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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 1 01:06:02 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Nilet on Fri Oct 31 08:31:32 2014.

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The whole concept ... I'm willing to vote democrat every now and then, I'm even willing to vote republican if they're sane. Now the dems have shown that they're no better than the Olog party. This is serious.

So since Working Families has endorsed the democratic slate, we're trying to decide whether to vote for Greens or Sapient because the Lippertarians can fuck off too. :(

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Nov 1 01:34:49 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 1 00:55:50 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Sounds like his doing strong arm tactics. He lost my vote a long time ago. When I used to work with the NY state. He bullied the union CSEA by threatening to fire a percentage of the work force unless we took his crappy contract. Made us go on furlough too. No negotiations no anything. He bullied and our weak union folded like a cheap tent. So this being his idea is no surprise. He is the most republican democrat I ever encountered.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Nov 1 01:35:41 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Nov 1 01:34:49 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He treats his state workers like crap

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 1 01:40:02 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Nov 1 01:34:49 2014.

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Precisely ... btw, former PEF here. Put in 12 years, had enough of Simon Says, started a software company and never looked back. That was back in the days of the Paturkey Farm. If I was still doing that when this moron came along, I would have just dived down an elevator shaft and sued. :)

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 1 01:40:47 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Nov 1 01:35:41 2014.

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Precisely why he's in for a BIG surprise upstate next Tuesday. Sure hope he can make Long Island happy at this point. :)

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 1 04:57:49 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 1 00:34:30 2014.

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I'm enrolled Democratic and didn't get the letter. That doesn't mean Cuomo is getting my vote, though.


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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Nilet on Sat Nov 1 05:55:11 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 1 00:30:45 2014.

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And if a third party cross-endorses, I'll vote for anyone NOT on the democrat ticket or leave that entry empty.

Write-in.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Nov 1 06:43:40 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 1 00:30:45 2014.

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Yeah.....what I have been saying forever too.....both parties suck. I really don't like politicians.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Nov 1 06:49:36 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Nov 1 01:34:49 2014.

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Good good....even terrible democrats are "the republicans fault".

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Nov 1 06:49:55 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Nov 1 01:34:49 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Good god....even terrible democrats are "the republicans fault".

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 08:40:17 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 31 08:45:39 2014.

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Al, you will defend to the death it seems. Even Selkirk called it out for what it is. It's downright creepy, not just vaguely menacing

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 08:43:35 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Oct 31 10:58:41 2014.

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It's no one's business. It's no more anyone's business than who someone votes for.
It's a personal decision not to vote, jut as it's a personal decision to vote or not vote for a particular candidate.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 08:46:36 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 31 12:33:47 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Saying they noticed you didn't vote is implying they watched that you didn't vote.
It's none of their business, and downright creepy.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Nov 1 08:53:38 2014, in response to New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 31 04:14:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You found them "threatning?" I got one too and I found it informative, I was surprised I voted that often.

Grow a spine, stop being a wuss.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 08:56:11 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 31 11:31:17 2014.

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Not voting is a personal decision. There are plenty of Democrats that are disheartened with the current group in office, and while they do not feel any wanting to vote for the Democrats this time around, they also wouldn't vote for a Republican, so they stay home (the same can happen if you exchange Democrat/Republican).
But the point is, it's none of their business, and prodding people that are already pissed off just makes it even worse, as they have done. If you give people a reason to come out and vote for you, they will. If you don't, don't prod them and harass them, as they are already pissed off.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 08:59:36 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Nov 1 08:53:38 2014.

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It's downright creepy. It's none of their business.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 1 09:04:40 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 08:40:17 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The plain words themselves are neutral. You're entitled to your interpretation and I'm entitled to mine as to the meaning. I'm not defending - I do agree they were out of their minds to write what they wrote.

As I said, I wasn't voting for Cuomo anyway.


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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 1 09:05:54 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 08:59:36 2014.

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It is their business to try to find out why people didn't vote. They just ought to do it in an acceptable manner.



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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 09:07:36 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 1 09:04:40 2014.

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Plain words can be neutral in a variety of situations. Doesn't make them less outrageous or creepy.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 09:08:17 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 1 09:05:54 2014.

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It's downright harassing people.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Nov 1 09:18:53 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 08:59:36 2014.

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You have a low threshold for creepy then. I looked at it, shrugged, and threw it in thr trash. Now bitch or whine or say retarded things like you and edward have. Man up!

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 1 09:46:15 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by ClearAspect on Sat Nov 1 09:18:53 2014.

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Really. These RWers get so emotional. Can't read bullshit for what it is. That's why they fall for the propaganda time and again.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 09:51:55 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 1 09:46:15 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I am not a RWer, and your own husband admitted it was creepy.
And what propaganda? The piece WAS sent out, and the person who reported it here is a known left leaning person who hates the Republicans, and even he was creeped out by it.
No propaganda here.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 1 10:38:33 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 09:51:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I'm not him. I thought is was laughable. As to where you stand, you may not think you're a RWer, but everything you say here reveals otherwise.

Voting for asteroid? He's ani-women. Doesn't believe in a living wage. Will cutout necessary roadwork, bridges and infrastructure repair. That makes NY less of an attractive place for business. It's not just about tax rates.

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"We bought you...not a website"

Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 1 10:49:33 2014, in response to New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Edwards! on Fri Oct 31 04:14:55 2014.

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I a different but far moreintrusive place come the republicans.....

Don't kid yourselves, THIS is intrusive.


