayette Radio Electronics Corp
111 Jericho Turnpike
Syosset, L.I., New York

The Jamaica address was there new main headquarters and mail order source after they expanded from ther 100 6th Ave (Manhattan) address. That was their first store.

When they expanded again, they opened their Syosset location as the main store and mail order source. In the late 60's they opened their Hauppauge warehouse (no store) which dealt with Lafayette private line products (audio, CB, etc).

Then sometime around 1977 they went belly up. For a short time the Lafayette brand name was carried by Circuit City, but that too died.

Bill "Newkirk"


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Re: Craig Reel To Reel Tape Recorder Model 212

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Jun 11 10:09:43 2006, in response to Re: Craig Reel To Reel Tape Recorder Model 212, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 23:00:24 2006.

Yep, that's the 212 I remember. Especially that unique cylindrical shape volume control.

Bill "Newkirk"

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Jun 11 10:15:07 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 22:53:04 2006.

"let me see muy pair are called criterion 100 A ........"

Are you sure the Criterion 100A's have 8" woofers ? I always knew them to have 10" woofers. The Criterion 25/25A and 50/50A have 8" woofers. The Criterion 25/25A's were cube shaped bookshelf speakers. And the Criterion 50/50A were rectangular shaped speakers. Now the Criterion 3X/3XA and 5X had 12" woofers.

Lemme see if my memory still works. The stock number of the Criterion 100 was 99-0148WX.

Bill "Newkirk"

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Jun 11 10:20:20 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 22:30:45 2006.

"and i own a Lafayette stereo receiver which still sends out signals

am and FM thru headphones......."

Did you know that the Lafayette audio amps and receivers were made by Kenwood for Lafayette ? I owned the Lafayette LR-1500T receiver (stock# 99-0190WX). Their most powerful receiver with "integrated circuits". For $19.95, I bought the walnut wood veneer case to replace the chintzy imitation wood grain metal cabinet.

Bill "Newkirk"

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by tracksionmotor on Sun Jun 11 16:59:40 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 21:28:26 2006.

One of the last 1/4 inch reel-to-reel offered by Lafayette Radio recorded B/W video got you about fifteen minutes but who had a need?
The first Sony BetaMax with an internal TV tuner changed everything.

www.earlytelevision.org/

Technicolor had this system we called the 'fishbowl'....motion picture film cassettes spot scanned into video. Then there was RCA 'Selectevision'....basically a 33rpm record with seven times the tracks...heavy skipper. NAB cassettes were pre-BetaMax but nobody was interested when you could get TV for free off-the-air.

Why would anyone want a XEROX machine when you had carbon paper?

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 11 17:28:05 2006, in response to anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jun 10 01:28:00 2006.

No I don't remember it and I feel young because I don't. Thanks for that.

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by tracksionmotor on Sun Jun 11 17:39:36 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Jun 11 10:06:28 2006.

You so olde. When Lafayette collapsed, I got 150 WDC per channel receiver, turntable, two Criterion 150As that 'Pink Floyd' ripped voice coils off cone, ten xtal scanners and four two meter 25 watt xtal FM transcievers. I still have one HA-146 left but quartz crystals are hard to by today and it lacks the tone encoder I need.

'Transistorized' equipment is easy to troubleshoot down to discreet components. I not only have a Atlas 215X fully operational HF, a circa-1974 Yaesu-Musen (put Hallicrafters out of business) FT101B transceiver with FL-2100B (nice kilowatt AM equivalent with Shure reluctance microphones) but TWO Zenith ALL-TRANSISTOR TRANS-OCEANIC ROYAL 1000Ds...'The Worlds Most Magnificent Radio.' Tube-free.

Do you rmember HAMMARLUND of Brooklyn?

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Jun 11 18:29:04 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by tracksionmotor on Sun Jun 11 17:39:36 2006.

"Do you rmember HAMMARLUND of Brooklyn?"

Nope.

Bill "Newkirk"


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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by BIE on Sun Jun 11 19:09:06 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Jun 11 18:29:04 2006.

DAMN GOOD RECEIVERS.

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 11 20:10:44 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by Dan on Sat Jun 10 23:04:23 2006.

1969 Olds Cutlass-S !!!

did you have the mighty 448 engine ??

wowweeeeeee !!

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 11 20:12:27 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Jun 11 10:15:07 2006.

i think it does have 10 inchers !!

the 100a model i still got the original label on the front

10

yep !!

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by tracksionmotor on Sun Jun 11 22:09:24 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by BIE on Sun Jun 11 19:09:06 2006.

SP-600?

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 11 22:14:57 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by tracksionmotor on Sun Jun 11 17:39:36 2006.

any Macintosh Audio Component Owners here ??

i got an old Marantz High powered reciever but i need a AM antenna

on it !!!

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by tracksionmotor on Tue Jun 13 00:44:30 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Jun 11 10:20:20 2006.

My LR-120DB receiver popped the Criterion 3000 'corona field heil air motion transformer' voice coils off the cone playing Pink Floyd 'Dark Side of the Moon' heartbeats.

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Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jun 13 14:50:19 2006, in response to Re: anyone remember the battery powered open reel recorder, posted by Karl B on Sat Jun 10 23:03:40 2006.

My uncle had a battery-powered Telefunken open reel mono tape recorder. It could accommodate 5" reels. The motor still works, but it longer records or plays back. The control buttons are marked in German and English.


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