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Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 19:37:59 2014 A two-year investigation by the Republican-controlled House Intelligence Committee has found that the CIA and the military acted properly in responding to the 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, and asserted no wrongdoing by Obama administration appointees.Link |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Nov 21 19:46:56 2014, in response to Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 19:37:59 2014. Olog and the other conservatives will quickly claim that these "RINOs" so be prepared for a very dismissive response by people who ignore facts constantly and twist the truth. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 21 19:54:51 2014, in response to Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 19:37:59 2014. didn't she says something stupid like "Big deal" about that situation? |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 20:04:05 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 21 19:54:51 2014. She certainly said stupid things. Everybody does. But if the Republicans can't pin any wrong actions on her it's over as an issue. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 20:05:45 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Nov 21 19:46:56 2014. Of course they're RINOs. By definition. They exonerated her. :)But any opponent who says "Benghazi" will be laughed off now. |
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Posted by rkba on Fri Nov 21 20:09:31 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 20:05:45 2014. the cronies have spoken. nothing to see here. no big deal. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 21 20:12:44 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue, posted by rkba on Fri Nov 21 20:09:31 2014. the cronies have spoken.Republican-led House Intelligence Committee's report. cronies. nothing to see here. no big deal. Toldja that 2 years ago. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 21 20:14:16 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 20:04:05 2014. Obamacare and immigration fuel the GOP. Not Benghazi. |
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Posted by rkba on Fri Nov 21 20:14:31 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue, posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 21 20:12:44 2014. D, R, cry me a river. have another scotch on me. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 20:23:51 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 21 20:14:16 2014. The Obamacare issue was pretty muted in the 2014 campaign. A lot of beneficiaries of Obamacare in the South vote Republican.Immigration is going to be a hard issue for them too. By 2016 it'll have blown over. All Obama did was officially say what Bush II was already practicing. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 21 20:26:16 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 20:23:51 2014. The Obamacare issue was pretty muted in the 2014 campaign. A lot of beneficiaries of Obamacare in the South vote Republican.Muted? LOL. It was a big deal and in most races the GOP candidate ran ads about Obamacare. NY may be different because it's not really the US but in AMerica it wasn't muted. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 21 21:45:19 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 21 19:54:51 2014. She said "what difference at this point does it make", as if it is not important to defend US diplomats—which is a signal to our enemies that killing a US diplomat will result in no reprisal. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 21 21:48:59 2014, in response to Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 19:37:59 2014. As usual, you quote the wrong thing.And Chris Stevens is unavenged, making the USA look very weak. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 21 22:16:33 2014, in response to Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 19:37:59 2014. From the story:Debunking a series of persistent allegations hinting at dark conspiracies, the investigation of the politically charged incident determined that there was no intelligence failure, no delay in sending a CIA rescue team, no missed opportunity for a military rescue, and no evidence the CIA was covertly shipping arms from Libya to Syria. In the immediate aftermath of the attack, intelligence about who carried it out and why was contradictory, the report found. That led Susan Rice, then U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, to inaccurately assert that the attack had evolved from a protest, when in fact there had been no protest. But it was intelligence analysts, not political appointees, who made the wrong call, the committee found. The report did not conclude that Rice or any other government official acted in bad faith or intentionally misled the American people. The House Intelligence Committee report was released with little fanfare on the Friday before Thanksgiving week. Many of its findings echo those of six previous investigations by various congressional committees and a State Department panel. The eighth Benghazi investigation is being carried out by a House Select Committee appointed in May. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 21 22:16:58 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 21 21:48:59 2014. Is that all you got? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 21 22:19:00 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 21 20:26:16 2014. To the contrary, places like Arkansas are not really the US. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Sat Nov 22 10:02:27 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 21 20:26:16 2014. AlM or AiM or A1M dispensed with the myths of Benghazi and Obamacare and immigration reform once and for all in exactly 2 posts which may be a record for the ages. Remarkable. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 10:14:24 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 21 21:48:59 2014. This comment will haunt her and cost her the election should she have the temerity to even attempt to run in 2016. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 13:32:14 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 10:14:24 2014. Nonsense. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 22 17:03:39 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 10:14:24 2014. Hahaha, nope.Toldja there was no scandal here. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sat Nov 22 17:12:35 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 21 21:48:59 2014. Weak, strong!!! sounds like fascist bullshit to me. if the US doesn't root out the Nazi Reagan and pig worship, the civilized world will isolate and contain it along with Russia,. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 17:19:25 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 10:14:24 2014. With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they'd they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Nov 22 17:31:41 2014, in response to the Nazis had better Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Nov 22 17:12:35 2014. Please stop insulting the names of all of my relatives who died as a result of real Nazis by calling anyone you disagree with a Nazi. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 22 18:09:21 2014, in response to the Nazis had better Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Nov 22 17:12:35 2014. Weak, strong!!! sounds like fascist bullshit to meOnly to pussies, rocKKKparKKKnazi. You're not going to talk Chris Stevens' killers and killers-in-waiting down off respecting only strength. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 18:59:41 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 17:19:25 2014. Thank you for contextualizing. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 19:10:35 2014, in response to Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue, posted by AlM on Fri Nov 21 19:37:59 2014. The only major news media outlet that did not report the House Committee's Benghazi debunking yesterday was . . wait for it . . Fox News. |
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Posted by train dude on Sat Nov 22 19:25:43 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 13:32:14 2014. Which chimp are you,Hear no evil See no evil or Speak no evil? |
