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Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 27 16:49:54 2014

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Says that the dimocrats should have passed bills that would help the middle class

Link to daily News

Link to ABC, CBS and NBC to follow (if they ever cover the story)





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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Nov 27 16:58:26 2014, in response to Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 27 16:49:54 2014.

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Not the first time he was wrong.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 27 17:05:38 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by 3-9 on Thu Nov 27 16:58:26 2014.

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Yes, Obama has been wrong many times - in fact he's rarely right.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 27 17:15:34 2014, in response to Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 27 16:49:54 2014.

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Aw, after voting for it and all too.

Never mind Obama; does Schumer ever do the right thing?

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Nov 27 18:59:04 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 27 17:05:38 2014.

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I was referring to Chuck Schumer, not Obama. In Obama's and the Democrats who passed it, they got it at least partially right.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by train dude on Thu Nov 27 19:28:40 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by 3-9 on Thu Nov 27 18:59:04 2014.

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Not as far as the middle class is concerned. Lucky you. Over the next 3+ years, as the rest of obamacare is phased in, unless the Republicans can reverse it, you'll see how fucked you really are by this law.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Nov 27 20:15:15 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by train dude on Thu Nov 27 19:28:40 2014.

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As somebody who considers himself middle class, I've seen a net benefit from this law. Since you've been dooming and glooming for 4 years now, I think you'll understand why I don't hold your predictions in high regard.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by train dude on Thu Nov 27 20:23:11 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by 3-9 on Thu Nov 27 20:15:15 2014.

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I really don't care whether you do or don't like my opinion. The FACTS are that the most anti middle-class provisions of zerobama care are about to be phased in. If you are okay with it then I'm happy for you.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by 3-9 on Thu Nov 27 20:35:43 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by train dude on Thu Nov 27 20:23:11 2014.

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Thanks, the chances are very good I'll be happier over the alternative.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by train dude on Thu Nov 27 20:37:52 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by 3-9 on Thu Nov 27 20:15:15 2014.

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I really don't care whether you do or don't like my opinion. The FACTS are that the most anti middle-class provisions of zerobama care are about to be phased in. If you are okay with it then I'm happy for you.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Nov 27 20:47:42 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by train dude on Thu Nov 27 20:37:52 2014.

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i am ok with obama care in california
lol!!

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by train dude on Thu Nov 27 21:38:45 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by 3-9 on Thu Nov 27 20:35:43 2014.

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I'm not surprised. Jonathan Gruber said that they counted on the stupidity of liberals to suppoft obamacare. You certainly wouldn't disappoint him.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 27 22:30:13 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by train dude on Thu Nov 27 21:38:45 2014.

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Funny how with Medicare, all the stories about old people losing their homes due to medical expenses really started.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 28 01:16:45 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by train dude on Thu Nov 27 21:38:45 2014.

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For someone who's been under government and/or union health insurance for just about their entire career and after, it's no wonder you have to rely on a pundit to tell you what's bad and good about it, seeing that you're still being shielded by one of those liberal aspects of govt.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 28 02:48:17 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 28 01:16:45 2014.

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Excellent post.

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 28 02:53:28 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 27 22:30:13 2014.

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People have lost their homes to medical costs since the earth cooled.

Ology.

Your pal,
Fred


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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 08:43:20 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 28 01:16:45 2014.

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And exactly how does that relate to what Jonathan Gruber said about the stupid voters who support the affordable care act? I guess you are living proof that ignorance can be corrected but stupid is forever.

BTW: Did you ever get your transit job?

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 08:52:01 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 28 02:53:28 2014.

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Well there you go. Its okay for zerobama care. We won't go broke because those very costly treatments are not available for the middle class

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 09:07:26 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 28 02:48:17 2014.

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Really, Fred? The topic was Chuck Schumer's defection from the ranks of the zerobama care supporters. How does sour grapes over one person's contractual medical benefits qualify as responsive to that issue.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 28 09:11:00 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 08:52:01 2014.

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Exactly what treatments are not available to the middle class?

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by fset on Fri Nov 28 10:07:33 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 28 09:11:00 2014.

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The articles show that Chuck was saying that the *timing* of ACA was a mistake, that there were other concerns which could have been addressed first.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by WillD on Fri Nov 28 11:11:15 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by train dude on Thu Nov 27 20:23:11 2014.

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What are these provisions, specifically? What is the exact working and where can thy be found in the law?

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 28 11:12:31 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 09:07:26 2014.

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His post is appropriate for every time we discuss healthcare here.

Your pal,
Fred




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Re: Chuck Schemer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 28 12:16:46 2014, in response to Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 27 16:49:54 2014.

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Corrected title.

