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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:43:06 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 20:36:57 2015.

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IAWTP

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:43:27 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:37:49 2015.

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shut up davey from texassssss

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:43:43 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:37:03 2015.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:44:08 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Mar 24 20:27:51 2015.

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so what ?

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:45:00 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 20:12:36 2015.

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LOL
ROFL

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 20:47:47 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:37:49 2015.

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1. Zimmerman killed Martin.
2. Zimmerman is an asshole punk with a history of unprovoked violence.
3. Zimmerman claimed "self-defense," yet actively hunted Martin, who was trying to escape.

That would be a brief summary of the evidence in question. Do you have any evidence to the contrary, or should I mark this thread "Dave pwned yet again" and move on?

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:48:26 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 20:40:27 2015.

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Little things amuse little minds. That's why you found it funny.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:48:41 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 20:47:47 2015.

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IAWTP

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 20:48:49 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:45:00 2015.

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I just gave him another black eye in this thread. Maybe someday, he'll learn to respect his betters.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:48:53 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:48:26 2015.

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zzzzzzzzz

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:49:43 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:42:05 2015.

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There you go expressing sexual feelings for men again. Like I posted earlier, I'm sure you can find a lover in LA. And not that there's anything wrong with that.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:50:15 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:42:41 2015.

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Why?

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:51:10 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:49:43 2015.

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shut up davey from texasss
there you go again spewing your vomit

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:51:29 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:50:15 2015.

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why not

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:51:57 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 20:47:47 2015.

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And yet he was found not guilty by a jury. Imagine that!

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONGc

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Mar 24 20:52:09 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 20:47:47 2015.

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1. Legally that is not necessarily Murder based on how the statute is written
2. Yes, but that is irrelevant to the question of whether he did or did not commit the crime charged
3. First part I agree with, but there was reasonable doubt on the second two clauses

Personally I think they would have stood a better chance charging Aggravated Battery which is the same level of felony as what was charged but fit the facts better

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:52:39 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:51:10 2015.

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Me? You're the one who posted that I should SYBBD. How am I spewing vomit?

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:52:42 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:51:57 2015.

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imagine he got away with MURDER

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 20:53:07 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:48:41 2015.

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The problem is that punching Dave is like punching bread dough— he goes down instantly with no resistance, which is fun the first time but the complete lack of a challenge makes it get boring fast.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:53:15 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:52:39 2015.

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first you SMBBD
ladies first

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:53:40 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:52:42 2015.

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Explain why the jury found him not guilty if he committed murder?

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:53:42 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 20:53:07 2015.

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LOL
ROFL
IAWTP

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Mar 24 20:54:48 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:53:40 2015.

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Because it is part of AmeriKKKa don't you know Davey from Texassss :)

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 24 20:54:49 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:51:57 2015.

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So you believe that Juries are infallible and have never made a mistake?

Or (as is more appropriate in this case), prosecutors have sufficient evidence for every crime committed that would allow the perpetrator to be duly convicted?

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:54:59 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:53:40 2015.

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there is no justice in white ameriKKKa for black american

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:56:24 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:53:15 2015.

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There you go, spewing vomit again. First you express sexual feelings for men, then you express feelings about emetophelia. The first I can understand but the second? Damn, what's wrong with you?

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Mar 24 20:56:48 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 24 20:54:49 2015.

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Personally I believe the Prosecutor purposely went with the charge with the harder proof rather than the easier one that carried the same penalty to make sure jury didn't convict

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 20:57:32 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:48:26 2015.

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Come on, seriously? You have two lines— spewing a childish insult at someone better than you, and making a flagrantly racist statement.

You seriously need some new material.

From now on, I'm going to number those lines "1" and "2" respectively.

I will define "A" as meaning the statement: "That is a childish insult devoid of any meaningful point or argument, and reflective of your complete moral and/or intellectual bankruptcy."

I will define "B" as meaning the statement: "That proves you are a giant racist and need to die in a fire."

That should make dealing with your posts much more convenient. You may want to bookmark this post— your simple mind is easily confused.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:57:39 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:56:24 2015.

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There you go, spewing vomit again
the only sexual feelings came from you with your sick ass

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:58:06 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:54:59 2015.

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Even though we have a black American president and a black American Attorney General.

LOL! Damn, you are thick.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:58:21 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 20:57:32 2015.

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IAWTP

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:58:51 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:58:06 2015.

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does not mean justice was done here

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 20:59:14 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:58:06 2015.

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1


B, A

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:59:26 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 20:59:14 2015.

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lol

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:59:41 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:57:39 2015.

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Now your asking about my ass? Does your wife know about this?

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 21:00:01 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:51:57 2015.

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Link

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 21:00:22 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 20:57:32 2015.

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Aww, poor Nilet had his feelings hurt.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 21:00:39 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:53:40 2015.

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Link

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 21:01:06 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 21:00:22 2015.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 21:01:27 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 24 20:54:49 2015.

