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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 10:00:16 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 09:52:17 2015.

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That is or was Salaam's email address. That's why I said "you mean" in response to your mentioning Salaam. That's what "you mean" followed by some sort of moniker tends to mean.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 10:01:10 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 09:53:26 2015.

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That Chris is a racist and that Dave is a liar. Jeez, do you have memory problems?

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 30 10:02:39 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 09:48:10 2015.

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What is unclear about the language "freedom FROM religion is just as much a part of the 1st Amendment as freedom of religion"? Freedom FROM religion is mentioned nowhere in the 1st Amendment or the Constitution as a whole.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:10:44 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 10:00:16 2015.

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It's not his email address now.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 10:10:59 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 09:51:28 2015.

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Take no one's word, your poor actions here work better than anything anyone could ever say about you.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 10:12:25 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 10:01:10 2015.

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He only remembers what is convenient to him or his "game" here.
Those that don't want to play is ridiculous "game" then get called racists, liars, bigots, morons, or whatever he chooses at the time to talk around debate.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 10:14:23 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:10:44 2015.

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???? People can't have numerous emails?

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:16:21 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 10:01:10 2015.

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That Chris is a racist and that Dave is a liar.

Chris explicitly stated that he thinks racial equality is "nonsense and propaganda." He threw a fit in response to a cartoon which advocated same, and the tantrum he's been throwing for the last year began in a thread where he was trying to defend the idea that America should close its borders against foreigners. What do you call that?

Dave is a confirmed liar as I have already demonstrated.

As such, those conclusions are justified by the available evidence. Moreover, while I already have ample evidence to justify those conclusions, the fact that Chris and Dave are unable or unwilling to act like adults means I'm disinclined to go above and beyond in assuming they must mean well.

We've already been through this.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 30 10:16:24 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 30 10:02:39 2015.

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You mean I can't call the cops when the Jehovah's witnesses ring my bell? :)



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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:20:15 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 30 10:02:39 2015.

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"Freedom from religion" is just a different way of saying "freedom of religion" which removes a semantic ambiguity that religious nuts like to cling to.

"Freedom of religion" means the freedom to choose your own belief.

"Freedom from religion" means the freedom to not be told what to believe.

They're fundamentally the same thing.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Mar 30 10:20:51 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 07:40:01 2015.

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You know how.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:23:12 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 10:14:23 2015.

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So your email is whinylittlebaby@peartreenyc.com then?

Translation for the literal-minded thickies:

The fact that a person can have multiple email addresses does not imply that a specific email address belongs to them. I have yet to see any evidence that Salaam uses that email address at all, let alone evidence that he has used that email address recently.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 10:23:56 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:16:21 2015.

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Chris explicitly stated that he thinks racial equality is "nonsense and propaganda."

No, and for the 100th time, I said your POST AND CARTOON were "nonsense and propaganda", which I had no interest in reading. No matter how many times you attempt to transfer that statement into whatever projection your sick mind wants to transfer to or infer from someone, is YOUR problem, not mine. And no matter how many times you attempt to repeat it, doesn't make it any more true.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 10:25:23 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 30 10:16:24 2015.

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It would probably be a bit extreme to call the cops for someone who rings your door bell, but you can tell them to get the FUCK OFF YOUR DOORSTEP....
:)

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:25:52 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 10:10:59 2015.

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... your poor actions...

Such as...?

Oh right, you can't even name one.

Allow me to fix that statement for you:

Take no one's word, your poor actions here are fictitious; although I like to make vague references to misdeeds on your part, I know for a fact that your behaviour has been exemplary.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:27:33 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 10:12:25 2015.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 10:27:58 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:25:52 2015.

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Your poor actions are shown here everytime you post more than a random post, so it's like hanging laundry on the front lawn. Everyone can see it for themselves.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 10:28:22 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:27:33 2015.

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LOL, yup exactly.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:29:29 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 10:23:56 2015.

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No, and for the 100th time, I said your POST AND CARTOON were "nonsense and propaganda", which I had no interest in reading.

Exactly.

The POST AND CARTOON said racial equality is a good thing.

You said that this was "nonsense and propaganda" which you had no interest in reading.

Therefore you are a racist.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:29:44 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by TerrApin Station on Mon Mar 30 10:20:51 2015.

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How?

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:30:20 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 30 10:16:24 2015.

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If you tell them to get off your property and they don't, then yes. You can call the cops and have them arrested for trespassing.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:31:46 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 10:27:58 2015.

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Allow me to fix that for you:

Your poor actions are fictitious. Since they do not exist, I am desperately hoping that making more vague references will substitute for my complete lack of evidence.

Post a link or shut up. And do be prepared to defend the link when you post it.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:32:42 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 10:28:22 2015.

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I'm glad you are starting to recognise your own failings. With luck, you'll mature and be able to act civil even when people don't agree with everything you say.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 10:39:47 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:23:12 2015.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 10:39:53 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:23:12 2015.

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https://web.archive.org/web/20150327145746/http://www.amazon.ca/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A1ZAZUNG10HJAS

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 10:42:45 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:16:21 2015.