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Re: ''We bought you...not a website''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 10:57:42 2014, in response to "We bought you...not a website", posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 1 10:49:33 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That is not "far more intrusive". It's just an annoying pop up ad (like any other annoying pop up ad for products or services that come up). It's using new technology (something "the left" is usually for, but of course not when it's "the Republicans", who you claim are living in the stone ages usually).

In any event, it's NOT "far more intrusive" as they are just random ads that come up like any other random ad.....not using your personal voting record.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 11:01:24 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 1 10:38:33 2014.

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No, not voting this election, as I won't be around that day to be able to. Last time I voted for Cuomo, FWIW.

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Re: ''We bought you...not a website''

Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 1 11:17:19 2014, in response to Re: ''We bought you...not a website'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 10:57:42 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The marketing and i formation gathering certainly is. The mailer was bait for the gullible, an old old tactic in campaigns.

Gathering information about personal habits is not. I's "big brother" stuff. Let's get real.

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Re: ''We bought you...not a website''

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 11:26:36 2014, in response to Re: ''We bought you...not a website'', posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 1 11:17:19 2014.

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Yes, let's get real. You just can't bring yourself to ever talk bad about a Democrat or anything they do.

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Re: ''We bought you...not a website''

Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 1 11:45:26 2014, in response to Re: ''We bought you...not a website'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 11:26:36 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Wrong. When a Democratic party member does actual harm, they get called out.

My issues are bigger picture. Platforms. Legislation. Policy. The RW loses on that.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 1 12:18:36 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 1 04:57:49 2014.

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Folks around here got it too.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 1 12:25:15 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Nilet on Sat Nov 1 05:55:11 2014.

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I'll probably go with the most protesty I can find. Pity McMillan didn't make the ballot this year. That'd be an easy one. :)

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 1 12:26:31 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Nov 1 06:43:40 2014.

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We REALLY need a viable third party sufficient to provide shock treatment to the other two. :(

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 1 12:27:00 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Nov 1 06:49:36 2014.

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That part's true. Democrats trying to be republicans is no way to run a circus.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Nov 1 13:37:24 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 1 12:26:31 2014.

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There we totally agree!!!! :)

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 1 14:10:56 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Nov 1 01:34:49 2014.

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He is the most republican democrat I ever encountered

LOL! No, he's the most Democratic Democrat. He's just one of the ones who thinks he no longer has to lie about their agenda.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 1 14:12:15 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Nov 1 06:49:36 2014.

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They can't tell right from left, some of these left-wingnuts. I didn't expect FtGreeneG to go all Nilet on us, but now he has, all I can do is laugh sadly.

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Re: ''We bought you…not a website''?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 1 14:14:03 2014, in response to Re: ''We bought you...not a website'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 10:57:42 2014.

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How many people lacking pop-up blockers did they have to interview for that non-story?

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 1 15:34:52 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by AlM on Fri Oct 31 09:13:20 2014.

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The literal words are appropriate? Where, in Moscow? I thought the voting booth was supposed to be private.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 1 15:44:03 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 1 09:46:15 2014.

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Edwards is a right winger?

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 1 15:51:53 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee…? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 1 14:12:15 2014.

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LOL!! He basically called Cuomo a DINO and I dunno what you're spouting about.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 1 16:04:34 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 1 15:34:52 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The voting booth is private but the fact of whether or not you voted is not private. Sorry, that's the law at the moment.


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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 1 16:07:50 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 1 16:04:34 2014.

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"we are monitoring/reviewing your voting record,don't like the way you vote so we are going to keep watch..."

The underlined portion is what I was referring to. I'm sorry that this was not clear to you.

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 1 16:14:53 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by gp38/r42 CHRIS on Sat Nov 1 06:49:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Who said that anything was the Republicans' fault?

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 1 16:15:47 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 1 16:07:50 2014.

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The underlined portion is what I was referring to. I'm sorry that this was not clear to you.

I was referring to the letter as reported by the news media, not Edwards' version.

Edwards' version would be a form of threat, but there is no reason whatsoever to believe that the actual letter contained those words. If you want to believe Edwards rather than the NY Post, feel free. I believe the NY Post.

Here's what the Post reports the letter said. I interpret this as moronic, unwise, and easily perceived as threatening, but there's actually nothing literally improper in the letter.





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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 16:17:10 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 1 16:14:53 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
A bad Democrat was described as "acting like a Republican". No, he was acting like a bad Democrat. That was the point. When a Democrat acts badly, it's compared to "the Republicans".

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 16:18:41 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 1 16:15:47 2014.

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No one said it was "literately improper". But it was incredibly creepy as has been pointed out, and yes, threatening in the sense that "they are watching you if you "don't do the right thing"

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 1 16:28:27 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 1 16:18:41 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The "they are watching you" is not in the letter, according to the NY Post. It's only in Edwards' rant.

Anyway, I don't object to your characterization that it comes off as creepy. Whoever wrote that letter didn't do the Democratic Party any favors.

No one said it was "literately improper".

Well, Olog did ask me if I was out of my skull for saying that the literal words contain no threat.



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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 1 16:56:44 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 1 16:14:53 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He was acting like a Republican with regard to his tactics against the Union. There's no fault being pushed here.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 1 17:20:53 2014, in response to Re: New York State Democratic Committee..? what's up with those freakin' threatening mailers?, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Nov 1 13:37:24 2014.

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I voted for John Anderson in 1980. I voted for Ross Perot in 1992 (was it? Don't want to look) and voted for Jimmy McMillan for gov last time around. Been doing my part, but need more willing to do so. I love it when people think just because the republicans suck, I must be a dem. Lulz

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