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Sure they make mistakes. But regardless, Zimmerman was found not guilty.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 21:01:35 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:59:26 2015.

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It really is more convenient! :D

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 21:03:03 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:44:08 2015.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 21:03:41 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 20:59:41 2015.

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who said that you prevert ?
lol

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 21:04:34 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 21:01:27 2015.

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he got away with MURDER scott free

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 21:05:00 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 21:01:35 2015.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 21:06:04 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Tue Mar 24 21:03:03 2015.

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George Zimmerman's Anne Frank comparison spurs disgust

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 20:52:11 2015
George Zimmerman's reference to Anne Frank while discussing his life after his acquittal in the killing of Trayvon Martin showed his ignorance of the girl whose diary detailing her life under Nazi rule has inspired millions of people, the executive director of the Anne Frank Center in New York said Tuesday. Quoting Frank, Zimmerman said he also believes “that people are truly good at heart,” in an interview published Monday by the Orlando Sentinel.

Zimmerman was asked whether he is the same person now that he was five years ago before Martin's death. "Absolutely not," he said. "I have to have my guard up. … I still believe that people are truly good at heart, as Anne Frank has said, and I will put myself in any position to help another human in any way I can."

Zimmerman shouldn’t have made that comparison, according to Yvonne Simons, executive director of the Anne Frank Center, a gallery that contains reproductions of Frank’s famous diary, family photos and other artifacts from the Holocaust.

“They have very different histories, let me put it like that. She lived her life with very high hopes and very high ideals and believing in humanity in a way that I wouldn’t compare to George Zimmerman,” Simons said. “It’s just unfortunate that he puts out a statement like that. Anne Frank was a Holocaust victim and I think people have to be a little bit more careful when they compare their own situations, particularly when they have the kind of history that George Zimmerman has.”

Zimmerman was acquitted in 2013 of manslaughter in the 2012 death of Trayvon, an unarmed black teenager, following a scuffle in Sanford, Florida. Zimmerman argued that he acted in self-defense when he shot and killed Trayvon. The teen’s supporters argued that Zimmerman’s actions amounted to murder and that he was not justified in killing the 17 year old. The case spurred nationwide debate on racial profiling and excessive force. Zimmerman is half Hispanic and half white.

The Justice Department declined to charge Zimmerman with civil rights offenses in February after they reviewed the case. Zimmerman said President Barack Obama should have never ordered the probe, and accused the president of stoking racial tensions when he said, “If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon.”

Zimmerman isn’t the only public figure to stir controversy over Frank in recent years. Justin Bieber wrote, “hopefully she would have been a belieber,” in the guest book at the Anne Frank House in the Netherlands during a 2013 visit, referring to the name Bieber fanatics call themselves.

People like Zimmerman and Bieber would benefit from learning more about Frank, who died in a Nazi concentration camp when she was 15 years old after evading the Germans for two years in the attic of a house in Amsterdam, Simons said.

“What they should do is go and read her diary and familiarize themselves with Anne’s writing and her persona and certainly her legacy she has left. Her books have been translated in over 75 languages and there’ s a real message of hope and tolerance and humanity in her books.”

More than 30 million copies of Frank’s diary have been sold since it was published in 1947, according to the center.



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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONGc

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 21:08:01 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONGc, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Mar 24 20:52:09 2015.

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1. Legally that is not necessarily Murder based on how the statute is written

Multiple pieces of evidence combine to prove something no one piece of evidence does on its own.

That one person killed another is essential for a murder charge; it's the first piece of evidence a prosecutor has to introduce.

2. Yes, but that is irrelevant to the question of whether he did or did not commit the crime charged

It's not admissible in court, but if someone has a long and varied history of committing violent acts without justification, it stands to reason that a violent act they confessed to committing has no justification without evidence to prove it does.

3. First part I agree with, but there was reasonable doubt on the second two clauses

Self-defense is an affirmative defense; it has to be proven. That Zimmerman intentionally hunted down Martin while Martin attempted to escape proves that Zimmerman did not kill him in self-defense. Because Zimmerman confessed to the killing and did not offer any justification, he is guilty of murder.

Personally I think they would have stood a better chance charging Aggravated Battery which is the same level of felony as what was charged but fit the facts better

And, of course, since Martin died as a result then Zimmerman would be guilty of felony murder. So you're basically just arguing the prosecutor should have used a different strategy to pursue a murder charge against Zimmerman. That is something I can agree with.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 21:10:11 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 21:03:41 2015.

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He did.

Think about that for a moment.

I wonder if Dave would like to explain why he interprets everything you say as some sort of sexual advance. Perhaps he's desperately hoping you may actually make one?

Plenty of OTChatters have posted rather detailed fantasies wishing they could have sex with me.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 21:13:18 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Tue Mar 24 21:10:11 2015.

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not interested in that prevert and idiot
i am happy with my wife
damnn we have somne sickos here



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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 24 21:13:44 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 24 19:55:55 2015.

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Your wittle buddy.

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