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Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 08:35:54 2014 The grand jury testimony was released. There's a good summary here.Wilson's testimony is a massive pile of bullshit that proves beyond any doubt that he should have been indicted, and the only reason he wasn't was because the grand jury believed that murdering black people isn't a crime and/or that cops are above the law and should be allowed to murder with impunity. And if you actually believe Wilson's story, then I have a bridge you might be interested in. |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Nov 26 09:19:14 2014, in response to Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 08:35:54 2014. You prefer the "street" version. Dueling fairy tales. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Nov 26 09:44:38 2014, in response to Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 08:35:54 2014. Even if it was, so long as he keeps to that story while the other witnesses have conflicting ones, his being the officer is that people will trust most. Had the witnesses all be consistent with their testimony and backed up the ballistic evidence it would've been another story altogether. |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Nov 26 11:02:29 2014, in response to Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 08:35:54 2014. And just how long have you hated your own race? |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: Very Believable |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Nov 26 11:03:31 2014, in response to Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 08:35:54 2014. Title corrected. |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: Not unreasonable |
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Posted by R30A on Wed Nov 26 11:15:18 2014, in response to Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 08:35:54 2014. Nothing is particularly odd about his testimony. It is not hard at all to believe that he was in fear for his own life |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: Not unreasonable |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 26 12:13:14 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: Not unreasonable, posted by R30A on Wed Nov 26 11:15:18 2014. But was it a reasonable fear? Guy is a trained peace officer with a gun, at least 35 feet away from another guy he knows is not armed. |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: Not unreasonable |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 26 12:20:10 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: Not unreasonable, posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 26 12:13:14 2014. Were you ever a cop at one time? |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Nov 26 12:48:22 2014, in response to Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 08:35:54 2014. IAWTP |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 26 13:00:09 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by SLRT on Wed Nov 26 09:19:14 2014. That's what extreme leftists love. |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: Not unreasonable |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 26 13:15:58 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: Not unreasonable, posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Nov 26 12:20:10 2014. Were you? |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: Very Credible |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 26 13:27:50 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: Very Believable, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Nov 26 11:03:31 2014. Way more credible than Ezra Klein's worthless website. |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 26 15:44:45 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by SLRT on Wed Nov 26 09:19:14 2014. Huh? This is the street version?Every bullshit detector in me went off when I read that passage. Which doesn't mean that it didn't happen exactly the way Wilson describes. |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 26 15:45:34 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 26 13:00:09 2014. You obviously didn't read the column. You may disagree but it wasn't a "street version." |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 26 15:46:44 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 26 15:45:34 2014. I was responding to the comment...and of course the OP is an extremist....so....when the shoe fits. |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale |
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Posted by train dude on Wed Nov 26 15:59:11 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 26 15:44:45 2014. I must admit that its quite fair of you to give more weight to the word of michael browns friends than the word pf a police officer with an unblemished record. Quite liberal indeed. |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale |
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Posted by train dude on Wed Nov 26 15:59:47 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 26 15:44:45 2014. I must admit that its quite fair of you to give more weight to the word of michael browns friends than the word pf a police officer with an unblemished record. Quite liberal indeed. |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: Not unreasonable |
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Posted by train dude on Wed Nov 26 16:03:31 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: Not unreasonable, posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 26 12:13:14 2014. How did he know that he was "unarmed"? |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 26 16:03:37 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by train dude on Wed Nov 26 15:59:11 2014. Huh?That is not written by a friend of Michael Brown. And it's opinion, not fact. It simply is NOT a street version of events. Read what I wrote. Read the original cited piece before criticizing it. |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 26 16:04:55 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 26 15:46:44 2014. In this case the shoe doesn't fit. The opinion piece Nilet cites is just that. It's most definitely not the street version of what went on. |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale |
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Posted by SLRT on Wed Nov 26 16:07:49 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 26 15:44:45 2014. I didn't write that. What are you responding to? |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 26 16:45:04 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by SLRT on Wed Nov 26 16:07:49 2014. I didn't write that.You wrote this: You prefer the "street" version. Dueling fairy tales. Yet nothing in the opinion piece Nilet cites is based on the "street version." So the most charitable interpretation of your post is that you criticized Nilet just because of his past posts and didn't bother to read what he actually cited. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Wed Nov 26 18:47:26 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Nov 26 11:02:29 2014. And just how long have you hated your own race?Wow - that's what you concluded? You're a special kind of person. |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 26 18:54:57 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Nov 26 11:02:29 2014. And just how long have you hated your own Jewishness? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 00:50:29 2014, in response to Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 08:35:54 2014. Are you a 5 year old? You act like a little child who is having a temper tantrum because you didn't get your way. Stop with your nutjob "theories" and stop making yourself look like a fool with your constant assumptions that this is about race and that white police are the Boogymen and the black people who come in contact with them as poor, persecuted victims. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Nov 27 00:51:23 2014, in response to Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 08:35:54 2014. IAWTP |
