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Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 22 09:05:32 2014 Here. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 09:20:24 2014, in response to Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 22 09:05:32 2014. They are in error. Obama doesn't have the power to offer amnesty, and he isn't offering it to anyone. He is offering a temporary respite from deportation, just like all previous presidents have done unofficially.Even his more questionable work permit program doesn't give amnesty to a single non-resident alien. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 22 09:29:42 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 09:20:24 2014. If it looks like a duck, walks like duck, talks like a duck. It's a duck. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 09:33:08 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 22 09:29:42 2014. It doesn't look like a duck. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 22 09:34:15 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 09:33:08 2014. NO it doesn't. It looks and is amnesty. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 09:40:46 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 22 09:34:15 2014. Ah, so when Ted Cruz gets elected president, he can't order any of them deported? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 22 09:51:55 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 09:40:46 2014. It is the law isn't it? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 10:06:36 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 09:20:24 2014. But it will cost the American taxpayer how much? Once these people get their social security number, they will begin to pay into social security. However, since they presumably will be at the low end of the wage scale, they will likely not pay income taxes but will qualify for the "Earned Income Credit", food stamps, Medicaid, obamacare and a host of benefits that will come from your taxes (which, by the way. will likely be raised to pay for all of these new semi-citizens. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 22 10:19:17 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 10:06:36 2014. iawtlp |
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Posted by Allan on Sat Nov 22 11:08:30 2014, in response to Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 22 09:05:32 2014. Fascinating.And this is just a thought (not trying to be racist or anything)- could it be that a majority of the 5 million illegals are not black, and if they were given "amnesty" as it is so called, or just allowed to work to obtain citizenship, that they would create a large enough voting block that would support an agenda or elect candidates that might not be favorable to the black community. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 15:02:31 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 10:06:36 2014. I didn't hear anything saying that these folks would be eligible for the earned income credit. I very much doubt Obama has the authority to allow that. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 21:06:59 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 15:02:31 2014. They will not be so eligible. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 21:07:52 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 22 09:51:55 2014. No. Any executive order can be reversed by the next Prez. |
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Token Black Conservatives Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 21:09:38 2014, in response to Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 22 09:05:32 2014. Corrected title. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 21:11:49 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 15:02:31 2014. Cherry picking? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 21:16:04 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 21:06:59 2014. Are you sure? Experts think otherwise. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 21:19:36 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 21:11:49 2014. It would be cherry picking if they were eligible for Medicaid, ACA subsidies, or other benefits. My understanding is that the 5 million aren't eligible for any of those. If I am wrong, I am sure you have evidence to sow me. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 21:21:41 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 21:19:36 2014. I'd rather SHOW it to you |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 22 21:23:27 2014, in response to Token Black Conservatives Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 21:09:38 2014. Thanks for admitting you're a racist. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 21:26:46 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 21:16:04 2014. Obama’s order won’t extend Obamacare to undocumented immigrantsLike Senate Bill, No Obamacare In President's Immigration Order The immigrants covered by Mr. Obama’s actions are also unlikely to receive public benefits like food stamps, Medicaid coverage or other need-based federal programs offered to citizens and some legal residents. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 21:29:07 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 21:21:41 2014. Looks like Forbes disagrees with itself. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 21:31:47 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 21:29:07 2014. I thought we were discussing Earned Income Credit. DO you want to finish one before we move on? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 21:34:24 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 21:26:46 2014. And here I thought that I was responding to this comment you made. I guess I was wrong and you said let's move on. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 21:49:31 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 21:31:47 2014. The article you cite does not say the 5 million will be eligible for the earned income credit. Other articles say they won't. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Nov 23 00:01:18 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 10:06:36 2014. Why do you figure they'll be at the low end of the wage scale?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Nov 23 00:02:29 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 10:06:36 2014. I think those people will collectively pay more into the system than they take out of it. I think they should just open the damn border.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Nov 23 00:06:05 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by Fred G on Sun Nov 23 00:02:29 2014. IAWTP |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Nov 23 08:37:41 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by Fred G on Sun Nov 23 00:02:29 2014. I think they should just open the damn border.The US can't handle 200 million immigrants. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Nov 23 09:36:52 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by Fred G on Sun Nov 23 00:01:18 2014. A majority of unauthorized immigrants are struggling financially. Nearly a third live in poverty, and nearly two-thirds earn less than twice the federal poverty line. |
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Posted by train dude on Sun Nov 23 12:42:08 2014, in response to Re: Black Activists Speak Out Against obama's Amnesty Agenda, posted by Fred G on Sun Nov 23 00:02:29 2014. Based on what? |
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