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Posted by train dude on Sat Nov 22 19:27:56 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 18:59:41 2014. Oh? I thought it was nonsense. |
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Posted by train dude on Sat Nov 22 19:44:38 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 22 17:03:39 2014. I guess you were correct after all. It certainly doesn't matter that the American people were deliberately mislead by Susan Rice when she said that Chris Stevens was killed because of Islamic anger over a video? I mean its already been proven that she lied deliberately but why would liberals care about their party telling little white lies to them |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Nov 22 20:37:24 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 21 21:48:59 2014. How long did it take to get Osama for 9/11 Olog?Keep your mouth shut. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 20:42:50 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Nov 22 20:37:24 2014. The 1983 Beirut Barracks bombing, 60 times as deadly as Benghazi, is still unavenged. And the US did exactly what the bombers wanted, which was withdraw from Lebanon. :( |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Nov 22 20:45:46 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 20:42:50 2014. plus Reagan played golf the next day... |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 20:47:40 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by train dude on Sat Nov 22 19:25:43 2014. Right. Just Like Obama's first campaign was doomed when the quotes from that minister of his (does anyone even remember his name?) were discovered. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 20:48:32 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by train dude on Sat Nov 22 19:44:38 2014. No such thing was proven. She was working off the intelligence available at the time. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 20:48:49 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 20:42:50 2014. "Alleged retaliation[edit]Main article: 1985 Beirut car bombing On March 8, 1985, a truck bomb blew up in Beirut killing more than 80 people and injuring more than two hundred. The bomb detonated near the apartment block of Sheikh Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah, a Shia cleric thought by many to be the spiritual leader of Hezbollah. Although the U.S. did not engage in any direct military retaliation to the attack on the Beirut barracks, the 1985 bombing was widely believed by Fadlallah and his supporters to be the work of the United States; Sheikh Fadlallah stating that "'They sent me a letter and I got the message,' and an enormous sign on the remains of one bombed building read: 'Made in the U.S.A.'" Robert Fisk also claims that CIA operatives planted the bomb and that evidence of this is found in an article in The Washington Post newspaper.[127] Journalist Robin Wright quotes articles in The Washington Post and The New York Times as saying that according to the CIA the "Lebanese intelligence personnel and other foreigners had been undergoing CIA training"[128] but that "this was not our [CIA] operation and it was nothing we planned or knew about."[129] "Alarmed U.S. officials subsequently canceled the covert training operation" in Lebanon, according to Wright" Source Wikipedia Of course these are the same Iranians who barach zerobama is trying to negotiate a treaty with after lifting several crippling economic sanctions. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 20:49:43 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 20:47:40 2014. Question repeated:Which chimp are you, Hear no evil See no evil or Speak no evil? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 20:51:17 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 20:48:32 2014. You know that was bullshit. The CIA had already told zerobama that this was no angry mob because of an anti-Islamic video. Even you should realize that protesters don't carry RPGs |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 20:53:24 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 20:48:49 2014. "alleged" indeed."according to the CIA . . . "this was not our [CIA] operation and it was nothing we planned or knew about."" |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 20:54:26 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 20:49:43 2014. Repeating yourself again? You really need to get that Alzheimer's screening. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 20:55:08 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 20:53:24 2014. It was avenged. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 20:55:47 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 20:54:26 2014. Dr. Calhoun, I presume? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 20:56:05 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 20:51:17 2014. As Shakespeare said, you have "not so much brain as ear-wax." |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 20:56:40 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 20:55:08 2014. Funny no one else seems to think so. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 20:57:19 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 20:55:47 2014. I do have a Juris Doctor degree. :-) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 20:57:45 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 20:56:05 2014. So when unable to back up your argument with fact, you resort to personal attack. Thank you for the white flag, Dr. Calhoun. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 20:58:15 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 20:57:19 2014. So did he :( |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 20:58:50 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 20:57:45 2014. CIA said no such thing. Got proof? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 20:59:29 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 20:51:17 2014. In particular, the Republicans have said that Susan E. Rice, who was the ambassador to the United Nations at the time, lied on several Sunday television talk shows when she said the attacks were set off by a protest over an anti-Muslim video. They claimed that she glossed over whether the fatalities were the result of “terrorist” attacks by Al Qaeda because that would have undermined the administration’s narrative that it had all but defeated the group.The panel found that in the days after the attacks, there was contradictory intelligence about what precipitated them and who was behind them. Ultimately, Ms. Rice’s assertions were wrong, the committee said, but there was no evidence that the administration was attempting to misconstrue the facts. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 21:00:57 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 22 20:59:29 2014. Also, from the AP story:Some of the harshest charges have been leveled at Rice, now Obama's national security adviser, who represented the Obama administration on Sunday talk shows the weekend after the attack. Rice repeated talking points that wrongly described a protest over a video deemed offensive to Muslims. But Rice's comments were based on faulty intelligence from multiple agencies, according to the report. Analysts received 21 reports that a protest occurred in Benghazi, the report said —14 from the Open Source Center, which reviews news reports; one from the CIA; two from the Defense Department; and four from the National Security Agency. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 22 21:01:31 2014, in response to Re: Forget Benghazi as a Hillary issue?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 22 20:57:45 2014. AP story linked in OP:Some of the harshest charges have been leveled at Rice, now Obama's national security adviser, who represented the Obama administration on Sunday talk shows the weekend after the attack. Rice repeated talking points that wrongly described a protest over a video deemed offensive to Muslims. But Rice's comments were based on faulty intelligence from multiple agencies, according to the report. Analysts received 21 reports that a protest occurred in Benghazi, the report said —14 from the Open Source Center, which reviews news reports; one from the CIA; two from the Defense Department; and four from the National Security Agency. |
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