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And as I pointed out before, none of those things are lies. Chris has already explained that he did not read your cartoons and thus made no substantive claim about them.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:47:39 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 10:39:53 2015.

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Very well, so he used that email address (in a Canadian Amazon review at any rate) in 2004.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:52:59 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 10:42:45 2015.

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And as I pointed out before, none of those things are lies.

So you believe that fighting in Vietnam did not pose a significant risk of death?

That Dick Cheney fought in Vietnam?

That Egypt is blockading Gaza?

That Salaam cannot understand multisyllabic words?

Chris has already explained that he did not read your cartoons and thus made no substantive claim about them.

Chris reiterated his claim in this very thread.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 11:07:02 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:47:39 2015.

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I never claimed to be certain that he still used it.

It should be noted that it remains a valid e-mail address, and he has logged in to its associated Yahoo account in the last 12 months.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 11:09:00 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:32:42 2015.

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Keep trying, I know you need the last word, it gives you comfort and makes you feel like you "won" whatever fetish you have going on.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 11:09:58 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:29:29 2015.

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LOL!! Yup, in your sick mind of course, so it must be true.
Your posts are a joke now, and they were then also. And yes, your crap is "nonsense and propaganda". You can twist that any way you want with your sick fetishes.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 11:11:06 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:31:46 2015.

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Your actions over the last two days are perfect example. Everyone knows it.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 11:12:13 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:52:59 2015.

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1. His only claim was that it did not pose a certain risk of death. That is true.

2. He was only disagreeing with the claim that Dick Cheney was a draft dodger. If you do not believe that using legal means to evade the draft is considered "draft dodging," a colloquial term, then it is correct. I personally disagree and consider Cheney to be a draft dodger.

3. Difference in opinion regarding the meaning of the term "blockade."

4. An ad hominem insult. Is a person lying when he calls someone a "shithead" even though that person does not have a head containing feces?

5. And he again reïterated that he didn't even read it.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 11:12:22 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 10:42:45 2015.

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But since I called his posts "nonsense", I am a "racist".
LOL.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 11:14:23 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 11:12:13 2015.

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I didn't read it, and don't plan to read it, and I have no interest in reading anything he posts that takes more than 5-10 seconds.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 30 11:45:46 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:52:59 2015.

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Dave never said that Dick Cheney fought in Vietnam. He just said that he is not a "draft dodger" because he registered but took advantage of legal deferments. As Stephen Bauman posted, there were some questions about how he was classified that may indicate that there were things going on behind the scenes, but you are misstating what Dave said. Also, Egypt is blockading Gaza by preventing items from being transported through Gaza's border with Egypt

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 30 11:56:38 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 11:12:13 2015.

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Nilet is worse than Olog when it comes to perverting logic.

Nilet says that Salaam is alive because he avoided the draft. Later he says no one should have taken that literally. Presumably his metaphorical meaning was that Salaam's dodging the draft increased his chances of being alive today.

But Dave does take Nilet literally, and now Nilet interprets Dave's rebuttal as being to the metaphorical thing Nilet said, not to the literal thing.

It's hopeless. He reserves the right to reinterpretation of his statements after the fact, without accepting that others might have taken them at face value to begin with. It's not possible to have a discussion with someone like that.




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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Dave on Mon Mar 30 12:04:12 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 11:14:23 2015.

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That's 5-10 seconds too long, Chris.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 12:05:11 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Mon Mar 30 10:47:39 2015.

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Are you now going to admit now that Salaam Allah is a racist?

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Dave on Mon Mar 30 12:09:10 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 30 11:45:46 2015.

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And Reuter's uses the term blockade when it comes to Egypt's actions against Hamas. So does the BBC, Washington Post, and the Christian Science Monitor. But of course, our resident Troll knows better than these sources.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 12:09:40 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 30 11:56:38 2015.

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It's not possible to have a discussion with someone like that.

Excellent post and spot on. I learned within a day of engaging him, that he is not worth having any sort of valid debate with, so I treat him with the respect he deserves, which is very little.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 12:10:29 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Mon Mar 30 12:04:12 2015.

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Yes. You are correct.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 12:10:52 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 12:05:11 2015.

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No because he's not white.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Dave on Mon Mar 30 12:11:55 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 10:39:53 2015.

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GREAT find, Spider-Pig!

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 30 12:21:32 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 10:39:53 2015.

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But that's not the email address you previously cited as belonging to salaam.



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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 12:24:53 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Dave on Mon Mar 30 12:11:55 2015.

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I submitted it to archive.org before he gets a chance to delete it. Here's how:

https://archive.org/web/ There's a submit form on there.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 12:25:41 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by AlM on Mon Mar 30 12:21:32 2015.

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There's more than one e-mail address there.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 12:49:08 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 30 12:10:52 2015.

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Who's not white?

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by AlM on Mon Mar 30 12:49:29 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 12:25:41 2015.

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I see. I hadn't noticed that he had submitted both reviews.



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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Mar 30 12:54:35 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Mar 30 12:49:08 2015.

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Salaam.

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