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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 27 16:20:05 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 16:13:29 2015.

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there is no dysfunction within Christianity. Problems are isolated incidents.

I agree as long as you restrict your comments to the United States.



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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 16:22:22 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 27 16:20:05 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
?

Worldwide, where is there a serious daily threat of serious injury or death around abortion clinics?

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 16:24:59 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by AlM on Tue Jan 27 14:50:41 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
lack of clean water leads to obesity.

Mexico is a good example. People don't like the local water. But soda is cheap and people are consuming it in large quantities instead of water.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World?

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 16:28:59 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 27 15:06:51 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yeah, it's hate speak except for Christians. Amazing how he,d defend Islam, yet even moderate Islam hates gays even more than radical Christians, forget about fundamentalist Islamists.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 16:29:56 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 27 15:29:38 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That's fine, but Islamists don't wait for the building to be empty.....the more in it the better to them.....

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 16:34:07 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 16:29:56 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
that's a strong post.

a total w1n/



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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 16:40:37 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 16:29:56 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
There is no....'but'. Both are evil acts and should be considered wrong.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 16:55:03 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 16:40:37 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes.....blowing up a vacant building is the same as bombing a building with thousands in it.....

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jan 27 16:57:07 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 16:04:12 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
though I admit I didn't read the original post, simply because bait like that doesn't interest me, right or wrong.

What bait?

It's an interesting article.

Do you prefer threads where half the posts start and end with stuff like "Jorge Mario Bergoglio" or "dave from texasssss"?

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 16:58:50 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 16:55:03 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
yeah like your post really answers mine.

I said they're both considered wrong. Is that incorrect?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:05:30 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 16:22:22 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
+100

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 27 17:08:43 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 15:07:01 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Do you really comprehend how savage and barbaric the act of stoning a human being to death really is?

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:10:03 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 16:24:59 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And Mexico doesn't Non-religiously routinely cut the genitals of newborn males, bad water or not.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:15:48 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 16:58:50 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That's not incorrect. But that's not the point I made. Islamics don't wait for the building to be vacant.....the more in it the better. Not to mention......since when does an abortion clinic have 10,000 plus people in it when they fly
Y a plane with 250 people into it?

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:18:01 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jan 27 16:57:07 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Did I complain about the thread? It's been quite interesting actually. I just didn't read the original post because I am not all that defensive of religion to begin with.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 17:20:16 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:05:30 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
AlM goes to Church. I don't know how often. Possibly weekly.

Like you he got married in a church meaning his marriage is legit.

I just want to ask him if at any moment he feels that someone in his church could blow something up?



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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 17:23:46 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 16:58:50 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Bombing an empty abortion clinic is the moral equivalent of WTC93', 9/11, Paris, London, etc..............

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:24:49 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 27 17:08:43 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes, and Muslims do it all the time to gays. Disgusting.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 17:26:05 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 17:23:46 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Which were still acts of terror. That's the point, not number of people killed.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:46:19 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 17:26:05 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The point is intent to kill as many people as possible.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:47:56 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 17:20:16 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I have a little GP38 on the way now.... Although I don't know if it's a GP38ette or a GP38 yet.....

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 17:50:23 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:46:19 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Well that's warfare, yes.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:52:55 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 17:50:23 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Lol.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 17:54:53 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:52:55 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Cool I win.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 27 18:07:34 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:47:56 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
THAT IS AWESOME! CONGRATULATIONS!

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 18:08:27 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:47:56 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Oh man, congrats!! CONGRATS!!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 18:10:42 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:47:56 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
please be careful what you post on the internet.



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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 27 18:15:15 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:24:49 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes, they do. My point is, any religion which condones, much less practices or actively encourages horrors like stoning in today's world, need to seriously reexamine their canons of ethics and belief systems.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 18:19:23 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 27 18:15:15 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Funny how your #element is all worked up about the occasional high-profile stoning of homosexuals, but when the target is society has a whole, you're right there to play the abortion clinic card.

#theelement

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 27 18:31:06 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 18:19:23 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Do you really believe that those who blow up abortion clinics care anything more about the people they injure or kill, than any other religious terrorist?



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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 18:33:30 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 27 18:31:06 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I don't know how we got the idea that anti-abortion terrorists just blow up buildings.

There have been many violent acts, and people killed

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 18:35:19 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 27 18:07:34 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Thank you!!!

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 18:35:39 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 18:08:27 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Thank you!!!

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 18:40:43 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 27 18:31:06 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Lol....again.....when they blow up the building when there's 1000's of people in it is the same when its vacant?

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 18:41:27 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 27 15:29:38 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
But it would hardly be terrorism if they came over and got everyone out of the building and then blew it up. It'd be bad, but it wouldn't be terrorism.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 18:43:12 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 17:26:05 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I don't think bombing an obviously empty abortion clinic is terrorism.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 18:48:00 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 18:43:12 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Do you mean unused like an empty warehouse? Or do you mean bombing a clinic after hours? The latter is indeed terrorism.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 18:55:59 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 27 18:31:06 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes. They do care. That's why in several cases they plotted to bomb when they're empty.

It's terrorism. And it's not epidemic in Christianity. In Islam, they clearly have issues right now.

Like I said, you care when they stone a but when they commit mass murder you are right there to remind us about something else, to even the score in your mind.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 19:00:15 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 18:48:00 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
How many people did they intend to kill.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by AlM on Tue Jan 27 19:04:36 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 18:43:12 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So you don't think Bill Ayers should be described as a former terrorist? he bombed a building he thought was empty.


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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 19:05:04 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 18:33:30 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL "many".

That's what is awesome about your #element. You know how to overstate the argument.

8 people in since 1973!!!!! Can count them on two hands. It only gives me the w1n/

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 19:07:52 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 17:47:56 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Wouldn't that be a GP9 or GP18?

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 19:09:34 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 19:00:15 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The U.S. Code of Federal Regulations defines terrorism as "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives" (28 C.F.R.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 19:12:11 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 18:33:30 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That was my fault. I was speaking hypothetically.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 19:14:29 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 27 18:15:15 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Huh? Why would G-d prescribe something 3000 (I'm making this number up) years ago only for it to become barbaric 3000 years later? I mean WTF? Anything G-d said back then is still good now. It doesn't get stale or go out of style, LOL!

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 19:15:17 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 19:05:04 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
"only" 4 died at Benghazi and you acted like it was fuckin Pearl Harbor.



your pal,
Fred

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 19:18:35 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jan 27 17:08:43 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Apparently not. G-d said this is one of the ways certain people should be killed for committing certain sins after being found guilty as part of a rigorous process in a holy court of Jewish law. Who are you to say that there's something wrong with that??? You're just a man and G-d is G-d. So....?

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 27 19:19:30 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 19:15:17 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
How is an attack on an embassy comparable to attacks on abortion clinics in the US.

The fact that 8 deaths are recorded in 1973 Roe V Wade shows just how small the threat really is.

If it was 8 a year, maybe we can discuss this.

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Tue Jan 27 19:19:45 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 19:07:52 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Maybe GP40?

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Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World

Posted by TerrapiN StatioN on Tue Jan 27 19:20:30 2015, in response to Re: 12 Worst Ideas that Religion Has Unleashed on the World, posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 27 18:48:00 2015.

fiogf49gjkf0d
After-hours, or during business hours but after making sure they kicked everyone out of the building first.

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