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Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: Not unreasonable |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 00:58:22 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: Not unreasonable, posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 26 12:13:14 2014. You don't have to possess a weapon in order for a policeman to fear for his life. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Nov 27 01:24:35 2014, in response to Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Wed Nov 26 08:35:54 2014. Only insofar as who beat up Wilson. I have seen enough evidence that suggests that Dorian Johnson actually is getting away with murder. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 04:56:22 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: Not unreasonable, posted by R30A on Wed Nov 26 11:15:18 2014. So how much would you be willing to pay for the Brooklyn Bridge? I can let it go for $24,000 if you act today! |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 04:58:01 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 00:50:29 2014. Considering that you have openly advocated the murder of black children, you really shouldn't be one to talk. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 06:30:47 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 04:58:01 2014. The kid's race has nothing to do with this. Again, stop trying to make it what it's not. The police got a call from the radio which sent them there. They responded. Kid went for the toy gun, Kid got shot. Do you really think that ANY policeman WANTS to shoot a kid? They don't. This will affect the shooter for a long time. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 08:34:16 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 06:30:47 2014. The kid's race has nothing to do with this. Again, stop trying to make it what it's not.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 08:39:20 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 08:34:16 2014. And this cartoon means? |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 08:42:20 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 08:39:20 2014. Read it. It's not exactly subtle. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 08:54:19 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 08:42:20 2014. I know what the cartoon MEANS.What I want to know is how the cartoon relates to the police responding to a radio call about someone with a gun pointing it at people? |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 08:58:35 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 08:54:19 2014. I know what the cartoon MEANS.You obviously don't. What I want to know is how the cartoon relates to the police responding to a radio call about someone with a gun pointing it at people? See, if you did understand that cartoon, you wouldn't be asking that question. So, pray tell, what do you think it means? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:16:05 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 08:58:35 2014. You see, unlike you, I'll answer you directly without "tapdancing" around your question. The cartoon signifies a certain segment of society, i.e.. "white" people who say that it's not race related every time a black is killed by the police, whether legit (Like MB case and the kids) or under fishy circumstances or out and out wrong (Like the guy in the Pink Houses) yet these same white people bitch and moan when a black is promoted instead of them, and claim it's because they're black and not possibly because the black is more qualified and smarter than the white who got passed over.Now, what do I win? The cartoon is STILL not relivant to a 911 police radio run of a person with a gun who was standing on the sidewalk POINTING it at people though.... |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:33:00 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:16:05 2014. Now, what do I win?Nothing, because you didn't understand the cartoon. It's pointing out the fact that innocent and unarmed black people are killed by the police regularly, in a manner beyond disproportionately, while people like you insist it must have been for any reason other than because they were black. (You know, like when you said the police were justified in shooting Brown and Rice because of the guns they didn't actually have.) |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:39:19 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:33:00 2014. Rice had a gun.And no, MY interpretaion of the cartoon is correct, hence the last scenario in it. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:39:19 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:33:00 2014. Rice had a gun.And no, MY interpretaion of the cartoon is correct, hence the last scenario in it. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:39:19 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:33:00 2014. Rice had a gun.And no, MY interpretaion of the cartoon is correct, hence the last scenario in it. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:43:08 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:39:19 2014. Rice had a gun.Citation very needed. And no, MY interpretaion of the cartoon is correct, hence the last scenario in it. Dunning-Kruger strikes again. Not only do you fail to understand the cartoon, you also fail to understand that it's even possible for you to have made a mistake. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:44:19 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:43:08 2014. Did you see the evidence pics of the pellet gun yet? Look how real it looks.Looks like it is YOU who is mistaken. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:46:04 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:44:19 2014. Ah, so what you're saying is that Rice was not armed. Good. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:47:18 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:46:04 2014. I never said that. A pellet gun is STILL armed. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:48:16 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:47:18 2014. OK, so you're saying he was "armed" with a toy gun and therefore deserved to be shot with a real gun? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:50:13 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:48:16 2014. A pellet gun is not a toy gun. BUT, just to play Devil's Advocate, even if it was a toy gun, especially with the orange tip removed, it's STILL OK for the police to shoot if their orders are not obeyed and he's reaching for it. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:51:43 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:50:13 2014. Who's "reaching" for what?See, there you go again— you compulsively defend the murder of black people, so you just invent things that never happened. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:53:15 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:51:43 2014. Why can't it be people? Why add "black" into it? Yeah... *I* invented it. The news didn't.... |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Nov 27 09:53:15 2014, in response to Re: Wilson's Grand Jury Testimony: An Implausible Fairy Tale, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 27 09:51:43 2014. Why can't it be people? Why add "black" into it? Yeah... *I* invented it. The news didn't.... |
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