He is wrong, anyway. The stimulus had just been passed, with attendant GOP screaming. No way the Dems could have passed any more jobs bills. Obamacare was a central campaign promise of Obama, why not pass it? And Obamacare improved the economy.

Senator Schemer is just trying to carve out a position for Hillary to use in 2016.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 28 12:17:51 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by train dude on Thu Nov 27 20:23:11 2014.

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All of Obamacare is phased in now.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 28 12:18:34 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by fset on Fri Nov 28 10:07:33 2014.

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Exactly. Train Dude fails again.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 28 12:19:06 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 08:43:20 2014.

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Americans are stupid now?

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 28 12:23:38 2014, in response to Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by Train Dude on Thu Nov 27 16:49:54 2014.

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"Link to ABC, CBS and NBC to follow (if they ever cover the story)"

LOL. The mainstream media covered the story with gusto.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 12:38:43 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 28 12:18:34 2014.

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No, numb. Go back and look at my original posting in this thread. 2 points and both on target. Liberal fail once again.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 12:39:54 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 28 12:17:51 2014.

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Wrong as usual.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 12:41:23 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 28 12:19:06 2014.

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Those are Liberal obama advisor, Jonathan Gruber's words. Not mine.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 28 12:47:53 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 12:38:43 2014.

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If you say so, LOL.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 28 12:48:43 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 12:39:54 2014.

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I know more about Obamacare than you'll ever learn.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 13:01:03 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 28 12:48:43 2014.

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Hahaha. Then why are you so wrong.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 13:02:02 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 28 12:47:53 2014.

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Thank you for the white flag

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 28 13:02:33 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 08:43:20 2014.

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It relates to how you depend on a pundit (who's probably paid enough to not have to worry about his health insurance either) to tell you about the health insurance market, because the "liberals" made sure you were well covered, market forces be damned. Yet you still side with the ones condemning the "liberals", lol. Talk about biting the hands that feed you.

And what does my trying to get a transit job relate to this entire topic?!?

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 28 13:05:32 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 28 11:12:31 2014.

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Thanks. The gall of the people who criticize liberals while on the public dole just amazes me. True followers of Ayn Rand, I guess...

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 13:06:47 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 28 12:23:38 2014.

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When? Link to a story posyed prior to my comment!

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 28 13:11:08 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 12:38:43 2014.

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Your original post had no discernible points and a link. Total fail.

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Re: Chuck Schemer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 28 13:14:13 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schemer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 28 12:16:46 2014.

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Is it for Hillary? I'm not sure, it just looks like so much transparent grandstanding to me. *sigh*

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 13:17:05 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 28 13:02:33 2014.

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It seems that Jonathan Gruber had you in mind all along. When the employer mandate is finally phased in it will crush the middle class.

Your seeking a job with transit is as relevant to the topic as my contractually earned benefits are.
It seems to me that you are very resentful of the medical benefits that you sought or do you believe that only left leaners should receive benefits that they earn.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 13:18:37 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 28 13:11:08 2014.

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Fail on your part. Life just keep sucking for you

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 13:22:44 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 28 13:05:32 2014.

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How did your attempt to get on the " public dole" work out, john? Do you really think only liberals are entitled to public benefits. Lets kick all conservatives out of Social Security too. Right, John?

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 28 13:31:56 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 13:02:02 2014.

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If you say so, LOL.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 28 13:36:14 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 13:22:44 2014.

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"Lets kick all conservatives out of Social Security too. "

Well, if they really believe it ought to be abolished or privatized, consistency would dictate that should not be able be able to suck on the government teat.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 28 13:37:07 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 13:18:37 2014.

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No, I think life is sucking quite a bit more for you, since you appear to be suffering from senility. Without going back to the first post in the thread, do you remember who made the first post?

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 13:40:18 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Timing of Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 28 13:37:07 2014.

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I certainly do. So why do you think you didn't get that transit job? Over-qualified?

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 28 13:40:29 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 13:06:47 2014.

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You are too easy to mess with.

Since you mentioned ABC News:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/photos/charles-schumer-27175524

This is just the first of dozens I found.

Times had it Tuesday too:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/us/schumer-criticizes-timing-of-affordable-care-act.html?module=Search&mabReward=relbias%3As%2C%7B%221%22%3A%22RI%3A9%22%7D&_r=0

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by 3-9 on Fri Nov 28 13:41:52 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 13:17:05 2014.

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Isn't that nice, you got your benefits from that bastion of liberalism, a UNION.

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Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake

Posted by train dude on Fri Nov 28 13:42:37 2014, in response to Re: Chuck Schumer Says Obamacare Was A Mistake, posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 28 13:36:14 2014.

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First you'd have to bach up your claim that "ALL" Conservatives don't like social security. Do you think that you can do that?

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